Is this Thrill the World thing in October real???

JackieBlue said:

Hell naw! Unless it's that London play based on "Thriller", other than that... uh-uh... I'll believe it when it comes out of Michael's mouth. He don't need to do any more "thrills", shock me, bruh!

dag said:

Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying, I want him to surprise me on this one. And his shows, I don't want all that pyrotechnic shit, all them special effects, nah, he just needs to switch it. That's why some people wanna come off that bruh don't have the willpower anymore because he's always gotta have effects to entertain me. I'm a late-era fan because I was born in '84 but I'm an old schooler by heart so I can't be put into that Dangerous fan box.

Timmy84 said:

You know what I´d love to see? That cancelled HBO special where he collapsed. I´d love the see the version of Childhood with the french mime Marcel Marceau. It looked so special, so poetic. Completely new Mike, not pyrotechnics, no nothing. It would have been great.

dag said:

I'm mad he didn't even follow up on that. I wish he could do it.

It seems some of you totally missed out on your share of common sense!

And.....why does a particular persons posts here concerning Michael Jackson take on a different tone as opposed to their posts on another forum?hmm....

You all seem to think you know whats best, nothing MJ will do from here on out will ever be enough for you, so whats the point of constantly being so negative against the man at all times?

JackieBlue said:

Yes it is. Check it out for yourself - www.thrilltheworld.com
This event has been reported on both FOX news and CNN.

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dag said:

LOL. That says it all. You missed THRILLER, LOL. Boy you Missed it, fo real. And I fiqured you were young. That explains your ignorance! LOL. Don't always trust the historians my young friend.

Yeah, and i got career advice from Sean Paul, Whitney Houston, and the DJ Thomas Jefferson.

mrsnet said:[quote]

Timmy84 said:

I missed "Thriller" but I'm a fan of the older albums. That ain't ignorant, that's opinionated.

No source = fake

Timmy84 said:

Me too.

I haven´t heard about it. Sounds cool.

mrsnet said:

You are clearly a diehard fan of Michael and I'm surprised that you wouldn't welcome an acoustic album and tour from him.I can't believe that you want him to make yet another glossy,over-produced,over-hyped album that features contributions from people who are far beneath him (R.Kelly,Ne-Yo,etc).Is that what you really want?! You want him to continue down the same path he's been traveling for years? You don't want a refreshing change of pace?

Since thriller everything went wrong :

First plastic surgery
then Singing
Then dancing

He lost all the appeal that made him a superstar.

This guy everytime he releases a new album he's an embarassment.

He should retire and accept to release the Destiny tour, Triumph tour, Victory tour and Bad tour on DVD.

Nobody cares about him only his hardcore fans who live in the past and love his scary face.
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krayzie said:

He had his first surgery well before Thriller. The surgery should have started and stopped with Off The Wall, and at the very most should NEVER gone beyond Thriller.

As for the singing, I have no problem with him evolving, but once he evolved squarely into mainstream pop/rock/disney songs and therefore losing most of his original, organic sound it was always going to be difficult to go back to the basis, because has he evolved so did his fanbase, which are mainly made up of pop fans.

The dancing went wrong when he started to become technical and started to rely more and more on the grab-crotching/moonwalk moves. If you look back to the 70s I think Michael was so much funkier, yes, he could be very polished but that funk still flowed through his body. Today he really is just a carbon copy of Bob Fosse.
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whatsgoingon said:

Bad was a big turning point for me. Seeing that cover...I was just speechless. I knew something was amiss and defended him until I just didn't know what I was defending him for.

Crotch-grabbing is not a dance to me. I'll never fully understand what all that was/is about. One or two videos, fine. Two decades of it is

Despite what many fans say, I think MJ is a tad out of touch and that effects his output.
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I'm fast losing patience with MJ's online fans. You know the type, the ones who think that HIStory is his best album ever and that he is going to suprise us all with some huge comeback that'll make him the biggest star on the planet again and he can do that by remaking a load of HIStory style "everyone is out to get me" "save the kids" drivel whilst saying that he looks "hot" these days.

As time ticks on and the man just does nothing except turn up every other year to award ceremonies or other things where he's paid millions to wave and say "I love you" in sunglasses, it's becoming increasingly clear that he's probably retired but hasn't got the guts to announce it. I bet there's still no new album by Christmas 2008.

Like a previous poster said, he once said that the stage was his home, now he avoids it like the plague.

Such a shame, i've been into his music since Thriller came out. Probably best to remember him that way.

pjh1972 said:

Maybe retirement wouldn't be such a bad idea.I think in many ways,his career is damaged beyond repair.I also don't think he is truly inspired by music anymore.He never even performs anymore.He's had such an amazing career,he's achieved so much,why not just relax and raise his kids? Unless he's gonna do the acoustic album/tour thing (which would surprise and delight many people),I really don't see the point in continuing his career,with that predictable album he's currently working on.

pjh1972 said:

That was me. In fact I'm gonna send the post again, cos the dreamers are still asleep. The message hasn't gotten through. Here it is...

As promised....

Some of you are living in dream land. Michael can't sing live anymore. He's been struggling with his voice ever since the Bad tour and it's got progressively worse ever since. If Michael could still sing live, he would. You wouldn't be able to stop him. His ego alone would compel him to show it off. Why hide something glorious? Up until the mid 80s Michael had no coyness about singing. James Brown, Diana Ross and others would call him on stage and he'd grab the mic and kill it. Because he could. Do you think the pleasure he took in that has gone? Please. He'd love to grab a mic now and rock the house with that awesome voice again. Just on an ego level if nothing else. He doesn't do it now because he can't.
Think about it for a second. Michael used to describe himself as a "stage addict". The stage was his home. So why does he avoid it like the plague now? The answer is obvious. He doesn't have the confidence or belief anymore. It's probably the weight of people expecting a turnaround that makes it worse for him.

midnightmover said:

SoulAlive said:

at both posts. He may sell more than Prince or Madonna but at least they put out regular material and perform live shows. I don't care about that whole quality versus quantity defense either because the quality ain't always so great. It's a matter of opinion. I love the variety of Prince's discography. I’m glad that Madonna is still making albums and touring. If I don’t like this album, maybe I’ll like the next one. At least I know there’ll be a next one and it won’t take 8 years to drop.

I feel like P and Madge are still doing the damned thing and they haven’t let personal or professional challenges, sales or even fans stop them from creating and performing and at the end of the day that’s all I really want from the artists I love.
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whatsgoingon said:

Total bullshit. Michael's dancing in the mid 70s was very underdeveloped and gay looking. He had energy and enthusiasm, but it was nowhere near as mindblowing as it would later become. If Michael had stayed dancing like that, Thriller would never have conquered the world like it did. This new style he developed blew people's minds with good reason. It was electrifying.
I was shocked when, in the mid 90s, I finally saw footage of him performing 20 years earlier. He was still in that awkward transitional phase between the cute kid and the mature performer. That applied to both his voice and his dancing. In the late 70s he entered his second golden era as a performer. That lasted at least another ten years. Vocally he started to crumble on the Bad Tour. Dance wise he stayed pretty sharp for a few more years, though he began repeating moves a bit too much in the early 90s. The moves were still great, but he failed to realise that sometimes less is more.

pjh1972 said:

I should add that I think it would be great for him to do an Unplugged type thing which would silence doubters like myself as well as gain him new respect from fans that might have deserted him and help him win new ones, but I don't think he will for the reasons above.

At best, we might get some miming to Heal The World accompanied by some body popping that hasn't been in fashion since Breakdance 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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pjh1972 said:

I'll add something else, and that is that Michael is not above re-recording vocals to make it seem like he's singing live when he's not. He did that for some songs on the MSG concert. For instance TWYMMF. Also, in Shake Your Body, the brothers at one point are mouthing the line "Shake Your Body" and yet they are nowhere near the microphones, and yet we magically hear their voices loud and clear.

midnightmover said:

Well you haven't seen The Jackson variety shows then. I don't call grab-crotching every 5 seconds which he started to do in great earnest during the Bad era great dancing!! I have nothing against Polish choregraphy and in his younger days Michael would wipe the floor with any so-called professional dancer. I loved the Thriller, Beat it and Smooth Criminal videos the choregraphy was electrifying, but at a live concert I want to feel the funk not see a reactment of a video on stage and I don't get that from his live performances, although the Bad tours were brilliant. But everything after that is a rehash of the same old, polish choregraphy which for those of you who don't know is more a rip off from the dancer Bob Fosse. That's why I rather watch the Jackson 5 in Mexico 75 then the Dangerous tour at least your watching a live show, with all it's flaws and funk.

whatsgoingon said:

It was the variety show I was largely talking about. There was some cool stuff there, and I enjoyed it, but his style was clearly nowhere near as great as it would become.

You're overstating the case. In videos like Smooth Criminal and performances of the time, he did a hell of a lot more than just crotch grab. If that was all he did then I wouldn't be defending it. Michael's moves at that time were out of this world. That was what set him apart from everyone else. That was why he sold as well as he did. He wouldn't have reached so many people if he'd maintained the embryonic transitional style he had in the mid 70s.

This is a seperate issue. I totally agree that his concerts became largely re-enactments of his videos and that sold his fans short. Many of the kop brigade are too unsophisticated to realise, but those of us who've followed other performers can clearly see Michael's laziness in this department.

Wrong. Bob Fosse never danced anything like Michael. Michael's videos borrowed from old musicals of people like Bob Fosse, but his actual dancing itself is another matter. James Brown and Fred Astaire were also inspirational figures for Michael, but he doesn't dance anything like them either. Bob Fosse himself said this on the subject, "If I was to compare Michael to someone like Astaire or myself I would do him an injustice, because the thing that makes Michael great is his own style and his own originality". I think it's safe to say he knows what he's talking about.
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midnightmover said:

Michael is a great dancer and his dancing did evolve, but after awhile it became repetitive and over polished and once something becomes over-polished it looks contrived and devoid of funk and sass, which Michael use to have an abundance of. That's why I prefer the Don't Blame it On th Boogie video to the Do You Remember the Time video. Sure it's amateurish and cheap compared to all-star, big budgeted video of Do You Remember the Time, but there is something organic and funky about it that Do You Remember the Time lacks.

And MJ took alot from Bob Fosse. This clip from 1971 illustrates this very clearly;
http://uk.youtube.com/wat...8mJsgPj1iU
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skyecute said:

Skyecute - Hey, the feeling is mutual. Why so much hate for MJ at the org?? Madonna too. Downplay everything Mike's done. And even what he HASN'T DONE, lol - and that's the scary part, lol.

mrsnet said:

I don't think people here hate MJ, in fact the majority seem to love his pre-Bad stuff and the great Jacksons albums he made with his brothers. I think a lot of people are just angry, disappointed and sad with what he has let himself become.