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Reply #60 posted 07/31/07 10:57pm

2Jay

MADONNA

INFLUENCES
Aretha Franklin
Olivia Newton-John
Sam Cooke
Elvis
Bing Crosby
Ray Charles
Otis Redding


DISICIPLES
Britney Spears
Avril Lavigne
Hilary Duff
Rihanna
Brandy
Anastacia
Tears for Fears
Rooney
Spice Girls
[Edited 7/31/07 23:02pm]
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Reply #61 posted 07/31/07 11:10pm

2Jay

Kurtis Blow

INFLUENCES
Otis Redding
James Brown
B.B. King
Louis Armstrong
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Rick James
Isley Brothers
Prince
Michael Jackson

DISCIPLES
Treacherous Three
Will Smith
Public Enemy
X-Clan
Eric B.
Dr. Dre
Snoop Doggy Dogg
The Beastie Boys
Jungle Bros.
Run D.M.C.
Grandmaster Flash
Salt 'n' Pepa
Fearless Four
Heavy D. and the Boyz
Rakim
Color me Badd
De la Soul
Bell Biv Devoe
Ray-J
Dr. Jeykll and Mr. Hyde
Puff Daddy
Mc Hammer
TLC
T.I.
DJ Jazzy Jeff
Sir Mix-alot
Sean Paul
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Reply #62 posted 07/31/07 11:14pm

2Jay

This is the best thread ever. I wonder which legend hasn't been covered yet.
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Reply #63 posted 07/31/07 11:40pm

2Jay

BILLY JOEL

INFLUENCES
Elvis
The Beach Boys
Rolling Stones
Nat King Cole
Stevie Wonder
Marvin Gaye

DISCIPLES
The Clash
Queen
David Bowie
Justin Timberlake
Jessica Simpson
John Cougar Mellencamp
Philip Michael Thomas
Kim Wilde
Tim McGraw
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Reply #64 posted 08/01/07 6:43am

NWF

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2Jay said:

BILLY JOEL

INFLUENCES
Elvis
The Beach Boys
Rolling Stones
Nat King Cole
Stevie Wonder
Marvin Gaye

DISCIPLES
The Clash
Queen
David Bowie
Justin Timberlake
Jessica Simpson
John Cougar Mellencamp
Philip Michael Thomas
Kim Wilde
Tim McGraw


Really? hmmm The Clash? Are you sure?
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Reply #65 posted 08/01/07 10:21am

heartbeatocean

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NWF said:

Another favorite of mine. The baddest, zaniest, funkiest, rockingest bunch of California white guys:



INFLUENCES

Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
P-Funk
Sly Stone
Run DMC
The Beatles
Gang of Four
Iggy Pop
Miles Davis
Bad Brains
The Minutemen
Talking Heads
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5
Black Flag
Stevie Wonder

DISCIPLES

Rage Against The Machine
311
No Doubt
Korn
Faith No More (I'm open for debate on this)
Butthole Surfers
Insane Clown Posse
Limp Bizkit
moe.
The Bloodhound Gang
Primus
Fefe Dobson
Sugar Ray


fantastic thread, but can you put the band name under the photos please? biggrin I'm starting to get brain strain.
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Reply #66 posted 08/01/07 10:31am

NWF

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heartbeatocean said:

NWF said:

Another favorite of mine. The baddest, zaniest, funkiest, rockingest bunch of California white guys:



INFLUENCES

Jimi Hendrix
Led Zeppelin
P-Funk
Sly Stone
Run DMC
The Beatles
Gang of Four
Iggy Pop
Miles Davis
Bad Brains
The Minutemen
Talking Heads
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 5
Black Flag
Stevie Wonder

DISCIPLES

Rage Against The Machine
311
No Doubt
Korn
Faith No More (I'm open for debate on this)
Butthole Surfers
Insane Clown Posse
Limp Bizkit
moe.
The Bloodhound Gang
Primus
Fefe Dobson
Sugar Ray


fantastic thread, but can you put the band name under the photos please? biggrin I'm starting to get brain strain.


Oh come on, you mean to tell me you don't recognize that pic of the Red Hot Chili Peppers? lol
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Reply #67 posted 08/01/07 6:56pm

Najee

Cool thread. I also like the pictures being posted; some of those I've not quite seen before.

AL GREEN



INFLUENCES:

* Sam Cooke
* Otis Redding
* Jackie Wilson

DISCIPLES:

* Babyface
* Al B. Sure!
* D'Angelo
* Anthony Hamilton
* Terence Trent D'Arby
* mid-1970s Marvin Gaye
* The Isley Brothers
* Hall & Oates
* Seal
* Teddy Pendergrass

I'm sure there a few more who can be added to the list.

[Edited 8/1/07 18:59pm]
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Reply #68 posted 08/01/07 11:42pm

Timmy84



JACKIE WILSON

INFLUENCES
Clyde McPhatter
Ray Charles
Roy Brown
Sam Cooke
Little Richard

DISCIPLES
James Brown
Joe Tex
The Isley Brothers
Elvis Presley
Al Green
Wilson Pickett
Sam & Dave
Ben E. King
Rita Coolidge
Prince
Michael Jackson
Motown Records
Terence Trent D'Arby
Etta James
The Chi-Lites
Gladys Knight & the Pips
Ryan Shaw
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Reply #69 posted 08/01/07 11:52pm

Timmy84



SAM COOKE

INFLUENCES
The Soul Stirrers
Mahalia Jackson
Ray Charles
Bob Dylan

DISCIPLES
Jackie Wilson
James Brown
Marvin Gaye
Otis Redding
Bobby Womack
The Isley Brothers
Aretha Franklin
Al Green
Michael Jackson
Curtis Mayfield
Etta James
R. Kelly
Chris Brown (apparently the guy's a fan)
The Temptations
The Four Tops
The Supremes
Roy Ayers (loved his version of "You Send Me")
The Beatles
Rod Stewart
Smokey Robinson
Lou Rawls
Natalie Cole
Stevie Wonder
D'Angelo
Tank
Ryan Shaw
The O'Jays
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Reply #70 posted 08/02/07 6:45am

NWF

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And of course, there's the superheroes of the New Wave era:



INFLUENCES

Roxy Music
Japan
Chic
David Bowie
Kraftwerk
Sex Pistols
Ultravox
Simple Minds
Gary Numan
Blondie


DISCIPLES

a-Ha
The Killers
Talk Talk
The Blow Monkeys
The Bravery
Franz Ferdinand
Hot Hot Heat
Ima Robot
Scissor Sisters
The Deftones
Of Montreal
Goldfrapp
Animotion
VHS or Beta
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Reply #71 posted 08/02/07 1:28pm

heartbeatocean

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NWF said:

heartbeatocean said:



fantastic thread, but can you put the band name under the photos please? biggrin I'm starting to get brain strain.


Oh come on, you mean to tell me you don't recognize that pic of the Red Hot Chili Peppers? lol

boxed It's best to assume nothing.
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Reply #72 posted 08/02/07 3:03pm

2Jay

THE JACKSON 5, or JACKSONS

INFLUENCES]
Ray Charles
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder

DISCIPLES
Prince
Maroon 5
Duran Duran
David Bowie
Whitney Houston
New Edition
Will Smith
LL Cool J
Tevin Campbell

off the top of my head. theres probably dozens more. (Give me some.)
[Edited 8/2/07 15:04pm]
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Reply #73 posted 08/02/07 3:10pm

sextonseven

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NWF said:

heartbeatocean said:



fantastic thread, but can you put the band name under the photos please? biggrin I'm starting to get brain strain.


Oh come on, you mean to tell me you don't recognize that pic of the Red Hot Chili Peppers? lol


You should label them all. I'm sure a few people are looking at that Specials pic and thinking confuse
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Reply #74 posted 08/02/07 3:45pm

dancerella

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dancerella said:



and then:

Grace Jones' masculine attire, height (5' 10½" (1.79 m)) and manner was a clear influence on the 'power dressing' movement of the 1980s, and on musical artists such as Annie Lennox of Eurythmics and Claudie Fritsch-Mentrop of Desireless.




yay! so i was right? biggrin
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Reply #75 posted 08/02/07 4:31pm

2Jay

QUEEN

INFLUENCES
the Beatles
The Beach Boys
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis
David Bowie
The Rolling Stones

RIVALS
U2
The Rolling Stones

DISCIPLES
The Police
New Kids on the Block
Vanilla Ice
David Bowie
Bowling for Soup
Keane
Queens of the Stone Age
Avril Lavigne
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Reply #76 posted 08/02/07 7:06pm

2Jay

LITTLE RICHARD

INFLUENCES
Ray Charles
Etta James
Ella Fitzgerald
Billie Holliday

DISCIPLES
Michael Jackson
Prince
Seal
Luther Vandross
David Bowie
James Brown
Isley Brothers
The Temptations
Queen
U2

and many more...
[Edited 8/2/07 19:08pm]
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Reply #77 posted 08/02/07 7:13pm

2Jay

THE ROLLING STONES

INFLUENCES
The Beatles
Elvis
James Brown
Scott Byrd

DISCIPLES
Red Hot Chili Peppers
U2
Black Eyed Peas
Prince
The Backstreet Boys
Justin Timberlake

many more i'm sure, but i'm tired.
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Reply #78 posted 08/02/07 11:59pm

Timmy84

2Jay said:

THE JACKSON 5, or JACKSONS

INFLUENCES]
Ray Charles
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder

DISCIPLES
Prince
Maroon 5
Duran Duran
David Bowie
Whitney Houston
New Edition
Will Smith
LL Cool J
Tevin Campbell

off the top of my head. theres probably dozens more. (Give me some.)
[Edited 8/2/07 15:04pm]


Dude, go to page 2, the Jackson 5/Jacksons have already been posted, man. lol
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Reply #79 posted 08/03/07 11:33am

ejnbmore

NWF said:

Pick your favorite artist and let us know who their infleunced them. It could be anyone. Who influences them musically, aesthetically, etc. Also, who are the people that look up to this artist and carry out their torch?

Let's start with the main man:





INFLUENCES
James Brown
Jimi Hendrix
Sly Stone
Little Richard
The Beatles
Ohio Players
Carlos Santana
Joni Mitchell
George Clinton
Stevie Wonder
David Bowie


DISCIPLES
Sananda Maitreya
Lenny Kravitz
Outkast
D'Angelo
Beck
Georgio
Ready For The World
Basement Jaxx
Bilal
Chocolate Genius
Jamie Lidell
Har Mar Superstar
Jesse Johnson
Cody Chesnutt
Of Montreal
Kelis
The Nep2nes
Van Hunt
[Edited 7/17/07 5:59am]


I would add Maxwell, Robin Thicke, and Timbaland.
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Reply #80 posted 08/03/07 12:31pm

Miles

2Jay said:

MADONNA

INFLUENCES
Aretha Franklin
Olivia Newton-John
Sam Cooke
Elvis
Bing Crosby
Ray Charles
Otis Redding


DISICIPLES
Britney Spears
Avril Lavigne
Hilary Duff
Rihanna
Brandy
Anastacia
Tears for Fears
Rooney
Spice Girls
[Edited 7/31/07 23:02pm]


Very surprised Blondie/ Debbie Harry isn't listed here as a major influence on Madonna.

I'd also add Marilyn Monroe (as singer and icon), and maybe David Bowie (chameleonic pop star). Also maybe Mae West and Marlene Dietrich image-influence wise, among other old time movie icons. smile
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Reply #81 posted 08/14/07 12:46pm

NWF

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Timmy84 said:



STEVIE WONDER

INFLUENCES
Ray Charles
B.B. King
Sam Cooke
The Drifters
Marvin Gaye
Curtis Mayfield
Sly Stone
Bob Marley

DISCIPLES
Donny Hathaway
George Benson
The Isley Brothers
P-Funk
Michael Jackson
Billy Preston
The Red Hot Chili Peppers
Carl Carlton
Prince
Lenny Kravitz
Mariah Carey
Janet Jackson
R. Kelly
Tony, Toni, Tone/Raphael Saadiq
D'Angelo
Chaka Khan
Brian McKnight
After 7
The Roots
India.Arie
Erkyah Badu
Whitney Houston
Jill Scott
...and many more I reckon, smile



You forgot about this guy. lol

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Reply #82 posted 08/14/07 12:58pm

Timmy84

NWF said:

Timmy84 said:



STEVIE WONDER

INFLUENCES
Ray Charles
B.B. King
Sam Cooke
The Drifters
Marvin Gaye
Curtis Mayfield
Sly Stone
Bob Marley

DISCIPLES
Donny Hathaway
George Benson
The Isley Brothers
P-Funk
Michael Jackson
Billy Preston
The Red Hot Chili Peppers
Carl Carlton
Prince
Lenny Kravitz
Mariah Carey
Janet Jackson
R. Kelly
Tony, Toni, Tone/Raphael Saadiq
D'Angelo
Chaka Khan
Brian McKnight
After 7
The Roots
India.Arie
Erkyah Badu
Whitney Houston
Jill Scott
...and many more I reckon, smile



You forgot about this guy. lol



falloff

Oh I forgot Stevie played a pivotal role in Jason Kay's career too. lol Thanks. smile
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Reply #83 posted 08/14/07 1:32pm

SirPsycho

Timmy84 said:

NWF said:




You forgot about this guy. lol



falloff

Oh I forgot Stevie played a pivotal role in Jason Kay's career too. lol Thanks. smile


and u forgot the beatles as a stevie influence
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Reply #84 posted 08/14/07 2:26pm

Timmy84

SirPsycho said:

Timmy84 said:



falloff

Oh I forgot Stevie played a pivotal role in Jason Kay's career too. lol Thanks. smile


and u forgot the beatles as a stevie influence


In my best Steve Martin voice: "well excuuuuussssseeeee me!!!" lol
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Reply #85 posted 08/15/07 3:47pm

NWF

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From CBGB's to MTV, they were one of the best and innovative artists of the New Wave era.




INFLUENCES

Roxy Music
David Bowie
Television
The Beatles
P-Funk
James Brown
Brian Eno
The Modern Lovers
The Velvet Underground
Joy Division
Fela Kuti
Patti Smith


DISCIPLES

Modest Mouse
Franz Ferdinand
stellatarr*
The Arcade Fire
The Dismemberment Plan
Ween
The Suburbs
Q & Not U
Simple Minds
The Dead Milkmen
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Primus
Radiohead
They Might Be Giants
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
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Reply #86 posted 08/16/07 10:22am

BeneHaze

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NWF said:

How about the forerunners of the British Ska craze in the early 80's?




INFLUENCES

Prince Buster
The Skatalites
Bob Marley
The Clash
Desmond Dekker
The Beatles
Toots and the Maytals
The Sex Pistols
John Barry
Jimmy Cliff
Rico Rodriguez

DISCIPLES

The Toasters
Operation Ivy
No Doubt
Fishbone
The Untouchables
The Might Mighty Bosstones
Rancid
The Dead 60's
Sublime
Reel Big Fish
The Suicide Machines
Smash Mouth
The Scofflaws
The Slackers


Another 2 add 2 the disciples..... AMY WINEHOUSE , who has apparently recorded an albums worth of covers.
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Reply #87 posted 08/16/07 10:24am

BeneHaze

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NWF said:

Who said this thread should stop? wink

I forgot to mention Ireland's greatest Rock band:





INFLUENCES

The Clash
The Sex Pistols
Bruce Springsteen
Television
Gang of 4
Bob Dylan
David Bowie
The Beatles
Thin Lizzy
The Doors
The Velvet Underground
Johnny Cash
Joy Division
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Neil Diamond (they admitted to being big fans lol)



DISCIPLES

Coldplay
Remy Zero
The Alarm
The Call
Midnight Oil
Radiohead
The Bravery
The Fever
Elefant
The Verve
Bloc Party
The Stone Roses
The Killers
Secret Machines
[Edited 8/1/07 6:41am]



Ireland's greatest rock band?? if u mean now then ok but ever, i can't look past the mighty Thin Lizzy
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Reply #88 posted 08/18/07 10:35am

heartbeatocean

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Miles said:

2Jay said:

MADONNA

INFLUENCES
Aretha Franklin
Olivia Newton-John
Sam Cooke
Elvis
Bing Crosby
Ray Charles
Otis Redding


DISICIPLES
Britney Spears
Avril Lavigne
Hilary Duff
Rihanna
Brandy
Anastacia
Tears for Fears
Rooney
Spice Girls
[Edited 7/31/07 23:02pm]


Very surprised Blondie/ Debbie Harry isn't listed here as a major influence on Madonna.

I'd also add Marilyn Monroe (as singer and icon), and maybe David Bowie (chameleonic pop star). Also maybe Mae West and Marlene Dietrich image-influence wise, among other old time movie icons. smile


That's a really good point about Bowie. They both are performance artists, character driven, who moved into movie acting, and whose work are both majorly influenced by musical theater.

I think Bette Davis (and others) could be added to the mix as well. DEFINITELY Marlene Dietrich. Watch old Marlene movies and Madonna is nothing but a mirror of that.
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Reply #89 posted 08/18/07 1:14pm

Miles

heartbeatocean said:

Miles said:



Very surprised Blondie/ Debbie Harry isn't listed here as a major influence on Madonna.

I'd also add Marilyn Monroe (as singer and icon), and maybe David Bowie (chameleonic pop star). Also maybe Mae West and Marlene Dietrich image-influence wise, among other old time movie icons. smile


That's a really good point about Bowie. They both are performance artists, character driven, who moved into movie acting, and whose work are both majorly influenced by musical theater.

I think Bette Davis (and others) could be added to the mix as well. DEFINITELY Marlene Dietrich. Watch old Marlene movies and Madonna is nothing but a mirror of that.


To qualify the Bowie thing, I'd say that Bowie 'played' at being a 'chameleonic' rock star (which is a wrong term really, as Bowie says; a chameleon is a reptile which changes its colours to blend into with its surroundings smile) and being 'superficial' on purpose, often in an ironic way. Bowie also has an awareness of the meaninglessness of so many pop song lyrics, and so played with randomness and 'cut-ups' of lyrics in a William S. Burroughs kind of way.

This is what makes him imo far more sophisticated than Madonna (and Prince too really, in image/ icon terms, but that would another discussion), who just took someone else's image, say Marilyn, Marlene Dietrich or Bette Davis (especially in her late '80s- early '90s videos) and basically imitated them, adding nothing but trashy sex images, no extra layers of irony or wierdness as Bowie did.

As you say, Madonna was little more than a 'mirror' to some of the old film idols, while Bowie as say, Ziggy Stardust, was more of a warped reflection/ amalgamation of everyone from Elvis, Lennon, Marc Bolan etc, making his own creation.

So, while I like some of Madonna's stuff (espec. her '80s-early '90s 'prime'), I'd call her second rate next to a pretty great songwriter, musical innovator and icon like Bowie. smile

Bowie has been much imitated over the years, by everyone from Gary Numan to Annie Lennox to the risible Marilyn Manson, but none of these had that sense of 'Bowie detachment' that Bowie assumed from the events he was supposed to participating in as a character in his songs/ performances.

To the extent I care about Madonna these days, I do wish she'd stop releasing such awful generic dance records and do something a bit more interesting and playful, like some of her early '90s stuff, but new. biggrin
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