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Reply #90 posted 07/14/07 8:51am

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I'm confused - is THIS a John Mayer thread?? confused
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Reply #91 posted 07/14/07 8:57am

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laurarichardson said:

You are not worth the time. I'll rip you a new asshole but, your a moron who does not understand the concept of the dozens.

You need to go find a hobby and keep your comments about RnB and funk to yourself
Since you don't anything about that either.

Now go find more stupid ass pictures to post on the board. Go on before you mom starts calling you to dinner.
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oh come on laura...you can do better then that! i'll tell you what...i'll give you an hour to come up with a competent response.


i can't wait for your kinda, sorta...not really witty response.

pray



oh...your getting better. i love how you start off with a declaration and how your imbalance leads you to contradict it in the following sentence. its just soo fascinating...you would make an awesome research subject.

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Reply #92 posted 07/14/07 9:01am

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DAMN!! Come on what's wrong with Luther!!
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Reply #93 posted 07/14/07 9:21am

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laurarichardson said:

You are not worth the time. I'll rip you a new asshole but, your a moron who does not understand the concept of the dozens.

You need to go find a hobby and keep your comments about RnB and funk to yourself
Since you don't anything about that either.

Now go find more stupid ass pictures to post on the board. Go on before you mom starts calling you to dinner.
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sosgemini said:

oh come on laura...you can do better then that! i'll tell you what...i'll give you an hour to come up with a competent response.


i can't wait for your kinda, sorta...not really witty response.

pray


whofarted
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Reply #94 posted 07/14/07 9:24am

SoulAlive

jaimestarr79 said:

I needed to get this off of my chest. I hate Luther Vandross Music, I don't have a problem with him! I have a problem with him being labeled as a Master of the love ballad. I don't have a problem with him being gay. I have a problem with him portraying himself as a ladies man in all of his videos. It was obvious that he was gay. But you always seen him in romantic situations with women in the videos. I remember back in the day, if someone mentioned that he might be gay people were about ready to fight you lol . It was funny how people who were homophobes loved Luther and they swore up and down that he was straight.

At least George Michael gave us obvious clues that he was gay. Remember when he used to wear those booty shorts. I swear I seen him kiss Andrew Ridgley once in a video.

Like I stated I don't have a problem with him being gay, but I didn't like the way he was portrayed.


In the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not accepted.Seriously...how many openly gay R&B artists can you name? What would happen if one of them were to announce that they are gay? What if Luther had "came out" in the 80s,at the height of his popularity? You can bet that his popularity would have disappeared.It's unfair,but that's how it is.

Things are different in the pop world.Elton John announed that he was gay in 1976,and he's had numerous hits since then.The pop crowd is more tolerable and open-minded.
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Reply #95 posted 07/14/07 9:29am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

laurarichardson said:

You are not worth the time. I'll rip you a new asshole but, your a moron who does not understand the concept of the dozens.

You need to go find a hobby and keep your comments about RnB and funk to yourself
Since you don't anything about that either.

Now go find more stupid ass pictures to post on the board. Go on before you mom starts calling you to dinner.
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whofarted



you think thats crazy...you should see the orgnotes i get from her. nuts
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Reply #96 posted 07/14/07 9:44am

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sosgemini said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:



whofarted



you think thats crazy...you should see the orgnotes i get from her. nuts

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Reply #97 posted 07/14/07 9:46am

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SoulAlive said:

In the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not accepted.Seriously...how many openly gay R&B artists can you name?

Other than Meshell Ndegeocello and Queen Pen, I can't think of any current (or recent) artists.
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Reply #98 posted 07/14/07 9:59am

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ill That guy is in desperate need of dentures. ill
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Reply #99 posted 07/14/07 11:08am

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It's BY not BUY you retard. Another Org idiot with too much time on there hands.
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Reply #100 posted 07/14/07 12:15pm

Ottensen

psychodelicide said:

BSK3478 said:

know what? i think their funk card's actually counterfeit and not the real deal.

when'd they start making & selling fake funk cards on the org? mad


When people sign up on the org, we need to do a mandatory funk card check before they're allowed to be a member. giggle


agreed:lol:
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Reply #101 posted 07/14/07 12:19pm

Ottensen

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Maybe Luther should have his on forum on here confused


Yup...and maybe you should go sit'cho ass down somewhere:err:

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Reply #102 posted 07/14/07 12:19pm

Ottensen

jaimestarr79 said:

Maybe Luther should have his on forum on here confused


Yup...and maybe you should go sit'cho ass down somewhere:err:

evillol
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Reply #103 posted 07/14/07 12:22pm

Ottensen

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walks into thread...
sees Luther being disrespected...
laughs at the destruction of the credibility of the poster...
walks out of thread...

[Edited 7/13/07 17:06pm]


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...and theeerrre ya have it, folks .

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Reply #104 posted 07/14/07 12:24pm

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legendofnothing said:

It's BY not BUY you retard. Another Org idiot with too much time on there hands.

hmm whistling razz
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Reply #105 posted 07/14/07 12:25pm

Ottensen

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jaimestarr79 said:

Maybe Luther should have his on forum on here confused


Yup...and maybe you should go sit'cho ass down somewhere:err:

evillol


damn. i actually meant that so much i'm going to leave the double post up!
lol
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Reply #106 posted 07/14/07 12:26pm

Anxiety

there's not enough popcorn in the world for me to get through this thread. lol
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Reply #107 posted 07/14/07 12:29pm

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Anxiety said:

there's not enough popcorn in the world for me to get through this thread. lol

evillol
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Reply #108 posted 07/14/07 12:47pm

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Anxiety said:

there's not enough popcorn in the world for me to get through this thread. lol



falloff
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Reply #109 posted 07/14/07 12:57pm

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Ottensen said:

psychodelicide said:



When people sign up on the org, we need to do a mandatory funk card check before they're allowed to be a member. giggle


agreed:lol:


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Reply #110 posted 07/14/07 1:07pm

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wouldn't say I HATE the dude. But never have and never will buy or even download his tunes for free. Just never liked his sound. Bleh...
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Reply #111 posted 07/14/07 1:12pm

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Luther wasn't out about his sexuality, and I'm guessing at least some of that might have been societal and some of it about maintaining his career. But, so what? A lot of people aren't out and don't need to be out for anyone. From an Out Magazine article:

Vandross remained defensive, and he often became combative and short-tempered on the many occasions when interviewers directly confronted him about his love life. But writer, actor, and raconteur Bruce Vilanch, who met Vandross relatively early in his career, says the singer had opened up to him when they worked together. The two met when they were both working on a Bette Midler tour in the mid ’70s: Vandross was helping the singer with her arrangements, and Vilanch was beginning his long and successful career writing patter for entertainers.

“He was way ‘in,’ ” Vilanch recalls. “He said to me, ‘No one knows I’m in the life,’ ” which is how Vandross referred to his sex life. Vilanch adds that he was one of the very few people to whom Vandross confided his true identity. “He had very few sexual contacts,” Vilanch says. “Probably when he lost some weight he felt more desirable. He stepped out and had relationships.”


I don't get why somebody's refusal or hesitation to clarify their sexuality comes up so much on a Prince site. lol As for his music - it's always hit or miss with me. He's had a lot of great music, but as a whole I prefer him as a singles artist more than an album artist. That voice, however, is undeniable.


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Reply #112 posted 07/15/07 7:45am

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SoulAlive said:

jaimestarr79 said:

I needed to get this off of my chest. I hate Luther Vandross Music, I don't have a problem with him! I have a problem with him being labeled as a Master of the love ballad. I don't have a problem with him being gay. I have a problem with him portraying himself as a ladies man in all of his videos. It was obvious that he was gay. But you always seen him in romantic situations with women in the videos. I remember back in the day, if someone mentioned that he might be gay people were about ready to fight you lol . It was funny how people who were homophobes loved Luther and they swore up and down that he was straight.

At least George Michael gave us obvious clues that he was gay. Remember when he used to wear those booty shorts. I swear I seen him kiss Andrew Ridgley once in a video.

Like I stated I don't have a problem with him being gay, but I didn't like the way he was portrayed.


In the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not accepted.Seriously...how many openly gay R&B artists can you name? What would happen if one of them were to announce that they are gay? What if Luther had "came out" in the 80s,at the height of his popularity? You can bet that his popularity would have disappeared.It's unfair,but that's how it is.

Things are different in the pop world.Elton John announed that he was gay in 1976,and he's had numerous hits since then.The pop crowd is more tolerable and open-minded.


It's all so stupid though. I mean everyone speculated about Luther's sexuality forever, or not really speculated but assumed he was gay. So what's the damn difference if he still puts out a good record? I think consumers are really dumb enough to feel some kind of shame by association or something & therefore not buy the record. It's completely fucking retarded to WANT to bury your head in the sand about an issue when what they really need to be doing is looking @ WHY they have that issue confused It's totally frustrating, the stupidity displayed regarding that.
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Reply #113 posted 07/15/07 8:19am

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sosgemini said:




just because his music is about love doesnt mean it can't be boring to some...

and sorry folks but i consider luffa to be one of the most overrated artist of all time. the man makes me zzz


omg no no no! giggle



boxed I've never really liked him either.
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Reply #114 posted 07/15/07 1:31pm

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luther songs are for grubbing at a bbq or reunion listen and eat smile
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Reply #115 posted 07/15/07 5:43pm

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pjh1972 said:

daPrettyman said:


Here's a Luther Vandross FUNKY Greatest Hits Package:
1. Shine
2. Say It Right Now
3. She Saw You
4. Never Too Much
5. She's A Super Lady
6. For The Sweetness Of Your Love
7. Nights In Harlem
8. It's Over Now
9. 'Til My Baby Comes Home
10. The Night I Fell In Love (smooth funk)
11. The Best Things In Life Are Free
12. Come Back
13. Bad Boy/Having A Party
14. Take You Out

These are what I consider Luther's funky stuff. HA!

It hurts me that people don't like Luther because of his sexuality. Besides, nothing was ever disclosed by Luther or any of his associates that he was gay. Now, it is widely assumed by some of his actions in small parties. Nothing has ever been confirmed. Luther was a smart man to keep people out of his business.

Now, he did have this "goody-too-shoes" attitude. I don't think Luther thought he was "better" than other people. He was very confident in his talent. He knew he had talent and had been blessed with a true gift. I'm sure Luther had his fair share of ups and downs (a few album flops and issues in both his business and personal life), but who hasn't?

As for his music, people think his music was boring. HOWEVER, Luther's music was definitely about LOVE! Everyone needs to know that he found his niche while doing background and recording 2 albums with a group. I really think after "A House Is Not A Home", we learned how a ballad should be done.

I wish people would respect Luther's legacy and let him rest in peace. If you don't like his music, that's fine, but dont' hate him because of a rumor about his sexuality. I highly suggest u guys read the biography written about him a few years ago, it hints at Luther's sexuality and his issues.

There is also BET's Journey's in Black dvd. It is very informative. They drill Luther on this question and others.


'Are You Using Me' from the 'I Know' album is pretty funky too.



I was just thinking "Nights In Harlem", the single, is nothing to sneeze at.
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Reply #116 posted 07/15/07 8:23pm

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there's not enough popcorn in the world for me to get through this thread. lol


Damn that!!! Have some of mine!!!



This is some funny shit! There's just really no need for US to get involved! cool
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Reply #117 posted 07/16/07 12:07am

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AlexdeParis said:

SoulAlive said:

In the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not accepted.Seriously...how many openly gay R&B artists can you name?

Other than Meshell Ndegeocello and Queen Pen, I can't think of any current (or recent) artists.


Exactly.It's easy to see why Luther remained in the closet.If he had "come out",it would have destroyed his career.
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Reply #118 posted 07/16/07 12:10am

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CalhounSq said:

SoulAlive said:



In the R&B and hip-hop world,being gay is not accepted.Seriously...how many openly gay R&B artists can you name? What would happen if one of them were to announce that they are gay? What if Luther had "came out" in the 80s,at the height of his popularity? You can bet that his popularity would have disappeared.It's unfair,but that's how it is.

Things are different in the pop world.Elton John announed that he was gay in 1976,and he's had numerous hits since then.The pop crowd is more tolerable and open-minded.


It's all so stupid though. I mean everyone speculated about Luther's sexuality forever, or not really speculated but assumed he was gay. So what's the damn difference if he still puts out a good record? I think consumers are really dumb enough to feel some kind of shame by association or something & therefore not buy the record. It's completely fucking retarded to WANT to bury your head in the sand about an issue when what they really need to be doing is looking @ WHY they have that issue confused It's totally frustrating, the stupidity displayed regarding that.



I agree nod I can't see why his sexuality would have been a big deal to R&B record buyers.That's ridiculous.Sadly,in the black community,there is alot of shame and denial associated with homosexuality.
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Reply #119 posted 07/16/07 3:34am

SoulAlive

jaimestarr79 said:

Lothan said:

Prince acts gay but he isn't.
What's your point?



I've always got criticism about being a Prince Fan. I don't care what floats his boat. Nobody knows but him. If you bring the funk I don't care. Being gay had nothing to do with me disliking his music. Saying something bad about luther, is like saying something bad about the Pope or something. I have Gay people in my family and gay co-workers. Gayness doesn't really bother me. As long as somebody is a good person I don't really give a shit. If your gay be gay, don't pretend to be something your not. That goes with everything in life. just be yourself.


Once again,I'm telling you that homosexuality isn't accepted in the R&B or hip-hop world.It's a big no-no.That's why you don't see any openly gay R&B singers.Of course,we know there are some closeted R&B singers out there,but they're not gonna say so.It would be career suicide.Look what happened to Tevin Campbell after it was discovered that he is gay.He hasn't had any more hits.His music career is basically over.These artists couldn't just "be themselves" and still enjoy a level of success.

I think Luther's stance was...."my personal life is my personal life.I don't have to discuss it with anyone".You can buy his records or not buy them,but what he did privately is none of our business.
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