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Thread started 07/26/07 3:49am

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Zappa and Prince are the two greatest artists ever

Zappa and Prince are the two greatest artists ever

These artists are so similiar in many ways. They are my two favs artists ever.

Zappa's vault is amazing. Literally thousands of master tapes. Every show, every studio session, every t.v performance.

before i got into zappa i thought Prince had the largest body of work and was the most obsessive musician but zappa easily takes the cake.

Any zappa fans will know how similiar these two artists are. After reading books, interviews etc their behaviour was very much the same.
Both great guitarists.
Both obsessive workaholics.
Both have large vaults.
Both taped every show.
Both changed groups every few years.
Both composed their own music.
Both cold and emotionless(for the most part)
Both expressed a huge interest in sex via music.
Both have had bandmates say horrible things; very similiar things.
Both work all night; eat little; sleep in the day only a few hours.
Both found it hard forming human relationships. They put their music first.
Both were on WB and expressed disgust at one pint towards the label.
Both released albums yearly and wnated to release them every few months.

Obviously there were differences but the work pattern and treatment of others were very much the same. I can't think of any other artists who had as many songs in a short period of time and worked non stop; i mean literally nearly every waking hour.
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Reply #1 posted 07/26/07 4:06am

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Reply #2 posted 07/26/07 4:10am

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So Jimmy Page is a pedophile?
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Reply #3 posted 07/26/07 4:41am

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lilgish said:

So Jimmy Page is a pedophile?


It's just a joke but yes he is
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Reply #4 posted 07/26/07 4:53am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

lilgish said:

So Jimmy Page is a pedophile?


It's just a joke but yes he is

Was.
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Reply #5 posted 07/26/07 4:54am

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minneapolisgenius said:

jimmypageisapedo said:



It's just a joke but yes he is

Was.


yeah when in his 20/30s.

Don;t dwell on it. He at least didn;t force anyone. Zep are my fav group ever
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Reply #6 posted 07/26/07 4:56am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Was.


yeah when in his 20/30s.

Don;t dwell on it. He at least didn;t force anyone. Zep are my fav group ever

Me too.

But odd username if you're a fan though. hmm
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Reply #7 posted 07/26/07 5:03am

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minneapolisgenius said:

jimmypageisapedo said:



yeah when in his 20/30s.

Don;t dwell on it. He at least didn;t force anyone. Zep are my fav group ever

Me too.

But odd username if you're a fan though. hmm



It is a quote of a thread on the official zep board. There's a thread about the 14 year old lori maddox thatjimmy was fucking. I do not take these things sseriously. I know it's trut but oh well. I like the art not the people.
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Reply #8 posted 07/26/07 5:08am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Me too.

But odd username if you're a fan though. hmm



It is a quote of a thread on the official zep board. There's a thread about the 14 year old lori maddox thatjimmy was fucking. I do not take these things sseriously. I know it's trut but oh well. I like the art not the people.
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Where, on led-zeppelin.com? Or the actual offical site that no one goes to? lol There a huge ongoing thread (one of many actually) about Lori on led-zeppelin.com complete with tons of pics. nod

(yeah, I'm a member there if you haven't guessed already smile )
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Reply #9 posted 07/26/07 5:16am

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minneapolisgenius said:

jimmypageisapedo said:




It is a quote of a thread on the official zep board. There's a thread about the 14 year old lori maddox thatjimmy was fucking. I do not take these things sseriously. I know it's trut but oh well. I like the art not the people.
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Where, on led-zeppelin.com? Or the actual offical site that no one goes to? lol There a huge ongoing thread (one of many actually) about Lori on led-zeppelin.com complete with tons of pics. nod

(yeah, I'm a member there if you haven't guessed already smile )


yeah i think that's the one about lori. She's look about 12 as well. Pretty sick
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jimmypageisapedo said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Where, on led-zeppelin.com? Or the actual offical site that no one goes to? lol There a huge ongoing thread (one of many actually) about Lori on led-zeppelin.com complete with tons of pics. nod

(yeah, I'm a member there if you haven't guessed already smile )


yeah i think that's the one about lori. She's look about 12 as well. Pretty sick

She was 14 and 15 actually.
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Reply #11 posted 07/26/07 5:31am

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I hardly post here, but I just had to say that I fully support the thesis laid out in the subject line. smile
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Reply #12 posted 07/26/07 5:36am

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minneapolisgenius said:

jimmypageisapedo said:



yeah i think that's the one about lori. She's look about 12 as well. Pretty sick

She was 14 and 15 actually.


I know she was 14. I said she looked about 12.
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Reply #13 posted 07/26/07 5:37am

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McGee said:

I hardly post here, but I just had to say that I fully support the thesis laid out in the subject line. smile



yes it's a shame some people have to deviate from it; leading me to explain irrelevant things
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Reply #14 posted 07/26/07 5:57am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

McGee said:

I hardly post here, but I just had to say that I fully support the thesis laid out in the subject line. smile



yes it's a shame some people have to deviate from it; leading me to explain irrelevant things

You bring it on yourself with your username. You have to expect that. shrug

But no, I don't agree with the subject of this thread personally. There are no "two greatest" artists ever. Just opinions. Being prolific and great are two totally different things.
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Reply #15 posted 07/26/07 6:21am

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MinneapolisGenius likes Led Zeppelin?! omfg
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RipHer2Shreds said:

MinneapolisGenius likes Led Zeppelin?! omfg

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Reply #17 posted 07/26/07 5:12pm

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I think I get your point... they both have a similar work ethic at least.
They're polar opposites when it comes to religion though razz

Hmmm,'Alexa de Paris' has always reminded me of the version of 'Duke of Prunes' on 'Orchestral Favorites'.
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Reply #18 posted 07/26/07 9:26pm

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Wow, this thread has become off-topic very quick. lol

But as to the topic, I wholeheartedly agree. Frank Zappa was a genius, and right up there with Prince. cool
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Reply #19 posted 07/27/07 12:51am

Cheek

Since I checked this thread - could any Zappa fan recommend me a few of his greatest albums, please??? smile
Thanks! smile
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Reply #20 posted 07/27/07 2:03am

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Cheek said:

Since I checked this thread - could any Zappa fan recommend me a few of his greatest albums, please??? smile
Thanks! smile


Aaargh! including posthumous releases there are 75 Frank Zappa albums.eek

Hmmm, well I reckon 'Overnite Sensation' and 'Apostrophe' are excellent albums to start off with.
'Strictly Commercial' is the official 'Best of'.
You could also try the compilation of Zappa's satirical songs 'Have I Offended Someone?' and see if offends you... Hope this helps.
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Reply #21 posted 07/27/07 2:13am

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Aaargh! including posthumous releases there are 75 Frank Zappa albums.eek

Hmmm, well I reckon 'Overnite Sensation' and 'Apostrophe' are excellent albums to start off with.
'Strictly Commercial' is the official 'Best of'.
You could also try the compilation of Zappa's satirical songs 'Have I Offended Someone?' and see if offends you... Hope this helps.


75??? eyepop Wow! lol

Thank you so much, I'm gonna check those you mentioned! smile
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Reply #22 posted 07/27/07 3:08am

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stim said:

Cheek said:

Since I checked this thread - could any Zappa fan recommend me a few of his greatest albums, please??? smile
Thanks! smile


Aaargh! including posthumous releases there are 75 Frank Zappa albums.eek

Hmmm, well I reckon 'Overnite Sensation' and 'Apostrophe' are excellent albums to start off with.
'Strictly Commercial' is the official 'Best of'.
You could also try the compilation of Zappa's satirical songs 'Have I Offended Someone?' and see if offends you... Hope this helps.



I agree. Start with
one size fits all
overnite sensation
apostrophe

After that you may want to buy everything so come back here for more advice biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 07/27/07 3:10am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

I agree. Start with
one size fits all
overnite sensation
apostrophe

After that you may want to buy everything so come back here for more advice biggrin


Thank you! wink

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Reply #24 posted 07/27/07 4:51am

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I'll take Stevie Wonder over both of them.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #25 posted 07/27/07 5:06am

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AlexdeParis said:

I'll take Stevie Wonder over both of them.


You are missing out then.Stevie as good as he is is nowhere near zappa's genius. Stevie is only human.
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Reply #26 posted 07/27/07 5:16am

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jimmypageisapedo said:

AlexdeParis said:

I'll take Stevie Wonder over both of them.


You are missing out then.Stevie as good as he is is nowhere near zappa's genius. Stevie is only human.

I have plenty of respect for Zappa (and Prince, for that matter). I prefer Stevie.
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Reply #27 posted 07/27/07 5:18am

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RIGHT.

Zappa was good but I can confirm, that like Stevie, he was definitely a humanoid. nod

jimmypageisapedo said:

AlexdeParis said:

I'll take Stevie Wonder over both of them.


You are missing out then.Stevie as good as he is is nowhere near zappa's genius. Stevie is only human.
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Reply #28 posted 07/27/07 7:56am

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AlexdeParis said:

jimmypageisapedo said:



You are missing out then.Stevie as good as he is is nowhere near zappa's genius. Stevie is only human.

I have plenty of respect for Zappa (and Prince, for that matter). I prefer Stevie.


o.k that's fine he is a genius too but not as obsessive

I do like stevie; i have bought about 6 of his albums biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 07/27/07 11:11am

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Before i go on, .. i love Prince and have since `84 when i was 7 yrs old. His skill as an overall instrumentalist is phenomenal and as a live performer he is stunning.....however, Zappa wrote music that Prince simply cannot rival. I have listened to both since i was a child and it has taken me years to come to the conclusion that zappa is a far more developed musician and composer - purely because i was too young / ignorant to appreciate what was going on. Listen to the black page / Alien Orifice / Sinister Footwear II. There is no way Prince could play this stuff (or would probably want to)
They are totally different in approach and desired output. Prince writes excellent "songs" and can jam like no-one else when it is time for the funk! These songs however tend to stay very within the regular laws of music theory. The result is quite a standard and predictable type of music (although truly excellent)
Zappa wrote compositions as well as songs. Key / Time signature / structure has no boundary.
I used to be 100% Prince - then i heard the break in St Alphonso's pancake breakfast from Apostrophe. Ludicrous complexity but pure Frank. (This is not showing off - just a neccessary part of the piece)
Give it a try!
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