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Marvin Gaye's "Trouble Man" album I know I can't fucking stop talking about the man but lemme just say I've been playing Marvin's Trouble Man album since yesterday and it's just slamming!!!
They said that most of the songs on the album weren't even played in the movie which is a bummer because the instrumentals on this piece were perfect fodder but on its own, this is Marvin P. Gaye, Jr. at his musicianship best. On the songs where he added vocal touches, he just used the vocals to emulate the instruments and it sounded sharp. Marvin apparently played the drums, piano, keyboards and synthesizers to this collection. The man behind the sax, Trevor Lawrence, is freakin' genius too. This album was released just around the time Curtis Mayfield put out the soundtrack to Superfly and over a year after Isaac Hayes' Shaft and while it wasn't the lyrical masterpiece of Curtis' joint, it matched Isaac's though Isaac had more actual vocal joints. Marvin, for the most part, was all about the music, lyrics in this album were secondary but the vocal version of the title track stands out as among one of the best socially aware joints recorded. Marvin wrote, arranged, composed and produced the whole damn thing too. Probably his most overlooked album outside of Here, My Dear, In Our Lifetime and (to a lesser degree) I Want You? Maybe, you name your pick. But this soundtrack is the bomb. Main standout joints: "Trouble Man" (the vocal version) "Don't Mess With Mister 'T'" "'T' Plays It Cool" "'T' Stands for Trouble" "Life is a Gamble"  | |
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I haven't pulled out Trouble Man in a while. I'm bout to go jam it now!! PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: I haven't pulled out Trouble Man in a while. I'm bout to go jam it now!!
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I discovered this album last year and I have to say, I never knew Marv could score a blaxplotation film by his own self with so much energy and complexity. While it would never top What's Going On, Let's Get It On, I Want You, or Here My Dear, I still say that this is one of his most ambitious, atmospheric, and adventurous suites. It has this moody atmosphere, with a sort of jazzy big band style, and like WGO, the songs segue into one another. Marvin effortlessly shows his musical skills and range, particularly on synthesizer and keyboards. It's just a shame this album gets underappreciated because for the most part it is instrumental and most pop music listeners have an attention span that isn't accomadating to long pieces or concept records. If you ask me, it's really a continuation of the artistic freedom Marvin fought for when he wanted to release 'What's Going On'. When Marvin does sing on this record, he is also at his very best, particularly on the classic title track, and the wordless multi-tracked doo-wop harmony he does by himself on "Cleo's Apartment". If you really want to know why the Grammy's are so irrelevant to real talent, check out this album because far miles ahead of WGO and it will blow your socks off. I'd also like to give my humble shout out to the saxophone player, I think his name is Trevor Lawrence, because he does an excellent job throughout on tenor & baritone saxophone. These songs are first-class, funky, and well-done! Check me out and add me on:
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This is a classic LP. "Mr. T Plays It Cool" is one of the funkiest things Marvin's ever done. The flick is not that bad either. | |
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My apologies..I meant to say "T Plays It Cool"...I had a "A-Team" flashback. | |
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silverchild said: I discovered this album last year and I have to say, I never knew Marv could score a blaxplotation film by his own self with so much energy and complexity. While it would never top What's Going On, Let's Get It On, I Want You, or Here My Dear, I still say that this is one of his most ambitious, atmospheric, and adventurous suites. It has this moody atmosphere, with a sort of jazzy big band style, and like WGO, the songs segue into one another. Marvin effortlessly shows his musical skills and range, particularly on synthesizer and keyboards. It's just a shame this album gets underappreciated because for the most part it is instrumental and most pop music listeners have an attention span that isn't accomadating to long pieces or concept records. If you ask me, it's really a continuation of the artistic freedom Marvin fought for when he wanted to release 'What's Going On'. When Marvin does sing on this record, he is also at his very best, particularly on the classic title track, and the wordless multi-tracked doo-wop harmony he does by himself on "Cleo's Apartment". If you really want to know why the Grammy's are so irrelevant to real talent, check out this album because far miles ahead of WGO and it will blow your socks off. I'd also like to give my humble shout out to the saxophone player, I think his name is Trevor Lawrence, because he does an excellent job throughout on tenor & baritone saxophone. These songs are first-class, funky, and well-done!
Yep, Marvin's an underrated composer.  I love his musical compositions on his records. So ethereal as the man himself. | |
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Great album. I just received the Deluxe Edition1 | |
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seanski said: Great album. I just received the Deluxe Edition1
Is there a deluxe edition of the Trouble Man album? Where can I get it? Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: seanski said: Great album. I just received the Deluxe Edition1
Is there a deluxe edition of the Trouble Man album? Where can I get it? He/she was probably confused by the In Our Lifetime or Let's Get It On or I Want You or What's Going On deluxe editions because as far as I know there's no deluxe edition to Trouble Man unless he/she bought the remastered version.  | |
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Timmy84 said: silverchild said: Is there a deluxe edition of the Trouble Man album? Where can I get it? He/she was probably confused by the In Our Lifetime or Let's Get It On or I Want You or What's Going On deluxe editions because as far as I know there's no deluxe edition to Trouble Man unless he/she bought the remastered version. Yeah, because I haven't seen a deluxe or sepcial reissue of Trouble Man anywhere! I just have the one that was reissued sometime in the 90's. Now that you mentioned the IOL, LGIO, IWY, and WGO deluxe editions, I love each and every one of them. And I'm a proud owner of all of them. As a matter of fact, I might spin the Expanded Love Man Edition of In Our Lifetime today! Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: Timmy84 said: He/she was probably confused by the In Our Lifetime or Let's Get It On or I Want You or What's Going On deluxe editions because as far as I know there's no deluxe edition to Trouble Man unless he/she bought the remastered version. Yeah, because I haven't seen a deluxe or sepcial reissue of Trouble Man anywhere! I just have the one that was reissued sometime in the 90's. Now that you mentioned the IOL, LGIO, IWY, and WGO deluxe editions, I love each and every one of them. And I'm a proud owner of all of them. As a matter of fact, I might spin the Expanded Love Man Edition of In Our Lifetime today! I've been trying to find the deluxe editions of LGIO and WGO but they're never in the stores and when I do find them, I don't have enough money to get them.  But maybe one day, all the deluxe editions (with the exception of IWY because I got that!  ) will be in the store and I could buy each of them. I got all the original versions of the albums though. Hopefully the IOL edition will be in stores soon, lol. | |
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But I've already heard some of the LGIO and WGO extras from the deluxe editions and they are EXCELLENT!
I love the slower and funkier version of "You're the Man", his original demo of "Let's Get It On" (originally a political song), "I Love You Secretly" (the song he did with the Miracles), the original version of "Distant Lover" ("Head Title"), "We Can Make It Baby", a 1972 live version of "God is Love", so I'm not too sad about it. I've got like 20 Marvin Gaye CDs though.  And the 1980 Montreux DVD.  | |
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Along with the great EW&F and Sly Stone albums (Pop elements), this record (Jazz elements) could also be considered a template for the potential of R&B's future before melody was surgically removed by Rap.
Specifically, the cut Trouble Man would easily make my Top 100 favorite R&B tunes. The Jazz themes of Don't Mess With Mr. T were expanded on nicely by... 
...Stanley Turrentine tA  Tribal Disorder
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You know I've yet to get Marvin's Vulnerable, the album that had him redoing traditional pop ballads in his own soulful voice but I heard his renewed versions of "Why Did I Choose You" and "She Needs Me" and I'm shocked by his vocal genius. Enough can't be said about the man's voice! 
Especially in "Why Did I Choose You". I heard the 1966 version of this song and he was at a struggling phase trying to mix jazz and soul together when Motown wanted him to strictly do R&B and while it was nice, his 1978 redoing of it blew that out of the water! I love his spoken intro too: "You were just too cold! You were cold as ice You wasn't very niiiiice..." Then mixing tenor and falsetto, oh my God, incredible... and "She Needs Me" had doo-wop background to it, it just added a doo-wop flavor to the pop ballads. I wish I could hear "I Won't Cry Anymore" and all the other joints though because I heard Marvin CUT IT UP on those joints. I got the "Midnight Love" deluxe edition too. | |
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theAudience said: R&B's future before melody was surgically removed by Rap.
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theAudience said: Along with the great EW&F and Sly Stone albums (Pop elements), this record (Jazz elements) could also be considered a template for the potential of R&B's future before melody was surgically removed by Rap.
Specifically, the cut Trouble Man would easily make my Top 100 favorite R&B tunes. The Jazz themes of Don't Mess With Mr. T were expanded on nicely by...
...Stanley Turrentine tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 That's a nice way of putting it, Aud. This album is so good that anybody that dares call the next "R&B cat" the new Marvin Gaye, I dared them to listen to Trouble Man, if they can't come up with anything this great instrumentally, stop trying to be something you're not. I'm amazed at how many times this album has been either sampled or covered and yet not too many people call it "one of his greatest produced albums", they usually skip TM to talk about LGIO and "Marvin's downfall".  I'm like "he created great music during his 'downfall' too!"
How many people have actually covered "Trouble Man" though? I can probably count it on my fingers alone... | |
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Cinnie said: theAudience said: R&B's future before melody was surgically removed by Rap.
Make mine a DOUBLE! 
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Yo, Aud, what's your favorite joint (or joints) from this album? | |
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Timmy84 said: How many people have actually covered "Trouble Man" though? I can probably count it on my fingers alone... Yeah, mostly by Jazz & Blues artists which makes perfect sense...  
...Grover Washington Jr. & Buddy Guy for example. tA Tribal Disorder
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Timmy84 said: You know I've yet to get Marvin's Vulnerable, the album that had him redoing traditional pop ballads in his own soulful voice but I heard his renewed versions of "Why Did I Choose You" and "She Needs Me" and I'm shocked by his vocal genius. Enough can't be said about the man's voice!
Especially in "Why Did I Choose You". I heard the 1966 version of this song and he was at a struggling phase trying to mix jazz and soul together when Motown wanted him to strictly do R&B and while it was nice, his 1978 redoing of it blew that out of the water! I love his spoken intro too: "You were just too cold! You were cold as ice You wasn't very niiiiice..." Then mixing tenor and falsetto, oh my God, incredible... and "She Needs Me" had doo-wop background to it, it just added a doo-wop flavor to the pop ballads. I wish I could hear "I Won't Cry Anymore" and all the other joints though because I heard Marvin CUT IT UP on those joints. I got the "Midnight Love" deluxe edition too. I have Vulnerable and I love it very much.Marvin had been working on an album of standards since 1966, and, 12 years later, he had finally completed seven tracks that he was very pleased with. However, the album (which was then simply titled BALLADS) was not released until 1997. According to David Ritz, Marvin considered these songs to be his best work, however, he eventually decided against releasing them because he was afraid that his fans wouldn't except the change in material. Anyone who has heard the renditions of the standards that Marvin recorded in 1966 (much of which were eventually released on 1985's ROMANTICALLY YOURS) will instantly notice the tremendous growth in Marvin's voice and interpretations. On the standards that he recorded in the sixties, Marvin sounds stiff and mechanical. However, on these 1978 recordings, Marvin finally found his niche as a ballad crooner. On VULNERABLE, his multi-layered vocals are pure, beautiful, and soulful. While I cannot call this his best work, I will say that this may contain his finest vocal performances. On every single track, it's clear that Marvin loves singing this material, and his passion seems to make his already incomparable voice sound even lovelier. Oh, Timmy, now you can own the Vulnerable album. Cop this one: 
Not only do you get all the seven of the original, yet haunting and beautiful tracks that appeared 1997 issue of Vulnerable, you get some of his greatest love suites to get the mood started. Here's the tracklist: 1. Why Did I Choose You (from Vulnerable) 2. She Needs Me (from Vulnerable) 3. You Sure Love To Ball 4. Funny, Not Much (from Vulnerable) 5. Soon I'll Be Loving You Again 6. This Will Make You Laugh (from Vulnerable) 7. Funk Me 8. The Shadow Of Your Smile (from Vulnerable) 9. I Wish I Didn't Love You So (from Vulnerable) 10. Since I Had You 11. Feel All My Love Inside 12. I Won't Cry Anymore (from Vulnerable) 13. Falling In Love Again GET IT FROM AMAZON.COM: http://www.amazon.com/Lov...026&sr=1-1 [Edited 8/11/07 13:20pm] Check me out and add me on:
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Timmy84 said: Yo, Aud, what's your favorite joint (or joints) from this album? Trouble Man with Don't Mess With Mr.T running a close second. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Trouble Man Co-sign. Trouble Man is a classic Marvin song. Jazzy blues and smooth all at the same damn time. [Edited 8/11/07 13:26pm] | |
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silverchild said: Timmy84 said: You know I've yet to get Marvin's Vulnerable, the album that had him redoing traditional pop ballads in his own soulful voice but I heard his renewed versions of "Why Did I Choose You" and "She Needs Me" and I'm shocked by his vocal genius. Enough can't be said about the man's voice!
Especially in "Why Did I Choose You". I heard the 1966 version of this song and he was at a struggling phase trying to mix jazz and soul together when Motown wanted him to strictly do R&B and while it was nice, his 1978 redoing of it blew that out of the water! I love his spoken intro too: "You were just too cold! You were cold as ice You wasn't very niiiiice..." Then mixing tenor and falsetto, oh my God, incredible... and "She Needs Me" had doo-wop background to it, it just added a doo-wop flavor to the pop ballads. I wish I could hear "I Won't Cry Anymore" and all the other joints though because I heard Marvin CUT IT UP on those joints. I got the "Midnight Love" deluxe edition too. I have Vulnerable and I love it very much.Marvin had been working on an album of standards since 1966, and, 12 years later, he had finally completed seven tracks that he was very pleased with. However, the album (which was then simply titled BALLADS) was not released until 1997. According to David Ritz, Marvin considered these songs to be his best work, however, he eventually decided against releasing them because he was afraid that his fans wouldn't except the change in material. Anyone who has heard the renditions of the standards that Marvin recorded in 1966 (much of which were eventually released on 1985's ROMANTICALLY YOURS) will instantly notice the tremendous growth in Marvin's voice and interpretations. On the standards that he recorded in the sixties, Marvin sounds stiff and mechanical. However, on these 1978 recordings, Marvin finally found his niche as a ballad crooner. On VULNERABLE, his multi-layered vocals are pure, beautiful, and soulful. While I cannot call this his best work, I will say that this may contain his finest vocal performances. On every single track, it's clear that Marvin loves singing this material, and his passion seems to make his already incomparable voice sound even lovelier. Oh, Timmy, now you can own the Vulnerable album. Cop this one:
Not only do you get all the seven of the original, yet haunting and beautiful tracks that appeared 1997 issue of Vulnerable, you get some of his greatest love suites to get the mood started. Here's the tracklist: 1. Why Did I Choose You (from Vulnerable) 2. She Needs Me (from Vulnerable) 3. You Sure Love To Ball 4. Funny, Not Much (from Vulnerable) 5. Soon I'll Be Loving You Again 6. This Will Make You Laugh (from Vulnerable) 7. Funk Me 8. The Shadow Of Your Smile (from Vulnerable) 9. I Wish I Didn't Love You So (from Vulnerable) 10. Since I Had You 11. Feel All My Love Inside 12. I Won't Cry Anymore (from Vulnerable) 13. Falling In Love Again GET IT FROM AMAZON.COM: http://www.amazon.com/Lov...026&sr=1-1 [Edited 8/11/07 13:20pm] Oh thank you so much, SC! If I can muster up the courage, I'll cop that real soon. I'm kinda broke right now. But once I get paper, I'll cop it.  | |
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MsLegs said: theAudience said: Trouble Man Co-sign. Trouble Man is a classic Marvin song. Jazzy blues and smooth all at the same damn time. [Edited 8/11/07 13:26pm] Ain't it? I think a lot of us could relate to this song too. | |
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theAudience said: Timmy84 said: Yo, Aud, what's your favorite joint (or joints) from this album? Trouble Man with Don't Mess With Mr.T running a close second. tA Tribal Disorder
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Timmy84 said: theAudience said: Trouble Man with Don't Mess With Mr.T running a close second. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Don't Mess With Mister 'T'" is BOSS! yes, but i'm just fallin' in love with that funktastic jam called "T" Plays It Cool! Check me out and add me on:
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