skyecute said: illimack said: Actually in the pic she looks like Debbie Allen. But in other pics, she does look like her father, who is SIGMUND ESCO.....i.e. JACKIE JACKSON. I no longer doubt that Janet may have a daughter after all the lies that she has told and secrets that she has kept, but Autumn is not her daughter. She belongs to Jackie and she is not adopted. Autumn is Jermaine's daughter with Hazel Gordy. Bradi (the young lady in the photo) is Jackie's adopted daughter. Siggy is Jackie's biological son. [Edited 7/21/07 10:24am] [Edited 7/21/07 10:28am] You're right about the name. My bad. However, according to all the books that I have read, it' the son, Siggy, that's adopted, not Brandi. Just look at her. She looks just like all the rest of the Jacksons...except for the mini Debbi Allen pic. I'm not all too sure that its' her. But if you look at the 2300 Jackson St video, it's obvious that she is a Jackson. She looks just like a little light skinned version of Janet. Oh shit! I just realized what I alway thought.....She looks just like a little light skinned version of Janet I always thought she was light because her mother is mixed. But if the books that I read were wrong, and it's Brandi that is adopted and not Siggy, then it's obvious that someone is lying, because Brandi is obviously a Jackson and not adopted. **************************************************
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This is a photo of Brandi from the 2300 Jackson St video. This child is obviously a Jackson. So either I'm right about her being Jackie's biological daughter and Siggy is the one who is adopted, or if Jackie is trying to pass her off as the one being adopted, he is not telling the truth. **************************************************
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illimack said: This child is obviously a Jackson. So either I'm right about her being Jackie's biological daughter and Siggy is the one who is adopted, or if Jackie is trying to pass her off as the one being adopted, he is not telling the truth.
...unless she was "adopted" from Janet. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: illimack said: This child is obviously a Jackson. So either I'm right about her being Jackie's biological daughter and Siggy is the one who is adopted, or if Jackie is trying to pass her off as the one being adopted, he is not telling the truth.
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Cinnie said: AlexdeParis said: ...unless she was "adopted" from Janet. Ya'll are a trip. I think she looks like a Jackson because she's Jackie's daughter. I think that people got it mixed up about Jackie's adopted child. I used to follow the family closely in my younger years. I remeber reading that Jackie had an adopted son because in my young mind, I wondered why he would name an adopted son after him when it wasn't "really" his son. I know it was a fucked up thing to think, but I was in my early teens when I read it. Now my ass is old. [Edited 7/21/07 11:15am] **************************************************
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I thought we ended this debate...
Im janet's secret daugher..... so lets stop talking about my mom | |
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I don't believe this never did. theres's just too much involved in having baby, doctors, nurses and that's just birth. plus the birth certifiacant ( which is wheather easy to get a hold of) all you have to do is go to vital statics. and if she adopted there would adoption papers. either way I am sure there would be a paper trail.
If they can finnd out Jack Nickholson sister was really his mother than I am sure somebody would have found this out by now an produce some real evdivence . especially after Janet hid her marriage, ome reporter would have looked at this too. I do believe however that James said that Janet did have abortion (which believe more than Janet actually having a child hiding somewhwere | |
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alphastreet said: they claimed the baby was born in 1987, how the hell was that possible when you all were old enough to experience control in 1986?
Janet and James DeBarge were married in 1984 and the marriage was anulled supposedly in 1985. I have seen people claim the baby was born in 87 but that is wrong. When she played Cleo on Fame, she left the show because she was pregnant. The very last episode she was on shows her boarding a bus with an obviously swollen belly. That was in 1985. I will never forget that eposide because she was clearly CLEARLY pregnant. There was a photo of her and James DeBarge that same year in Right On Magazine that was captioned: "And baby makes three." That pretty much talked about they were preparing for the impending arrival. Then we didn't hear anymore about it. She had a baby y'all in 1985. No doubt. James DeBarge's mom said that gal was pregnant. | |
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krayzie said: mimi07 said: i think she was adopted... well that's what i've heard [Edited 7/20/07 22:17pm] A child adopted that looks like Janet JAckson and JAmes DeBarge, what a coincidence. she was adopted before janet's "secret" daughter was supposedly born [Edited 7/21/07 15:22pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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shortstuff45220 said: I don't believe this never did. theres's just too much involved in having baby, doctors, nurses and that's just birth. plus the birth certifiacant ( which is wheather easy to get a hold of) all you have to do is go to vital statics. and if she adopted there would adoption papers. either way I am sure there would be a paper trail.
If they can finnd out Jack Nickholson sister was really his mother than I am sure somebody would have found this out by now an produce some real evdivence . especially after Janet hid her marriage, ome reporter would have looked at this too. I do believe however that James said that Janet did have abortion (which believe more than Janet actually having a child hiding somewhwere Agree. If it were true someone would have come up with irrefutable proof by now, there are too many people involve when you have a baby, and you know how money talk, someone would have spoken out and given proof by now. But whatever you believe her daughter isn't Brandi, she is too old to be her daughter if she did indeed give birth around 85/86. | |
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alwayslate said: alphastreet said: they claimed the baby was born in 1987, how the hell was that possible when you all were old enough to experience control in 1986?
Janet and James DeBarge were married in 1984 and the marriage was anulled supposedly in 1985. I have seen people claim the baby was born in 87 but that is wrong. When she played Cleo on Fame, she left the show because she was pregnant. The very last episode she was on shows her boarding a bus with an obviously swollen belly. That was in 1985. I will never forget that eposide because she was clearly CLEARLY pregnant. There was a photo of her and James DeBarge that same year in Right On Magazine that was captioned: "And baby makes three." That pretty much talked about they were preparing for the impending arrival. Then we didn't hear anymore about it. She had a baby y'all in 1985. No doubt. James DeBarge's mom said that gal was pregnant. I always hear about that frigging issue of Right On! magazine but how come no one on the entire Internet has any frigging scans? | |
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whatsgoingon said: krayzie said: What tells you she was born in 1982. That's very easy to pass a girl born in 1984 for a girl born in 1982. Girl tends to age faster. History does. Go and look up Jackie and his late wife history and I am sure you will find out when their son and daughter were born. [Edited 7/21/07 4:28am] I'm talkin about real OFFICIAL proofs. Not what the Jacksons want you to believe. That's easy to pass a girl born in 1984 for a girl born in 1982. Girls grow faster than boys. | |
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illimack said: CalhounSq said: So who would have been the father for her to get that nose? I think y'all are forgetting what the REAL Jackson nose looks like That is Jackie's natural daughter. Her mother, Enid, is half black/half korean. It is Jackie's son, Siggie Jr., that is adopted. I was born and raised on the Jackson family and know way too much information. Impossible. Siggie looks just like his mother. He's got the same eyes and eye brows. And also got the same long chin. look at his chin. He got the same jaw lines. That's so ovbious that Siggie is the real son. Brandi, I don't think so. [Edited 7/21/07 16:07pm] | |
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AlexdeParis said: illimack said: This child is obviously a Jackson. So either I'm right about her being Jackie's biological daughter and Siggy is the one who is adopted, or if Jackie is trying to pass her off as the one being adopted, he is not telling the truth.
...unless she was "adopted" from Janet. Makes sense to me Smooches;) [Edited 7/21/07 16:33pm] | |
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Cinnie said: alwayslate said: Janet and James DeBarge were married in 1984 and the marriage was anulled supposedly in 1985. I have seen people claim the baby was born in 87 but that is wrong. When she played Cleo on Fame, she left the show because she was pregnant. The very last episode she was on shows her boarding a bus with an obviously swollen belly. That was in 1985. I will never forget that eposide because she was clearly CLEARLY pregnant. There was a photo of her and James DeBarge that same year in Right On Magazine that was captioned: "And baby makes three." That pretty much talked about they were preparing for the impending arrival. Then we didn't hear anymore about it. She had a baby y'all in 1985. No doubt. James DeBarge's mom said that gal was pregnant. I always hear about that frigging issue of Right On! magazine but how come no one on the entire Internet has any frigging scans? I wish we did have someone who has the issues still to scan them. And Siggie is indeed Jackie's child. Jackie's ex-wife, the late Enid Spann was half black and half Asian and Siggie's got his momma's eyes. Brandi looks like Janet spit her out. | |
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where I'm at they show rereuns of fame all the time, and the few times I did catch janet, she looked unusually chubby and much older than she was, especially in her stomach area. If this was all true, I don't believe the child would have been born in 86, 87, but more like 84 or 85, which is the time she was on fame anyways. She did ask to be let out of her fame contract before it was up anyways, it could have very well been for maternity leave, we don't know for sure. I'm a huge jacksons fan but even I don't believe everything they say anymore. [Edited 7/21/07 17:49pm] | |
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The photo that was shown in that Right On magazine article was the black & white pic on this page. For some reason I cannot copy the pic here.
Here is the page: http://www.geocities.com/...janet.html I wish someone had a copy of that magazine. | |
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Siggy is fine as hell. | |
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Militant said: badujunkie said: The book also claims Janet pulled out a can of whoop ass on her father's mistress when she was a teen. That is true. I think Mike was there too. Supposedly Janet and some others kicked that girls ass. The Jacksons are mad ghetto. Just listen to randy and janet argue on the michael demos. [Edited 7/21/07 19:35pm] | |
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So, Randy and Jermaine have children by the same lady???
So their kids a siblings and cousins No wonder they are all screwed up Smooches;) | |
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Fury said: janet's daughter, Noxeema Jackson
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meow85 said: Fury said: janet's daughter, Noxeema Jackson
But didn't Miss Noxy says she was Jesse's daughter? Space for sale... | |
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krayzie said: illimack said: That is Jackie's natural daughter. Her mother, Enid, is half black/half korean. It is Jackie's son, Siggie Jr., that is adopted. I was born and raised on the Jackson family and know way too much information. Impossible. Siggie looks just like his mother. He's got the same eyes and eye brows. And also got the same long chin. look at his chin. He got the same jaw lines. That's so ovbious that Siggie is the real son. Brandi, I don't think so. [Edited 7/21/07 16:07pm] I actually agree that Siggy does not look adopted, although I think that he looks more like Jackie than Enid. But I know that I read in one of those J. Randi Toraborelli books, however the hell U say his name, that Jackie's son was adopted. Whether or not Siggy was adopted..... Brandi is obviously a Jackson by birth. I'm no longer so sure about who she belongs to, but she ain't adopted from outside of the family. **************************************************
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illimack said: krayzie said: Impossible. Siggie looks just like his mother. He's got the same eyes and eye brows. And also got the same long chin. look at his chin. He got the same jaw lines. That's so ovbious that Siggie is the real son. Brandi, I don't think so. [Edited 7/21/07 16:07pm] I actually agree that Siggy does not look adopted, although I think that he looks more like Jackie than Enid. But I know that I read in one of those J. Randi Toraborelli books, however the hell U say his name, that Jackie's son was adopted. Whether or not Siggy was adopted..... Brandi is obviously a Jackson by birth. I'm no longer so sure about who she belongs to, but she ain't adopted from outside of the family. I don't know how you can tie Siggie with Jackie... I don't see no resemblance whatsoever, I still say he looks like his moms. Brandi looks like Janet spit her out, I keep telling you that. | |
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lilgish said: Militant said: That is true. I think Mike was there too. Supposedly Janet and some others kicked that girls ass. The Jacksons are mad ghetto. Just listen to randy and janet argue on the michael demos. [Edited 7/21/07 19:35pm] michael was laughing in the background too when janet was trying to defend him.... randy felt stupid because janet was right, that's why he told her to shut up "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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siggy is not adopted, he looks just like his daddy with asian eyes, brandy is suppose to be jackie's adopted daughter but i believe she is his real child and he convinced his 'wife' to adopt her, (she may even be his and paula abdul's child, she was spose to have had an abortion back in the day way before the control days). janet was clearly pregnant at one point and james even admitted it, i think she got an abortion, she is naturally thick so of course she would blow up after being pregnant.also, jackson or not this child's father would have still had rights as a parent, and their marriage was annulled, a judge cant annull a marriage if there is a child or expectant child involved. | |
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mimi07 said: lilgish said: The Jacksons are mad ghetto. Just listen to randy and janet argue on the michael demos. [Edited 7/21/07 19:35pm] michael was laughing in the background too when janet was trying to defend him.... randy felt stupid because janet was right, that's why he told her to shut up i thought i heard janet curse in that part! | |
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Cinnie said: mimi07 said: michael was laughing in the background too when janet was trying to defend him.... randy felt stupid because janet was right, that's why he told her to shut up i thought i heard janet curse in that part! I don't think she did though I couldn't quite figure out what in fact they were saying other than Randy trying to tell Mike to turn down his headphones, Janet telling him he's trying and then Randy going "shut up" after Janet yells at him. But all the other dialogue between them seems lost. It sounds like Janet is saying "look, don't talk to me" to Randy while Randy mumbles something and Michael vocalizing at the end trying to pretend not to hear them. And was Mike just MUMBLING on both the "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" and "Working Day & Night" demos? He was like "mmm...mmm... you got me working day and night... mmm....mmm, you got me working day and night"... I mean it'll be kinda similar to how Stevie and Marvin would do it but doggone, lol, when Mike does it I find myself laughing. | |
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look at that chin... maybe jacko didn't do his chin... Rethinks... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: look at that chin... maybe jacko didn't do his chin... Rethinks... No, I think Mike did. Siggy's chin just awkwardly looks like Michael's (now)... or maybe he had surgery too... who knows with the Jacksons? I got no problems with them wanting to do surgery, though it's unnatural. He don't look like Jackie to me, he got his mama's eyes because he's half-Asian. But he is definitely Jackie's son though. Actually his father's chin is similar to his, so maybe we can't relate Mike to Siggie... As for Siggie's album? I don't think it's coming out anytime soon. I saw the Jackson Family Database website and it said he had prepared to release it in 2003 or something... Well it's 2007, we haven't heard nothing and it seems like Siggie has just settle as being a celebrity relative. But what I can't understand is how do so many of them (Jacksons) promise albums and don't produce anything? We're still waiting for a J5 reunion, Jermaine. Jackie and Jermaine and Tito were supposed to be working on solo albums, who knows with Randy, La Toya's still trying to release that "Together" or whatever it's called album for ten years now, Michael's going house-hunting and is presumably "done" with the album though it could come out next year and he doesn't have a label. Right now the only Jackson making music buzz/news is Janet. Austin Brown (Rebbie's son) is also supposed to come out with something this year too presumably. [Edited 7/22/07 1:00am] | |
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