EmbattledWarrior said:

Actually, I was a Michael Jackson/Jackson 5 fan in the 1970s and early 1980s (which means I'm likely older than you). The problem with zealots like you is that you think that this zany, sad caricature of a person MJ has turned into is something he's always been.

Only a zealot would not see the contradiction in a black man who has made himself resemble a Caucasian-looking man (or worse, a Caucasian-looking woman) and has done other things to disassociate with being called black, but yet makes a video trying to appeal to the injustices inflicted on black people (presumably by white people and white society).

Najee said:

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Najee said:

yah yah

pplrain said:

Apparently, the same person who said you were sworn in to defend Michael Jackson. You apparently felt compelled to respond to a post that was a general comment, addressed to no one in particular.

The point about the Lisa Marie Presley and Debbie Rowe references is that this version of the video "They Really Don't Care about Us" came out between the time of the end of his marriage to Presley and his marriage to Rowe -- which means during the making of his "pro-black man against the white system" video MJ was in transition between personal relationships with two white women. Yet another contradiction, IMO.
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EmbattledWarrior said:

It's ironic, because you're discussing and defending a video that was made, what, 13 years ago? Just like Michael Jackson himself, you're also living in the past.

Najee said:

10 years ago... But see the Videos are interesting...
You are not
Simple eh?

EmbattledWarrior said:

Actually, it's not an interesting video. In fact, it's the same heavily (if not overly) choreographed video Michael Jackson has been making since the early 1980s -- so it is not anything new, just tired. It's just as tiring as a middle-aged man turning himself into some Caucasian person (or Caucasian woman) who seems to have the emotional maturity of a child.
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Najee said:

That may be true,
it's still more interesting than you

EmbattledWarrior said:

You're right -- it's interesting to see a man who obviously has issues with race try to make a video aligning himself with the same thing from which he has distanced himself. It makes as much sense as Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donnell writing a book on how to satisfy a man in bed.

Just like it's interesting there are equally out-of-touch zealots like yourself who actually think Michael Jackson is above constructive criticism. I'm sorry if I didn't see the sign on the thread that said, "If you want to give MJ another blowjob, POST HERE!"
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wlcm2thdwn said:

I didn't like the song or the video

pplrain said:

Well go read up on Einstein, Mozart and other REAL geniuses. They were all thought to be insane. They do not view the world as the normal person. In actuality, they are light years above/ahead of you or/and I. Look at all MJ has done musically. He's a genius like none other.

In defence of MJ, no one knows him until they have walked this earth in his shoes and accomplished what he has. So far NO ONE has done that.

Despite his high public profile, celebrity and outward appearance, MJ struck me as being A GENUINELY NICE PERSON. This is for the MJ fans out there.

We are so caught up in outward appearances. Hopefully the future will allow anyone to be WHATEVER they want to be...

As always, the topic on Michael Jackson goes steadily downhill...

wlcm2thdwn said:

i like the video, it not his best but it's pretty good.i mostly like the message of the song

.....people always ruining threads
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Najee said:

You like the word Zealot don't you lol

*note to self* Don't feed the trolls.....


...make this a better place for you and for me....

I wish I had this version on DVD - it is my favorite song and video from HIStory


HOOOOO

Cinnie said:

I have a brillaint video Quality of this song.....If you want it..

About song? Its a easliy the most powerful political song ever written and composed.....Timeless.

Thaty version of the video is better than the Brazil version, this video suits the that type of song more.
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seeingvoices12 said:

you don't know What's Going On or Get Up Stand Up do you?

gee there is such thing as loving mj from 1970 to 83 AND the work after. I may have not been around in the 70's, but I really appreciate his work from then and I dont' mean the 4 number one hit singles, I mean all the motown work

MJ's been white skinned since 1986, get over it!

LightOfArt said:

more like dark brown, like someone of hispanic or south asian descent

alphastreet said:

well yes. but you know what i'm trying to say. OLD NEWS!

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

jn2 said:

Or Happy Xmas(War Is Over), or Biko, or...

Thats my opinion, for me its the strongest political song i have ever heard, I will stick to what I have said, Melodically its a genius composition.....and timeless tune.

seeingvoices12 said:

thats going a tad far with that
I will admit the drum line is great, extremely original, The arrangement is great and can't be really defined by genre...
But i'll draw the line at timeless

ProgRocker said:

Or Blowin' In The Wind, We Shall Overcome, The Times They Are A Changin', With God On Our Side, Masters Of War, Living For The City, or...

Scratch We Shall Overcome. That song always sent me to sleep. Still, on marches you'll hear it a lot more than "Jew me, sue me, Kick me, kike me".
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