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PrintableTimmy84 said: Najee said: Vain, "Between the Sheets" IS a ballad.  Yeah it is. 
Anyway, like I said, do the crime, do the time. I notice a lot of the slower Isley cuts are the ones heavily sampled ("Between the Sheets", "Choosey Lover", "For the Love of You", "Footsteps in the Dark", etc.). I think a lot of the socially conscious/party rappers of the '80s and '90s sampled "It's Your Thing" and "I Turned You On". They have sampled those slow songs so much and, also, these days, the radio stations seem to play only the old slow songs from The Isley Brothers. It has gotten to the point that these youngsters believe that The Isley Brothers were strictly balladeers. I made a young man a compilation CD of nothing but hard jams from The Isley Brothers such as "Livin' In The Life", "Live It Up", "Go All The Way", etc. That little young motherfucker listened to it and said...."That ain't none of the damn Isley Brothers". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I know it's considered a ballad but something about it just doesn't feel like a ballad to me. It feels a little bit like a very slow midtempo song. Maybe it's because that's the era when The Isleys had gotten a more modern sound than the albums before. I don't know what it is. I like the song but it just doesn't do something to me that a ballad like "Sensuality" does. Vain do you hate everything thats under a 90 tempo? i mean damn you hate more songs than me lol I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: vainandy said: I know it's considered a ballad but something about it just doesn't feel like a ballad to me. It feels a little bit like a very slow midtempo song. Maybe it's because that's the era when The Isleys had gotten a more modern sound than the albums before. I don't know what it is. I like the song but it just doesn't do something to me that a ballad like "Sensuality" does. Vain do you hate everything thats under a 90 tempo? i mean damn you hate more songs than me lol I don't hate "Between The Sheets" at all. It's just not one of my favorite Isley tunes. I love "Sensuality" and it's slow as hell. I love music either for the dance floor or for the bedroom. If a song is too fast for the bedroom or too slow for the dancefloor, then it serves no purpose and therefore, should never have been made. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I know it's considered a ballad but something about it just doesn't feel like a ballad to me. It feels a little bit like a very slow midtempo song. Maybe it's because that's the era when The Isleys had gotten a more modern sound than the albums before. I don't know what it is. I like the song but it just doesn't do something to me that a ballad like "Sensuality" does.
"Between the Sheets" was one of the songs that came out in 1983 that had that snaky, percussion-based sound and provocative (if not slightly erotic) undertones, like Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" (a song I felt inspired "Sheets"). That bouncy groove made it a song to which someone can nod their head somewhat, but yeah it's definitely a ballad -- IMO, one of the most sensual songs The Isley Brothers ever made. That's the song you play on a date where (s)he knows what's up!
I understand what you're saying how a lot of youngsters think The Isley Brothers of the 3+3 era only made ballads. I equally loved their jams; arguably my favorite Isleys song is the golden "Harvest for the World," followed by "Fight the Power" and "Take Me to the Next Phase." I'm only speculating, but I feel that The Isleys' ballads may be a little easier for rap artists to sample, because their melodic structures are more adaptable. It's a little harder to do something with the uptempo songs which were more rock-oriented, unless you want Ernie Isley's guitar blasting over the grooves and Ronald Isley shouting. [Edited 8/3/07 21:05pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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vainandy said: When the original "Between The Sheets" first came out in 1983, the DJs at the skating rinks used to clear the floor and play it for a "couples only skate" because it was damn near a ballad. In the 1990s, the shit hoppers sampled it and slowed it down even more and the idiot audiences in the 1990s danced to it on dance floors as if they were dancing to an uptempo jam like "Planet Rock" or something. In the 1990s, people just seemed to lose every damn bit of sense they had. The Notorious B.I.G. -- Big Poppa http://www.youtube.com/wa...qUnW22ehio Even today, any DJ can pack the dancefloor with this track. The tempo of the BTS sample is about the same as the original. Da Brat -- Funkdafied http://www.youtube.com/wa...gUKNWc4xhU This might be the best rap song to ever use the BTS sample. The tempo was just a slight faster than the original. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: vainandy said: I know it's considered a ballad but something about it just doesn't feel like a ballad to me. It feels a little bit like a very slow midtempo song. Maybe it's because that's the era when The Isleys had gotten a more modern sound than the albums before. I don't know what it is. I like the song but it just doesn't do something to me that a ballad like "Sensuality" does. Vain do you hate everything thats under a 90 tempo? i mean damn you hate more songs than me lol Actually, VA hates hip-hop tracks that stay lock between 90-100 BPM. Since 1994, most of the most popular mainstream rap hits were within this tempo. | |
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Najee said: vainandy said: I know it's considered a ballad but something about it just doesn't feel like a ballad to me. It feels a little bit like a very slow midtempo song. Maybe it's because that's the era when The Isleys had gotten a more modern sound than the albums before. I don't know what it is. I like the song but it just doesn't do something to me that a ballad like "Sensuality" does.
"Between the Sheets" was one of the songs that came out in 1983 that had that snaky, percussion-based sound and provocative (if not slightly erotic) undertones, like Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" (a song I felt inspired "Sheets"). That bouncy groove made it a song to which someone can nod their head somewhat, but yeah it's definitely a ballad -- IMO, one of the most sensual songs The Isley Brothers ever made. That's the song you play on a date where (s)he knows what's up!
I understand what you're saying how a lot of youngsters think The Isley Brothers of the 3+3 era only made ballads. I equally loved their jams; arguably my favorite Isleys song is the golden "Harvest for the World," followed by "Fight the Power" and "Take Me to the Next Phase." I'm only speculating, but I feel that The Isleys' ballads may be a little easier for rap artists to sample, because their melodic structures are more adaptable. It's a little harder to do something with the uptempo songs which more rock-oriented, unless you want Ernie Isley's guitar blasting over the grooves and Ronald Isley shouting. [Edited 8/3/07 18:09pm] What ticks me off about how people view the Isleys is that they don't really check out the group's history. I got the "Essential Isleys" album and it covered all their eras, these guys weren't strictly slow jam "heroes", they provided soul, doo-wop, rock & roll, a little Motown, and a whole lot of funk. Shoot, something about what Prince, MJ, Lenny Kravitz, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and 'em have done was in response to the Isley Brothers without neither of them realizing it. In those regards, they were very underrated and overrated actually when only talking about their slow jams and how much hip-hoppers sampled the mess out of it. But I think the Isleys were always too funky for some, too rock & roll for others so they had to do the ballads to FIT IN so to say. And these guys are in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Youngsters are so ignorant to history, if they listen to all the Isley records NOW, they'd be ASHAMED that they even thought "Mr. Biggs" was "cool". | |
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Sorry for the double post, board acting up, lol. [Edited 8/3/07 20:30pm] | |
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