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savoirfaire said: rebelsoldier said: Why did I bother, the beatles, U2 and Led Zep as overepresented, as usual. Only one album from Stevie, Jimi and Radiohead. Nothing from P-FUNK, Sly (Riot is at least top 5) or James Brown.  I agree with your highlights completely. Not only are they not top 200 material, many of them aren't even mediocre.
I agree, this list blows. Nothing from James Brown?!?! Also should be a couple Zappas on there , and.... well, screw it -- this list is terrible. Definitive 200? Please. Yes, there should be. and while we're at it, Talking Heads Remain In Light anyone? "Hyperactive when I was small, Hyperactive now I'm grown, Hyperactive 'till I'm dead and gone"
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lilgish said:[quote]http://www.rockhall.com/pressroom/definitive-200
These choices are grounds to put the RRHOF into receivership for rank incompetence. 21. SHANIA TWAIN – COME ON OVER
37. SOUNDTRACK – GREASE 57. 50 CENT – GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN’ 76. FAITH HILL – BREATHE 67. USHER – CONFESSIONS 68. KID ROCK – DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE 84. LINKIN PARK – HYBRID THEORY 94. NELLY – COUNTRY GRAMMAR 95. CREED – HUMAN CLAY 154. WILL SMITH – BIG WILLIE STYLE 97. CELINE DION – FALLING INTO YOU 105. TLC – CRAZYSEXYCOOL 127. CHRISTINA AGUILERA – CHRISTINA AGUILERA 128. JAY-Z – THE BLUEPRINT 129. ALICIA KEYS – DIARY OF ALICIA KEYS 135. LIONEL RICHIE – CAN’T SLOW DOWN 145. TONI BRAXTON – TONI BRAXTON 159. BOYZ II MEN – COOLEYHIGHHARMONY 162. AVRIL LAVIGNE – LET GO 172. SHAKIRA – LAUNDRY SERVICE 183. BEYONCE – DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE 189. JAY-Z – IN MY LIFETIME VOL 1 199. OUTKAST – AQUEMINI Many of these albums are good. But too high. But any list with Will Smith, Celine Dion, Linkin Park, Faith Hill, Shania Twain and Kid Rock among "definitive" Rock Albums? Really? And honestly, Jay-Z has 3 different albums on the list, WITHOUT Reasonable Doubt among them Biggie on the list for Life After Death? OutKast with 2? No room for De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest or Run-DMC? Who did they turn to for the hip-hop selections? A 15-year old? Get a clue, RRHOF. [Edited 7/23/07 8:42am] Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I learned a long time ago that when magazines or institutions publish lists like this, you should just stop, look, then walk away laughing like it was a joke or something.
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savoirfaire said: Also should be a couple Zappas on there, and.... well, screw it -- this list is terrible. Definitive 200? Please.
Agreed. No Zappa. This list blows big time. | |
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guitarslinger44 said: I learned a long time ago that when magazines or institutions publish lists like this, you should just stop, look, then walk away laughing like it was a joke or something.
If not, you end up with blood shooting out your nose because you thought about it too hard. Points well made and well taken. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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guitarslinger44 said: I learned a long time ago that when magazines or institutions publish lists like this, you should just stop, look, then walk away laughing like it was a joke or something.
If not, you end up with blood shooting out your nose because you thought about it too hard. That's what I'm screaming. Once I saw it didn't have Innervisions, that was it for me. I can't believe there are so many replies (as I make another one).  "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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OK, I'll throw some eggs:
1.) OK, so Usher's "Confessions" (No. 67) is listed, but not Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel?" Brown made it fashionable for urban styles to be popular with the MTV crowd -- if it wasn't for him, Usher wouldn't appeal to white fans without selling out. 2.) Madonna's "Like a Virgin" clocks in at No. 164 -- and that's her only album on the list? So not only did none of her other very successful, daring albums make it ("True Blue," "Erotica," etc.), but MADONNA has the same number of albums listed as NELLY?!? 3.) Meanwhile, Anita Baker has two albums -- "Rapture" is deservedly listed (but only at No. 184?), but the woefully average "Rhythm of Love" (No. 188) shouldn't come anywhere near this list. 4.) C'mon, Michael Jackson's "Dangerous" at No. 115? Not, say, Mary J. Blige's "My Life?" 5.) And let me make sure I get this right: * The soundtracks for "Dirty Dancing" (No. 99) and "Forrest Gump" (No. 173) are "definitive;" * Shakira's "Laundry Service" (No. 172) is "definitive;" * 50 Cent's "Get Rich or Die Trying" (No. 57) and Will Smith's "Big Willie Style" (No. 154) are "definitive;" BUT NOT Stevie Wonder's "Music of My Mind," "Talking Book," "Innervisions" and/or "Fulfillingness' First Finale?" That's BULLSHIT. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: OK, I'll throw some eggs:
1.) OK, so Usher's "Confessions" (No. 67) is listed, but not Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel?" Brown made it fashionable for urban styles to be popular with the MTV crowd -- if it wasn't for him, Usher wouldn't appeal to white fans without selling out. 2.) Madonna's "Like a Virgin" clocks in at No. 164 -- and that's her only album on the list? So not only did none of her other very successful, daring albums make it ("True Blue," "Erotica," etc.), but MADONNA has the same number of albums listed as NELLY?!? 3.) Meanwhile, Anita Baker has two albums -- "Rapture" is deservedly listed (but only at No. 184?), but the woefully average "Rhythm of Love" (No. 188) shouldn't come anywhere near this list. 4.) C'mon, Michael Jackson's "Dangerous" at No. 115? Not, say, Mary J. Blige's "My Life?" 5.) And let me make sure I get this right: * The soundtracks for "Dirty Dancing" (No. 99) and "Forrest Gump" (No. 173) are "definitive;" * Shakira's "Laundry Service" (No. 172) is "definitive;" * 50 Cent's "Get Rich or Die Trying" (No. 57) and Will Smith's "Big Willie Style" (No. 154) are "definitive;" BUT NOT Stevie Wonder's "Music of My Mind," "Talking Book," "Innervisions" and/or "Fulfillingness' First Finale?" That's BULLSHIT. Pretty much, that list is all f*cked up. What does the Hall of Fame committee of voters think they are? | |
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Timmy84 said: Pretty much, that list is all f*cked up. What does the Hall of Fame committee of voters think they are?
I feel that thinkgroups shouldn't come up with such lists because not only is someone is going to be left off, but when there are obvious missteps it makes the group look incompetent. THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: Timmy84 said: Pretty much, that list is all f*cked up. What does the Hall of Fame committee of voters think they are?
I feel that thinkgroups shouldn't come up with such lists because not only is someone is going to be left off, but when there are obvious missteps it makes the group look incompetent. Yep, it's their fault though. They had a chance to prove they were different and they give us the same jive as before adding more bullshit to lists. That's the way they run unfortunately. | |
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And to make it worse, you can't fault the group for being totally ignorant to one genre or subgenre of U.S. music. Madonna has only one album listed and it's not even in the top 150. [Edited 7/24/07 20:44pm] THE TRAFFIC JAMMERS, The Org's house band: VAINANDY -- lead singer; NAJEE -- bass; THE AUDIENCE -- guitar; PHUNKDADDY -- rhythm guitar; ALEX de PARIS -- keyboards; Da PRETTYMAN -- keyboards; FUNKENSTEIN -- drums. HOLD ON TO YOUR DRAWERS! |
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Najee said: And to make it worse, you can't fault the group for being totally ignorant to one genre or subgenre of U.S. music. Madonna has only one album listed and it's not even in the top 150.
[Edited 7/24/07 20:44pm] Exactly. That's just the way it goes. | |
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