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Reply #30 posted 07/29/07 12:50am

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Also check out James Burton on the DVD Roy Orbison - A Black & White Night.
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Reply #31 posted 07/29/07 12:53am

sassybritches

dead or alive?

i'm not too into cock rock style guitar playing so that rules out a lot of peeps. my personal favorite would have to be a toss up between jimmy page, prince, and lindsey buckingham.
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Reply #32 posted 07/29/07 2:08am

JoVoCoP

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JoVoCoP said:

didnt u guys forget john mayer, he may not be so mainstream, but he has a very intresting style, and is very talented.


He is an amazing guitarist. I actually like him better live than on record.



yea, i like him live to, only been 2 one show and it was awesome!
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Reply #33 posted 07/29/07 2:39am

Krytonite

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Jennifer Batten
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Reply #34 posted 07/29/07 5:37am

FiveFootNine

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Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jimi Hendrix


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Reply #35 posted 07/29/07 8:57am

babynoz

Prince is my favorite! (surprise) biggrin

I dunno who's the best but I also love Santana, SRV and Ernie Isley who is very underrated IMO.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #36 posted 07/29/07 9:03am

babynoz

Anxiety said:

i'm not enough of a guitar gearhead to separate technical skill from composition and stage presence. i can hear someone like steve vai play and feel like he's an incredible athlete and a great craftsman, but on the other hand i think he's boring to watch and his music is dull.

which inevitably leads me to prince, but sometimes i wonder if a lot of his style is showmanship and effects? if the end result looks and sounds amazing, does it matter?

and of course, i am crazy about thurston moore as a guitarist. i don't know if he's "the best in the world", but i think he's engaging and his choices of projects are always challenging and untraditional. i think his style is very abstract and explosive - i love that.




People rave so much about Vai on here I checked him out...he bored me too.

I could write all my technical geetar knowlege on a napkin so I have to go with what I feel instead.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #37 posted 07/29/07 9:09am

coolcat

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Reply #38 posted 07/29/07 9:30am

Anxiety

babynoz said:

Anxiety said:

i'm not enough of a guitar gearhead to separate technical skill from composition and stage presence. i can hear someone like steve vai play and feel like he's an incredible athlete and a great craftsman, but on the other hand i think he's boring to watch and his music is dull.

which inevitably leads me to prince, but sometimes i wonder if a lot of his style is showmanship and effects? if the end result looks and sounds amazing, does it matter?

and of course, i am crazy about thurston moore as a guitarist. i don't know if he's "the best in the world", but i think he's engaging and his choices of projects are always challenging and untraditional. i think his style is very abstract and explosive - i love that.




People rave so much about Vai on here I checked him out...he bored me too.

I could write all my technical geetar knowlege on a napkin so I have to go with what I feel instead.


i feel like some musicians like steve vai and joe satriani are great, but as songwriters and recording artists, they tend to make music that appeals to other musicians and guitar afficionados rather than a wider base of music lovers. and i think that's a fine choice if that's what you want to do, but it doesn't appeal to me. i'd rather hear great guitar playing within the context of a great song, than to hear a bunch of really intricate guitar work for its own sake. it's like guitar porn or something. which, hey, if that's what boils yer noodles, god bless! lol
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Reply #39 posted 07/29/07 9:34am

coolcat

Anxiety said:



i feel like some musicians like steve vai and joe satriani are great, but as songwriters and recording artists, they tend to make music that appeals to other musicians and guitar afficionados rather than a wider base of music lovers.


I can understand when people say this about Steve Vai... but I'm totally confounded when people say this about Satriani... his music is very accessible. There's always a hook. Memorable melodies etc...
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Reply #40 posted 07/29/07 9:44am

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Reply #41 posted 07/29/07 9:54am

babynoz

Anxiety said:

babynoz said:





People rave so much about Vai on here I checked him out...he bored me too.

I could write all my technical geetar knowlege on a napkin so I have to go with what I feel instead.


i feel like some musicians like steve vai and joe satriani are great, but as songwriters and recording artists, they tend to make music that appeals to other musicians and guitar afficionados rather than a wider base of music lovers. and i think that's a fine choice if that's what you want to do, but it doesn't appeal to me. i'd rather hear great guitar playing within the context of a great song, than to hear a bunch of really intricate guitar work for its own sake. it's like guitar porn or something. which, hey, if that's what boils yer noodles, god bless! lol





LOL @ "guitar porn".
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #42 posted 07/29/07 10:01am

FarrahMoan

blackguitaristz said:

James Marshall Hendrix

You know what befuddles me? I haven't found one single bio about how this guy started out on the instrument. It's always, "Born on November 27, 1942 in Seattle, Washington", James Marshall Hendrix lived with his parents until 1951 when they divorced. Then, he got his first acoutic guitar from his grandmother when he was twelve years old and learned on the instrument quickly." Where is the backstory, huh? I don't hear what happened while he learned on the acoustic. He had to have some difficulties. Well, maybe not. sad
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Reply #43 posted 07/29/07 10:08am

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As a "Sister" growing up in the hood, I didn't get exposed to a lot of music with prevalent guitar playing back in the day until Prince came along. He made it OK for kids in my neighborhood to dig rock music. Prince led me to Hendrix (of coarse him being a brother!!)...Hendrix led me to Stevie Ray Vaughan, who in fact led me to countless other Blues artist such as: Albert Collins, Buddy Guy, John Mayall, BB King...I could go on! For some reason SRV is the one that is stuck to my soul! Damn, I wish I could have seen that guy live!!!

So SRV is my pick...Carlos Santana is great too...just one huh? cool
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Reply #44 posted 07/29/07 10:11am

Christaro

Anxiety said:

babynoz said:





People rave so much about Vai on here I checked him out...he bored me too.

I could write all my technical geetar knowlege on a napkin so I have to go with what I feel instead.


i feel like some musicians like steve vai and joe satriani are great, but as songwriters and recording artists, they tend to make music that appeals to other musicians and guitar afficionados rather than a wider base of music lovers. and i think that's a fine choice if that's what you want to do, but it doesn't appeal to me. i'd rather hear great guitar playing within the context of a great song, than to hear a bunch of really intricate guitar work for its own sake. it's like guitar porn or something. which, hey, if that's what boils yer noodles, god bless! lol


I agree with you that Vai's music is primarily for guitar players. However I disagree that his music is boring. His music is very comlex and inventive. That's why I love him so much. He has composed classical music, jazz, rock and roll, fusion , metal and many Zappa-like music. If you study his music you'll discover his genius.
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Reply #45 posted 07/29/07 10:23am

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FarrahMoan said:

blackguitaristz said:

James Marshall Hendrix

You know what befuddles me? I haven't found one single bio about how this guy started out on the instrument. It's always, "Born on November 27, 1942 in Seattle, Washington", James Marshall Hendrix lived with his parents until 1951 when they divorced. Then, he got his first acoutic guitar from his grandmother when he was twelve years old and learned on the instrument quickly." Where is the backstory, huh? I don't hear what happened while he learned on the acoustic. He had to have some difficulties. Well, maybe not. sad

Jimi used to walk around the house, strumming a broom when he was little. I did the same thing when I was little. I think many players have done this. That's a natural thing to do. Anyways, his dad saw this and went out and bought Jimi one. From all accounts, including Jimi's, he definately struggled. Jimi was someone who I think was always frusturated as a player, cuz he heard so many things in his head, that he wanted and needed to get out. He spoke of this all the time. But no, Jimi wasn't a wonderkid on the axe. My belief is that many of your greatest guitarists woodsheded. To put in the time. From Robert Johnson to Eddie Van Halen to Hendrix to Neal Schon to Brian May to Ernie Isley. These cats all put in the time. That's how u develop "THAT" sound. Sure, it's GOD given, but it's up to YOU to get in touch with it and bring it from that spiritual place to the physical.
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Reply #46 posted 07/29/07 10:30am

FarrahMoan

blackguitaristz said:

FarrahMoan said:


You know what befuddles me? I haven't found one single bio about how this guy started out on the instrument. It's always, "Born on November 27, 1942 in Seattle, Washington", James Marshall Hendrix lived with his parents until 1951 when they divorced. Then, he got his first acoutic guitar from his grandmother when he was twelve years old and learned on the instrument quickly." Where is the backstory, huh? I don't hear what happened while he learned on the acoustic. He had to have some difficulties. Well, maybe not. sad

Jimi used to walk around the house, strumming a broom when he was little. I did the same thing when I was little. I think many players have done this. That's a natural thing to do. Anyways, his dad saw this and went out and bought Jimi one. From all accounts, including Jimi's, he definately struggled. Jimi was someone who I think was always frusturated as a player, cuz he heard so many things in his head, that he wanted and needed to get out. He spoke of this all the time. But no, Jimi wasn't a wonderkid on the axe. My belief is that many of your greatest guitarists woodsheded. To put in the time. From Robert Johnson to Eddie Van Halen to Hendrix to Neal Schon to Brian May to Ernie Isley. These cats all put in the time. That's how u develop "THAT" sound. Sure, it's GOD given, but it's up to YOU to get in touch with it and bring it from that spiritual place to the physical.

Well, I hope woodshedding can include "fucking around" on the instrument. Having a short attention span is.....well, seemingly an excuse. I was going to make a ploy for my plight, but sometimes, I can do nothing but blame myself on that. Do you play scales and stuff like that? Are you like a musical intellectualist that knows about the theory? I hate that aspect, but I know that it's basis is mandatory and fundamental. I don't know why, but it's always been easier for me to simulate song playing rather than learning scales and chords by sheet. That's just how I learn, I guess.....if it is even possible or acceptable to do so.
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Reply #47 posted 07/29/07 10:41am

kev1n

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this guy:

It was not in vain...it was in Minneapolis!
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Reply #48 posted 07/29/07 10:42am

babynoz

blackguitaristz said:

FarrahMoan said:


You know what befuddles me? I haven't found one single bio about how this guy started out on the instrument. It's always, "Born on November 27, 1942 in Seattle, Washington", James Marshall Hendrix lived with his parents until 1951 when they divorced. Then, he got his first acoutic guitar from his grandmother when he was twelve years old and learned on the instrument quickly." Where is the backstory, huh? I don't hear what happened while he learned on the acoustic. He had to have some difficulties. Well, maybe not. sad

Jimi used to walk around the house, strumming a broom when he was little. I did the same thing when I was little. I think many players have done this. That's a natural thing to do. Anyways, his dad saw this and went out and bought Jimi one. From all accounts, including Jimi's, he definately struggled. Jimi was someone who I think was always frusturated as a player, cuz he heard so many things in his head, that he wanted and needed to get out. He spoke of this all the time. But no, Jimi wasn't a wonderkid on the axe. My belief is that many of your greatest guitarists woodsheded. To put in the time. From Robert Johnson to Eddie Van Halen to Hendrix to Neal Schon to Brian May to Ernie Isley. These cats all put in the time. That's how u develop "THAT" sound. Sure, it's GOD given, but it's up to YOU to get in touch with it and bring it from that spiritual place to the physical.



From what I've read I got the sense that a lot of his frustration stemmed from the fact that he longed to go back to his guitar playing roots during the time when he was such a hot commodity and there was such a huge demand for the more showy aspects of his act. What do you think???
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Reply #49 posted 07/29/07 11:49am

Anxiety

Christaro said:

Anxiety said:



i feel like some musicians like steve vai and joe satriani are great, but as songwriters and recording artists, they tend to make music that appeals to other musicians and guitar afficionados rather than a wider base of music lovers. and i think that's a fine choice if that's what you want to do, but it doesn't appeal to me. i'd rather hear great guitar playing within the context of a great song, than to hear a bunch of really intricate guitar work for its own sake. it's like guitar porn or something. which, hey, if that's what boils yer noodles, god bless! lol


I agree with you that Vai's music is primarily for guitar players. However I disagree that his music is boring. His music is very comlex and inventive. That's why I love him so much. He has composed classical music, jazz, rock and roll, fusion , metal and many Zappa-like music. If you study his music you'll discover his genius.


well, that's kinda what i mean. i understand his music is technically complex and worthy of accolades, but i guess my problem with a lot of art - not just music - is when it gets so involved in its own process or self-referentialism that it loses a quality of universality. and i'm not KNOCKING that kind of art, because i think it appeals greatly to people who are looking for an "advanced" style, but that approach to creating art is usually lost on me, even when i think i know what they're on about. it's just a personal preference thing. it's like, a clothing designer can make the most intricate, finely crafted garment made from the most rare, delicate, exotic materials and employing the most ingenious design, and i can appreciate that...but if i put it on and it looks like a clown suit, i ain't wearing it! lol
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Reply #50 posted 07/29/07 12:10pm

coolcat

Anxiety said:

Christaro said:



I agree with you that Vai's music is primarily for guitar players. However I disagree that his music is boring. His music is very comlex and inventive. That's why I love him so much. He has composed classical music, jazz, rock and roll, fusion , metal and many Zappa-like music. If you study his music you'll discover his genius.


well, that's kinda what i mean. i understand his music is technically complex and worthy of accolades, but i guess my problem with a lot of art - not just music - is when it gets so involved in its own process or self-referentialism that it loses a quality of universality.


No piece of music is universal. And I don't think complexity has to do with mass appeal. The culture just gets used to a certain kind of music. Classical music was popular at one time. very technically complex. Jazz was popular music at one time. also very technically complex.
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Reply #51 posted 07/29/07 12:30pm

Miles

I will make a long list (cos I feel like it smile) then give my single favourate.

Interpreting 'best' as 'my favourate' -

Sadly Dead

Jimi Hendrix
Frank Zappa
Django Reinhart
Johnny 'Guitar Watson
John Lee Hooker
Sonny Sharrock
Curtis Mayfield
Jimmy Nolen/ Alphono Kellum (JB funk guitarists)
Segovia
Ali Farka Toure
Lonnie Johnson
Albert King
Blind Willie Johnson


Happily Alive

BB King
Jeff Beck
Carlos Santana
Jimmy Page
Reeves Gabrels
Prince
George Benson
Scotty Moore
James Burton
Dick Dale
Pete Cosey (with Miles Davis)
Marc Ribot
Eivind Aarset (Norwegian avante ambient/ fusion distortion master)
Billy Gibbons
Brian May
'Fast' Eddie Clark (of Motorhead)
Peter Green (early work)

Also respect to - Muddy Waters, Ry Cooder (both great slide men imo), Robert Johnson, David Gilmour, Keith Richard, John McLaughlin, Robbie Kreiger (of the Doors), Jerry Reed, Dolly Parton, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Chuck Berry, Franco, Freddie King, the Edge, and many many more. smile

Single favourate - Most likely Hendrix. He almost had it all, gave it all and was it all (for electric guitar at least). Alongside Louis Armstrong and Charlie Parker, the defining musician of 20th century popular music.
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Reply #52 posted 07/29/07 12:38pm

MsLegs

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From Robert Johnson to Eddie Van Halen to Hendrix to Neal Schon to Brian May to Ernie Isley. These cats all put in the time. That's how u develop "THAT" sound. Sure, it's GOD given, but it's up to YOU to get in touch with it and bring it from that spiritual place to the physical.

nod Agreed. Essentially, it boils down to refining your skills to the point that you can channel your soul through your instrument.
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Reply #53 posted 07/29/07 12:42pm

MsLegs

blackguitaristz said:


Jimi used to walk around the house, strumming a broom when he was little. I did the same thing when I was little. I think many players have done this. That's a natural thing to do. .

nod So true. When I was in my toddler years and hadn't picked up mom's accoustic guitar, I used to do the exact thing.
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Reply #54 posted 07/29/07 12:51pm

MsLegs

Anxiety said:



well, that's kinda what i mean. i understand his music is technically complex and worthy of accolades, but i guess my problem with a lot of art - not just music - is when it gets so involved in its own process or self-referentialism that it loses a quality of universality. and i'm not KNOCKING that kind of art, because i think it appeals greatly to people who are looking for an "advanced" style, but that approach to creating art is usually lost on me, even when i think i know what they're on about. it's just a personal preference thing.:

Interesting perspective.
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Reply #55 posted 07/29/07 5:32pm

georgeguitar

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and if you dont know him and u still think guys like steve vai are the best read this,



“It’s always funny to me when people use the phrase, ‘Best guitar player in the world’. There are too many variables such as technique, uniqueness, emotional investment in the notes, etc. But If I had to pick one, it would be Tommy Emmanuel. Watching him perform can be a study in artistic and virtuosic human achievement.”

- Steve Vai, Guitarist and Co-Owner of Favored Nations
[Edited 7/29/07 17:34pm]
"Im Too Funky To Sleep With Myself"
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Reply #56 posted 07/30/07 4:26am

Christaro

Anxiety said:

Christaro said:



I agree with you that Vai's music is primarily for guitar players. However I disagree that his music is boring. His music is very comlex and inventive. That's why I love him so much. He has composed classical music, jazz, rock and roll, fusion , metal and many Zappa-like music. If you study his music you'll discover his genius.


well, that's kinda what i mean. i understand his music is technically complex and worthy of accolades, but i guess my problem with a lot of art - not just music - is when it gets so involved in its own process or self-referentialism that it loses a quality of universality. and i'm not KNOCKING that kind of art, because i think it appeals greatly to people who are looking for an "advanced" style, but that approach to creating art is usually lost on me, even when i think i know what they're on about. it's just a personal preference thing. it's like, a clothing designer can make the most intricate, finely crafted garment made from the most rare, delicate, exotic materials and employing the most ingenious design, and i can appreciate that...but if i put it on and it looks like a clown suit, i ain't wearing it! lol


Ok, I understand your point of view. smile

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Reply #57 posted 07/30/07 5:19am

Christaro

georgeguitar said:

Are you people for reall!


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and if you dont know him and u still think guys like steve vai are the best read this,



“It’s always funny to me when people use the phrase, ‘Best guitar player in the world’. There are too many variables such as technique, uniqueness, emotional investment in the notes, etc. But If I had to pick one, it would be Tommy Emmanuel. Watching him perform can be a study in artistic and virtuosic human achievement.”

- Steve Vai, Guitarist and Co-Owner of Favored Nations
[Edited 7/29/07 17:34pm]


What did you say his name was?
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Reply #58 posted 07/30/07 7:36am

krayzie

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Christaro said:

krayzie said:



You mean right now, or all time ?


Whatever u like



Ah OK

To me the best guitarist is supposed to be able to play any style rock, shred, funk, jazz and most importantly classical.

A guitarist without a former classical training can't be considered as a great guitarist no matter how good he can shred and play.
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Reply #59 posted 07/30/07 7:47am

Butchersdog

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