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Thread started 07/30/07 10:25am

LittleSmedley

Which Beatle Era do you prefer - Hamburg Punks, Cheeky Moptops, cool as fuck Mods, or Psychedelic Freaks?

I like all the Beatles eras for diff reasons, but i'm gonna go for:





when they went fucking weird
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Reply #1 posted 07/30/07 10:27am

Empress

I'm a big fan all the way around. I don't think I could pick an era that I liked more than another. I enjoy all their music.
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Reply #2 posted 07/30/07 10:38am

Anxiety

somewhere in between mod hipster and psychedelic freaks...when they were still silly and irreverent, but when they started hoisting the freak flag.
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Reply #3 posted 07/30/07 10:51am

LittleSmedley

Anxiety said:

somewhere in between mod hipster and psychedelic freaks...when they were still silly and irreverent, but when they started hoisting the freak flag.


nicely put nod

there's at least four other eras if we're being picky, i've got a fondness for "bitter imperial hippy end phase" Beatles. I think my least favourite would be...well..."Help" Beatles.
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Reply #4 posted 07/30/07 10:53am

Anxiety

LittleSmedley said:

Anxiety said:

somewhere in between mod hipster and psychedelic freaks...when they were still silly and irreverent, but when they started hoisting the freak flag.


nicely put nod

there's at least four other eras if we're being picky, i've got a fondness for "bitter imperial hippy end phase" Beatles. I think my least favourite would be...well..."Help" Beatles.


i'm not crazy about the dirty grumpy hippie phase, but i do like the white album, abbey road and (kinda) let it be...i just think they all looked fug.
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/07 10:56am

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I'd have to say circa The White Album.
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Reply #6 posted 07/30/07 10:56am

LittleSmedley

Anxiety said:

LittleSmedley said:



nicely put nod

there's at least four other eras if we're being picky, i've got a fondness for "bitter imperial hippy end phase" Beatles. I think my least favourite would be...well..."Help" Beatles.


i'm not crazy about the dirty grumpy hippie phase, but i do like the white album, abbey road and (kinda) let it be...i just think they all looked fug.


i'd accuse you of being beard-ist, but u've aquitted yourself many a time with your posts on BeardSexy era Prince.
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Reply #7 posted 07/30/07 11:02am

Anxiety

LittleSmedley said:

Anxiety said:



i'm not crazy about the dirty grumpy hippie phase, but i do like the white album, abbey road and (kinda) let it be...i just think they all looked fug.


i'd accuse you of being beard-ist, but u've aquitted yourself many a time with your posts on BeardSexy era Prince.


it wasn't just the beards...it was the stringy hair, the dumpy suits. i know that whole natural/dirty armpits look was "in" at the time, but good grief.
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Reply #8 posted 07/30/07 11:05am

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I think I like the last period (beginning with The White Album, which comes after Psychedelic Freaks, in my mind. I'd call it Soulful Classic Rockers) the best, which is really unfortunate because it means they still had a lot of great stuff in them, which became diluted in their solo work.

As great as I think All Things Must Pass & Platic Ono Band are, I don't think they're as good as Beatle albums. Close, but not quite as well rounded musically.

The later albums, though I like their style best, are marred by the feelings that caused the coming breakup. I just dig the sound, the fairly modern sounding rock with a soulful edge & better production. Plus the songs were still top notch.

But for pure unspoiled genius & magic, I'd have to go with middle period--Rubber Soul-Magical Mystery Tour
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/07 11:52am

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The middle two. biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 07/30/07 12:07pm

Miles

For me - Most of it from 'Rubber Soul' to the end, really.

I'm not mad on some of the 'White Album' tracks, and a couple of the lesser tracks on 'Magical Mystery Tour', but I like 'Let It Be' quite a lot, due to its overall loose, fun feel.

'Abbey Road' and 'Sgt Pepper' are probably my faves. Put 'Strawberry Fields Forever', 'Penny Lane' and maybe 'I Am the Walrus' onto Pepper (the first two tracks were recorded at the start of the Pepper sessions anyway), and imo you've got one of the best psychedelic pop albums of all time.

I'm also fond of certain earlier Beatles tracks like 'I Saw Her Standing There' and 'I'll Follow the Sun' smile.

To be mildly controversial, I also like the first '90s 'comeback' single, 'Free As a Bird'. A nice effort, given the circumstances, and oddly sounding like a possible next step after 'Abbey Road' (as well as quite like ELO of course, due to Jeff Lynne's involvement as producer; but it's good even so wink ). The second '90s song, 'Real Love', is weaker, but has some lovely slide guitar from Mr G. Harrison.
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Reply #11 posted 07/30/07 12:10pm

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Miles said:



'Abbey Road' and 'Sgt Pepper' are probably my faves. Put 'Strawberry Fields Forever', 'Penny Lane' and maybe 'I Am the Walrus' onto Pepper (the first two tracks were recorded at the start of the Pepper sessions anyway), and imo you've got one of the best psychedelic pop albums of all time.


That's the crazy thing. Strawberry Fields & Penny Lane are really Sgt. Pepper songs, timewise. Imagine how amazing that album could have been with its lead singles still on it!
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Reply #12 posted 07/30/07 1:00pm

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Psychedelic freaks, please. smile
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Reply #13 posted 07/30/07 1:25pm

Miles

NDRU said:

Miles said:



'Abbey Road' and 'Sgt Pepper' are probably my faves. Put 'Strawberry Fields Forever', 'Penny Lane' and maybe 'I Am the Walrus' onto Pepper (the first two tracks were recorded at the start of the Pepper sessions anyway), and imo you've got one of the best psychedelic pop albums of all time.


That's the crazy thing. Strawberry Fields & Penny Lane are really Sgt. Pepper songs, timewise. Imagine how amazing that album could have been with its lead singles still on it!


Exactly, (though I'm not sure where I'd place them on a revised 'Sgt Pepper' tracklist. smile)

I find it almost incomprehensible why it is that all the Beatles albums haven't been remastered, with all the relevant singles, B sides and other oddments of interest like cool alternate versions/ takes etc from the 'Anthology' sets, with nice sleevenotes and extra photos, artwork etc.

If I were in change, I would even consider giving them a new, respectful, stereo remix, as sacreligious as that may sound to George Martin's original mixes, which imo now often sound wierd, and lack 'ummph', especially on headphones. Last year's awesome sounding 'Love' album mixes opened my eyes to how great the Beatles catalogue could sound, were modern mixing an mastering technology to be applied - respectfully and sensibly, purely to improve the sound quality and add more punch and/or definition where needed.

Maybe they could even release decent priced 2 CD sets, with one CD the mono/ G.Martin original stereo mix and the other CD the new stereo mix.

But, like the idea of Prince '80s remaster albums with loads of bonus tracks, these ideas are too great to likely see the light of day, in this topsy-turvy, contrary world we live in. neutral
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Reply #14 posted 07/30/07 2:31pm

NDRU

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Miles said:

NDRU said:



That's the crazy thing. Strawberry Fields & Penny Lane are really Sgt. Pepper songs, timewise. Imagine how amazing that album could have been with its lead singles still on it!


Exactly, (though I'm not sure where I'd place them on a revised 'Sgt Pepper' tracklist. smile)



hmmm Maybe SFF after Mr Kite and Penny Lane after When I'm 64?

The remasters have to happen someday. But I guess they figure, why fix what ain't broke, as the Beatles records are sacred and continue to sell well. I'd love to hear them get remixed & remastered to where I could hear the bass & drums on the early discs, and maybe give them a decent stereo panning.
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Reply #15 posted 07/30/07 2:32pm

Scooter

Miles said:

NDRU said:



That's the crazy thing. Strawberry Fields & Penny Lane are really Sgt. Pepper songs, timewise. Imagine how amazing that album could have been with its lead singles still on it!


Exactly, (though I'm not sure where I'd place them on a revised 'Sgt Pepper' tracklist. smile)

I find it almost incomprehensible why it is that all the Beatles albums haven't been remastered, with all the relevant singles, B sides and other oddments of interest like cool alternate versions/ takes etc from the 'Anthology' sets, with nice sleevenotes and extra photos, artwork etc.

If I were in change, I would even consider giving them a new, respectful, stereo remix, as sacreligious as that may sound to George Martin's original mixes, which imo now often sound wierd, and lack 'ummph', especially on headphones. Last year's awesome sounding 'Love' album mixes opened my eyes to how great the Beatles catalogue could sound, were modern mixing an mastering technology to be applied - respectfully and sensibly, purely to improve the sound quality and add more punch and/or definition where needed.

Maybe they could even release decent priced 2 CD sets, with one CD the mono/ G.Martin original stereo mix and the other CD the new stereo mix.

But, like the idea of Prince '80s remaster albums with loads of bonus tracks, these ideas are too great to likely see the light of day, in this topsy-turvy, contrary world we live in. neutral


The Beatles back catalogue won't be remastered until the originals have stopped selling well. Wait another 20 years!!!! biggrin
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Reply #16 posted 07/30/07 2:36pm

emilio319

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I also dug their hippie look....but really they're the freakin' Beatles, they were cool during all their phases.
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Reply #17 posted 07/30/07 2:40pm

NDRU

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emilio319 said:

they were cool during all their phases. [/color] worship


they were basically setting the bar at whatever they did
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Reply #18 posted 07/30/07 2:41pm

waw2002

Anxiety said:

LittleSmedley said:



nicely put nod

there's at least four other eras if we're being picky, i've got a fondness for "bitter imperial hippy end phase" Beatles. I think my least favourite would be...well..."Help" Beatles.


i'm not crazy about the dirty grumpy hippie phase, but i do like the white album, abbey road and (kinda) let it be...i just think they all looked fug.


I love the hippie phase. The Abbey Road album cover wouldn't have looked right if they were clean cut.
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Reply #19 posted 07/30/07 8:35pm

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Love all eras... BUT the Rubber Soul era is the one that does it for me - I feel they were just growing immensely as song-writers heart
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Reply #20 posted 07/30/07 8:39pm

Sdldawn

The thing that got me about this group is.. how fast the era's changed.. usually it takes years to go through those.. they happen to go through 4 or 5 "stages" in a period of 5-6 years.. and their music reflected their fresh personality traits.. I personally prefer their experimental stage. White album is still pure at heart with me.. I love just about everything, Rubber soul is perfect. The strong arm of music that came through their career still blows my mind. Most of their music sounds like it will never fade with time..
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Reply #21 posted 07/30/07 8:45pm

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Sdldawn said:

The thing that got me about this group is.. how fast the era's changed.. usually it takes years to go through those.. they happen to go through 4 or 5 "stages" in a period of 5-6 years.. and their music reflected their fresh personality traits.. I personally prefer their experimental stage. White album is still pure at heart with me.. I love just about everything, Rubber soul is perfect. The strong arm of music that came through their career still blows my mind. Most of their music sounds like it will never fade with time..


Co-Sign! biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 07/30/07 9:22pm

GangstaFam

I love the early songs cuz it's what I was raised on.

But the Rubber Soul/Revolver era is where it's at.
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Reply #23 posted 07/30/07 10:54pm

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Anxiety said:

somewhere in between mod hipster and psychedelic freaks...when they were still silly and irreverent, but when they started hoisting the freak flag.

I totally agree. I love the psychedelic stuff, but it is a tad more interesting coming from yet relatively demure English lads rather than full-on dashiki-wearing hairniks types.
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Reply #24 posted 07/30/07 11:11pm

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psychadelic freaks... and later rock gods (abbey road, white album, let it be)
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Reply #25 posted 07/31/07 12:21pm

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Sdldawn said:

The thing that got me about this group is.. how fast the era's changed.. usually it takes years to go through those.. they happen to go through 4 or 5 "stages" in a period of 5-6 years.. and their music reflected their fresh personality traits.. I personally prefer their experimental stage. White album is still pure at heart with me.. I love just about everything, Rubber soul is perfect. The strong arm of music that came through their career still blows my mind. Most of their music sounds like it will never fade with time..


The eras changed quickly because there were lots of product. Now it takes about three years for an artist to release a followup album. Can't go through multiple changes if there is nothing out there.
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Reply #26 posted 07/31/07 12:37pm

Miles

sextonseven said:

Sdldawn said:

The thing that got me about this group is.. how fast the era's changed.. usually it takes years to go through those.. they happen to go through 4 or 5 "stages" in a period of 5-6 years.. and their music reflected their fresh personality traits.. I personally prefer their experimental stage. White album is still pure at heart with me.. I love just about everything, Rubber soul is perfect. The strong arm of music that came through their career still blows my mind. Most of their music sounds like it will never fade with time..


The eras changed quickly because there were lots of product. Now it takes about three years for an artist to release a followup album. Can't go through multiple changes if there is nothing out there.


Another possible reason why the Beatles changed and developed so fast was because they had some great competition, from the likes of Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, Motown, Jimi Hendrix, the Byrds, etc.

Also, popular music in the '60s evolved so fast, burning up styles like nobody's business. Just look at how fast genres like soul, funk, hard rock evolved, and then there were similar things happening in Jamaica with Ska, rock steady evolving into early reggae. Audiences deeply loved their music. Modern Pop was young as a genre and as a business, and the appetite for new things was massive back then.

Compare with now, when most of what can be done with rock, soul etc, has probably been done (at least twice), and you can partly see why the current scene is so incredibly stagnant imo, with most modern bands and artists being hyped up as the next whoever, and found wanting, often taking years to bring their next set of slightly altered counterfeits of past classics wink . But most of today's mainstream acts seem to be pretty pathetic retreads of superior older stuff imo.

I'm gonna shuffle off now, and play my beloved Louis Armstrong cylinders lol .
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Reply #27 posted 07/31/07 12:59pm

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I like their Charlie Manson's Muse period: White Album - Abbey Road.
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Reply #28 posted 07/31/07 2:39pm

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Miles said:



Also, popular music in the '60s evolved so fast, burning up styles like nobody's business.


god yes! I guess culture itself was changing, though. I can't even think of an important musical trend that's happened in the last ten years. But 1965 was completely different from 1967.
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Reply #29 posted 07/31/07 2:48pm

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NDRU said:

Miles said:



Also, popular music in the '60s evolved so fast, burning up styles like nobody's business.


god yes! I guess culture itself was changing, though. I can't even think of an important musical trend that's happened in the last ten years. But 1965 was completely different from 1967.


In the last ten years I can think of the following trends:

crunk
screwed
electroclash
new rave

Are any of them important? Probably not.
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