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L.A Reid keeping JD away from Janets album? *article inside*

Sounds like Jd's pissed, sounds like they are trying o keep him off Janets album,he and L.A Reid are going to fight out with these two albums, are they feuding or is part of plan from promoting both these records, I see a duet for sure.


New Mariah, Janet Albums To Compete?
Janet Jackson has followed her boyfriend Jermaine Dupri from Virgin to Island Def Jam, Billboard has learned. "She's on Island, but it's more or less [Def Jam CEO Antonio "L.A." Reid's] project," Dupri says. "I let him deal with that on a day-to-day basis. He's going to A&R that project, too. Janet's record is one that he's wanted to do for a long time. He's very passionate about it.

Jackson's departure from Virgin comes in the wake of two consecutive commercial disappointments: 2004's "Damita Jo" and last year's "20 Y.O." Her departure from the label was widely rumored after Dupri exited the company late last year to become president of Island Urban.

As for the direction of Jackson's as-yet-untitled album, Dupri says, "I don't really know what he's got in mind at this point. His past record isn't shabby so I'm going to let him do what he's going to do. I'm going to do [the new] Mariah [Carey album], and we're going to make it seem like we're in competition to see who's going to have the biggest album of the year."

There is no release date yet for the Jackson album, although rumors suggest it may be ready before the end of the year.
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Reply #1 posted 07/13/07 4:03pm

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well hot damn i just might buy it for his shut out alone. lol
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/07 4:20pm

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Best news I've heard so far.

BTW, those two commercial disappointments Billboard pointed out have scanned almost a combined 1.7 million in the USA.
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Reply #3 posted 07/13/07 4:21pm

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It's about time someone wised up and got Dupree out of Janet's creative process. I have hope 4 the record now.
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/07 4:22pm

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We'll at least L.A Ried knows a good song when he hears it, I think he probably gets Janet more as an artist and what works best for her than anyone she's worked with in last few years, especially JD or any executive at Virgin, He'll make sure they dont forget to add a "song" to the tracks this time around.
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Reply #5 posted 07/13/07 4:26pm

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i remember when Reid was officially announced to be the man behind the Mimi project i couldn't feel my feet, esp. after he fucked up TLC lol

low expectations could be positive sometimes
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PricelessHo said:

i remember when Reid was officially announced to be the man behind the Mimi project i couldn't feel my feet, esp. after he fucked up TLC lol

low expectations could be positive sometimes
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He did an excellent job with supervising and guiding Mariah's Mimi, but he totally hit rock bottom with Whitney's 'Just Whitney', TLC, Toni Braxton, and a few others. I wonder if Janet is going to have the same success Mariah had in 2005-2006, if Reid is going to control this project. I hope the record is a big return to form and can put Janet back on the top of the pop and R&B scene (even though MTV might not get involved!)
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Wait...what's going on? L.A Reid? Is she offically done with Virgin yet? If so, smart considering what they did with the last two albums. There is almost a pattern with them in both the case of DJ and 20YO.

Release one single waaay too early (in the case of "Just A Little While", hide the video and let it die on radio after intial interest).

Barely any videos/singles compared to the past (2.5 for DJ and only 2 for 20YO!).

No tour (That's Janet's deal, really)

No effort to revive the disc....let fans get all hyped up over rumours of a rerelease.


JD has to go. DJ was a good but unfocused disc with misteps. 20YO was a mostly bland diaster.

BTW, not sure if this has been discussed already but what is with the recent weight gain. It's getting very unhealthy. Two words...Luther Vandross!
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Reply #8 posted 07/13/07 4:44pm

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PRAISE THE LORD!!!!

I hope Janet asked LA to keep JD away!!

BEST NEWS OUT OF THE JANET CAMP YET!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 07/13/07 4:50pm

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Interesting. But I don't like this competition thing they're doing. Why must Janet's CD be measured against Mimi? They're two female artists that happen to have JD in common. And please don't force them to do that damn duet JD keeps pushing for.
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Reply #10 posted 07/13/07 4:56pm

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JackieBlue said:

Interesting. But I don't like this competition thing they're doing. Why must Janet's CD be measured against Mimi?


just like Clive has been doing with Whitney's supposedly new album.

They really should stop doing those silly X vs Y thing 'cause once the album flops the artist is going to be the one who really pays the price.
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Reply #11 posted 07/13/07 4:59pm

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VinnyM27 said:

Wait...what's going on? L.A Reid? Is she offically done with Virgin yet? If so, smart considering what they did with the last two albums. There is almost a pattern with them in both the case of DJ and 20YO.

Release one single waaay too early (in the case of "Just A Little While", hide the video and let it die on radio after intial interest).

Barely any videos/singles compared to the past (2.5 for DJ and only 2 for 20YO!).

No tour (That's Janet's deal, really)

No effort to revive the disc....let fans get all hyped up over rumours of a rerelease.


JD has to go. DJ was a good but unfocused disc with misteps. 20YO was a mostly bland diaster.

BTW, not sure if this has been discussed already but what is with the recent weight gain. It's getting very unhealthy. Two words...Luther Vandross!


I would have to agree with most of what you stated! The lack of touring really killed the hype of both Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. Janet really didn't fit the production of some of JD's productions, especially on the 20 YO project. MTV and VH1 rarely mention either DJ nor 20 YO (probably because of the Nipplegate situation at the Superbowl.) I still predict that Janet might have a "sleeper hit" on her hands next year. She is also starring in Tyler Perry next film, "Why Did I Get Married? with a leading role this year, so that might push her new album more and if she tours, releases some good singles and does at least four videos, she will go right back into orbit.
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Reply #12 posted 07/13/07 5:21pm

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silverchild said:

VinnyM27 said:

Wait...what's going on? L.A Reid? Is she offically done with Virgin yet? If so, smart considering what they did with the last two albums. There is almost a pattern with them in both the case of DJ and 20YO.

Release one single waaay too early (in the case of "Just A Little While", hide the video and let it die on radio after intial interest).

Barely any videos/singles compared to the past (2.5 for DJ and only 2 for 20YO!).

No tour (That's Janet's deal, really)

No effort to revive the disc....let fans get all hyped up over rumours of a rerelease.


JD has to go. DJ was a good but unfocused disc with misteps. 20YO was a mostly bland diaster.

BTW, not sure if this has been discussed already but what is with the recent weight gain. It's getting very unhealthy. Two words...Luther Vandross!


I would have to agree with most of what you stated! The lack of touring really killed the hype of both Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. Janet really didn't fit the production of some of JD's productions, especially on the 20 YO project. MTV and VH1 rarely mention either DJ nor 20 YO (probably because of the Nipplegate situation at the Superbowl.) I still predict that Janet might have a "sleeper hit" on her hands next year. She is also starring in Tyler Perry next film, "Why Did I Get Married? with a leading role this year, so that might push her new album more and if she tours, releases some good singles and does at least four videos, she will go right back into orbit.



Agree...and I think she really needs to stop focusing on competing with today's pop artists and just it happen organically and make a great album. Find her own niche so to speak...Mary J and Mariah found their space and they've been quite successful. I always felt Janet feels she has to up against the pop artists of the day...she's done that...move away from that and give us the great album we've been waiting for!
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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

silverchild said:



I would have to agree with most of what you stated! The lack of touring really killed the hype of both Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. Janet really didn't fit the production of some of JD's productions, especially on the 20 YO project. MTV and VH1 rarely mention either DJ nor 20 YO (probably because of the Nipplegate situation at the Superbowl.) I still predict that Janet might have a "sleeper hit" on her hands next year. She is also starring in Tyler Perry next film, "Why Did I Get Married? with a leading role this year, so that might push her new album more and if she tours, releases some good singles and does at least four videos, she will go right back into orbit.



Agree...and I think she really needs to stop focusing on competing with today's pop artists and just it happen organically and make a great album. Find her own niche so to speak...Mary J and Mariah found their space and they've been quite successful. I always felt Janet feels she has to up against the pop artists of the day...she's done that...move away from that and give us the great album we've been waiting for!



Yeah, it's like she bared her soul so deep with her 1997 classic, 'The Velvet Rope' (which I still claim as her best record.) and then four years later, she came back with 2001's 'All For You' and it made her look and sound like a MTV or Britney Spears prototype. Although that album did have its great moments, the album really didn't stand up that well as a whole to me. Now, Damita Jo was a great album IMHO and it really didn't have many songs that sounded "poppish". I don't really get why alot of critics and fans thought it was just a "sleazy porn movie laid to wax". Sure Damita Jo had freaky nature in most of it's parts, but sounded urban and contemporary too, and I guess that's why I like it more than AFY and 20 YO combined. 20 YO had its moments, but some of the material failed to have that fire and classic Janet sound it was hyped up to have. Dupri didn't screw that one up too bad IMHO, but I guess he didn't make his promise too well. I just hope with her new album, she and her collaborators can wipe the slate clean and come out with a whole new, fresh batch of ideas (instead of rehashing the stuff she has done previously or the sleaze material of 1993's 'janet.')
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Reply #14 posted 07/13/07 6:44pm

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I want Janet to shock people the next time she releases an album. And that would mean she'll have to stay away from the sex stuff to a minimum.
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Reply #15 posted 07/13/07 8:07pm

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VinnyM27 said:

Wait...what's going on? L.A Reid? Is she offically done with Virgin yet? If so, smart considering what they did with the last two albums. There is almost a pattern with them in both the case of DJ and 20YO.

Release one single waaay too early (in the case of "Just A Little While", hide the video and let it die on radio after intial interest).

Barely any videos/singles compared to the past (2.5 for DJ and only 2 for 20YO!).

No tour (That's Janet's deal, really)

No effort to revive the disc....let fans get all hyped up over rumours of a rerelease.


JD has to go. DJ was a good but unfocused disc with misteps. 20YO was a mostly bland diaster.

BTW, not sure if this has been discussed already but what is with the recent weight gain. It's getting very unhealthy. Two words...Luther Vandross!




She'll be thin again once "Why Did I Get Married" is out in November...
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/07 9:19pm

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poor janet just doesnt know what she wants
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/07 9:21pm

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velvet rope part II is needed. bring back rene, jam, lewis, and q tip as the producers.
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/07 9:37pm

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Timmy84 said:

I want Janet to shock people the next time she releases an album. And that would mean she'll have to stay away from the sex stuff to a minimum.


I want Latoya Jackson to shock people with her new album.
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Reply #19 posted 07/13/07 9:42pm

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Krytonite said:

Timmy84 said:

I want Janet to shock people the next time she releases an album. And that would mean she'll have to stay away from the sex stuff to a minimum.


I want Latoya Jackson to shock people with her new album.



The difference between Mariah and Janet is Doug Morris. Doug is over Universal and over LA and he along with Lyor brought her to Universal. And, he's the one that still believed in her after Charmbracelet. Doug has to be behind this if it's going to do what Mariah's last album did. And, so far we haven't even heard his name mentioned.
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Reply #20 posted 07/13/07 9:46pm

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Whens the tour?
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Reply #21 posted 07/13/07 10:52pm

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PRAISE GOD FOR LA REID!
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Reply #22 posted 07/14/07 4:50am

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PRAISE GOD FOR LA REID!


YES someone i trust LA will do a good job biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 07/14/07 8:28am

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la reid may have had a hard time with tlc, toni braxton and whitney, but this was way back in 2002 when music was in a slump, and he was fine once mariah came back so I think he can help janet. He won't let her get away with soft singing and repetitive topics
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Reply #24 posted 07/14/07 9:31am

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L.A. Reid is gonna steer Janet in the same boring,predictable R&B direction that her midget boyfriend would.He's gonna pair her up with the same,tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with....he's gonna have Jay-Z rap over a track or two....he's gonna make sure her CD is filled with midtempo "urban" grooves that go absolutely nowhere.
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Reply #25 posted 07/14/07 9:41am

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SoulAlive said:

L.A. Reid is gonna steer Janet in the same boring,predictable R&B direction that her midget boyfriend would.He's gonna pair her up with the same,tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with....he's gonna have Jay-Z rap over a track or two....he's gonna make sure her CD is filled with midtempo "urban" grooves that go absolutely nowhere.

Probably true.....but anything is an improvement over Jd.
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Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

L.A. Reid is gonna steer Janet in the same boring,predictable R&B direction that her midget boyfriend would.He's gonna pair her up with the same,tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with....he's gonna have Jay-Z rap over a track or two....he's gonna make sure her CD is filled with midtempo "urban" grooves that go absolutely nowhere.

Probably true.....but anything is an improvement over Jd.

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Reply #27 posted 07/14/07 9:57am

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honestly, if this album doesn't have excellent tracks, she might as well focus on movies and acting instead because I think that's where her heart might be now.
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Reply #28 posted 07/14/07 10:36am

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SoulAlive said:

L.A. Reid is gonna steer Janet in the same boring,predictable R&B direction that her midget boyfriend would.He's gonna pair her up with the same,tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with....he's gonna have Jay-Z rap over a track or two....he's gonna make sure her CD is filled with midtempo "urban" grooves that go absolutely nowhere.



there's nothing wrong with a good Rnb album. obviously you don't like rnb. Janet has always had rnb albums expect for maybe all for you. that's the music gener she does. nothing wrong with that. did anyboy ever tell Luther, Arthea, and ect to stop making "boring " rnb albums . as long as the music is good I don't see the problem.
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honestly, if this album doesn't have excellent tracks, she might as well focus on movies and acting instead because I think that's where her heart might be now.



Correct me if iam wrong but didn't she say that acting comes before singing.
And her father wanted her to be a singer, while she wanted to to act and become a jocky.
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