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prettymansson said: Funkmeimfamous said: I adore both men but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this (They are my #1 and #2 artists respectively). I think they excell in different. Not to downplay Stevie's extraordinary natural ability but he was schooled by the best in the business - the rhythmic geniuses of Jamerson on bass and Benjamin on drums, the melodic powerhouses of Holland-Dozier-Holland, and the lyrical majesty of Smokey Robinson. Then you have Earl Van Dyke on keys who Stevie credits as his mentor on the instrument. He also took lessons at USC to strengthen his songwriting and composing prowess. So the genius Stevie of the 70s was the backend of a lot of tlc from those that loved and cared for him at Motown. Prince on the otherhand, made his own way musically to a greater degree IMO. But at their respective heights, these two gentleman produced some of THE most genius musical works of the 20th century. 
[Edited 7/17/07 23:31pm] Prince admitted on the Larry king interview that he patterned himself on Stevie when he was trying to get out there...we already know about graham and sly and jimi..I think Prince had more than enough "Help"  Being influenced is one thing, being physically taught is another IMO. Jamerson, Benjamin, Van Dyke etc, use to sit with Stevie for hours on end teaching him skills. He also use to listen in on most of the sessions so he had a very good idea of how songs came together. Despite their influences, they are both straight-up originals though. Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016 | |
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Funkmeimfamous said: prettymansson said: Prince admitted on the Larry king interview that he patterned himself on Stevie when he was trying to get out there...we already know about graham and sly and jimi..I think Prince had more than enough "Help" Being influenced is one thing, being physically taught is another IMO. Jamerson, Benjamin, Van Dyke etc, use to sit with Stevie for hours on end teaching him skills. He also use to listen in on most of the sessions so he had a very good idea of how songs came together. Despite their influences, they are both straight-up originals though. Stevie came to Motown already knowing how to play his instruments... A prodigy in fact.... Of course, he was taught the skills of how to work a recording studio and such. And so was Prince... | |
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funkpill said: Funkmeimfamous said: Being influenced is one thing, being physically taught is another IMO. Jamerson, Benjamin, Van Dyke etc, use to sit with Stevie for hours on end teaching him skills. He also use to listen in on most of the sessions so he had a very good idea of how songs came together. Despite their influences, they are both straight-up originals though. Stevie came to Motown already knowing how to play his instruments... A prodigy in fact.... Of course, he was taught the skills of how to work a recording studio and such. And so was Prince... I still beg to differ. I'm in regular contact with a former engineer at Motown, who grew up in Detroit with all the original artists/writers/musicians at Motown and he's offered me great insight into some of the happenings at Motown. Stevie was very much a prodigy, but that was primarily on keys and harmonica. Benny Benjamin and James Jamerson respectively spent alot of time with him, teaching him a great deal about rhythm. Earl Van Dyke on keys, who is flat-out one of the greatest musicians that no one knows about much like the rest of the Funk Brothers, also mentored on the instrument. Now I don't want to downplay Stevie's talent whatsoever.... there's also his groundbreaking work with synthersisers which he is solely responsible for. I just think as far as finding his own way as a musician, Stevie wouldn't be Stevie without the selfless effort of the greatest session band of all time. [Edited 7/19/07 8:20am] Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016 | |
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Funkmeimfamous said: funkpill said: Stevie came to Motown already knowing how to play his instruments... A prodigy in fact.... Of course, he was taught the skills of how to work a recording studio and such. And so was Prince... I still beg to differ. I'm in regular contact with a former engineer at Motown, who grew up in Detroit with all the original artists/writers/musicians at Motown and he's offered me great insight into some of the happenings at Motown. Stevie was very much a prodigy, but that was primarily on keys and harmonica. Benny Benjamin and James Jamerson respectively spent alot of time with him, teaching him a great deal about rhythm. Earl Van Dyke on keys, who is flat-out one of the greatest musicians that no one knows about much like the rest of the Funk Brothers, also mentored on the instrument. Now I don't want to downplay Stevie's talent whatsoever.... there's also his groundbreaking work with synthersisers which he is solely responsible for. I just think as far as finding his own way as a musician, Stevie wouldn't be Stevie without the selfless effort of the greatest session band of all time. [Edited 7/19/07 8:20am] okay..granted And Prince was a prodigy also... But Pepe Willie also stated that he mentored Prince in the studio. And Chris Moon too... He had to LEARN the ropes from somebody... But no ones gonna believe that because its...Prince 
Dang!!! I think he build Warner Bros. too Brick by brick 
But just like Stevie, he had help from someone to enhance his craft..  | |
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