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Reply #60 posted 07/11/07 6:37pm

squirrelscient
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uPtoWnNY said:

Timmy84 said:



nod Why don't she take more risks? confused


Yep...Janet needs to surprise us again, like she did when 'Control' first came out.


Yep most definitely I love me some pre-Janet Janet! She could work with these dudes (well maybe just Ralf and Florian now):




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Reply #61 posted 07/11/07 7:14pm

Cinnie

You must have loved "Get It Out Me" smile
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Reply #62 posted 07/11/07 7:30pm

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shes doing the opposite of wat she needs 2 do.I think that she needs 2 ONLY work with Jam and Lewis on this album and here she goes dumping them both? confused
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Reply #63 posted 07/11/07 7:59pm

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shes doing the opposite of wat she needs 2 do.I think that she needs 2 ONLY work with Jam and Lewis on this album and here she goes dumping them both? confused


you sound as crazy as those who say Michael should go back to Qunicy.

Their time together has passed.
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Reply #64 posted 07/11/07 8:19pm

Wowugotit

Janet with Jam & Lewis is sooo tired.
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Reply #65 posted 07/11/07 8:37pm

Cinnie

Wowugotit said:

Janet with Jam & Lewis is sooo tired.


ahaha i read this as

"Janet: Jam & Lewis are sooo fired"



lol
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Reply #66 posted 07/11/07 8:42pm

PleasurePrinci
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ehuffnsd said:

PleasurePrinciple said:

shes doing the opposite of wat she needs 2 do.I think that she needs 2 ONLY work with Jam and Lewis on this album and here she goes dumping them both? confused


you sound as crazy as those who say Michael should go back to Qunicy.

Their time together has passed.

dont call me crazy b/c I have an opinion that you dont agree with. confused stfu
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Reply #67 posted 07/11/07 11:57pm

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

DirtyChris said:


co-sign


nod Why don't she take more risks? confused



Janet needs to get out of her R&B comfort zone and try something new.At this point,she really has nothing to lose.
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Reply #68 posted 07/12/07 3:59am

paper

Cinnie said:

You must have loved "Get It Out Me" smile


Yeah i like that track and all the dancey
stuff on the album but thats less than half.

I really liked 'All For You' Its just so diffrent
and genres change, i wasnet expeting that from her.
It worked very well i think, in my top 10.

Damita Jo was also great, yes the tracks did not sit
well togather but the tracks were strong and it
showed that she could do alot of diffrent things.
You would not expect 'My Baby' and 'Just a Little While'
to be on the same cd would you, yet they are both great
tracks and you get the young kids listing to one track
and the adults listing the the other, not many artists can do this.

20YO sad
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Reply #69 posted 07/12/07 4:24am

DawnD

PleasurePrinciple said:

shes doing the opposite of wat she needs 2 do.I think that she needs 2 ONLY work with Jam and Lewis on this album and here she goes dumping them both? confused

I don't think that's true. But, she's not going to be able to please everyone. I guess she's at a crossroads right now. She said herself that she's loyal. I don't think she's abandoned Jam and Lewis. She simply added to the pot is all. I definitely look forward to hearing her new material and I'm quite confident that she'll strive to have music much different from that which is on radio. I remember when WHEN DOVES CRY had come out. It was dark and quiet different from ANYTHING on radio. Gosh! Those where the days. Oh, well in any event I'm definitely looking forward to what she has to offer this time. lol
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Reply #70 posted 07/12/07 6:33am

SoulAlive

MartyMcFly said:

SoulAlive said:

here's the type of album she should make:


***6 uptempo tracks produced by Dangermouse (Gorillaz producer)---these songs are in the vein of "Feels Good Inc",arguably the best single of 2005.The songs are rock/pop/dance,very dark with interesing lyrics that are deeper than the the usual sex stuff that Janet has been doing for two long now.Remember the Gorillaz' single "Dare"? Imagine Janet working a hot groove like that.

***4 slow jams produced by Robin Thicke

***3 songs with a European dance music producer---forget the boring midtempo R&B crap...Janet's longtime fans want to DANCE! How about 3 fast,relentless dance tunes that kick ass?


hmmm


Hey! Don't forget the 29 totally useless, silly and immensely irritating "interludes" fart


lol

Forget the interludes,just do a kickass 13-song album,using the producers I suggested.She could breathe life back into her career if she took my advice.
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Reply #71 posted 07/12/07 6:35am

SoulAlive

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Reply #72 posted 07/12/07 7:41am

Cinnie

SoulAlive you want EVERYONE to work with Danger Mouse lol
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Reply #73 posted 07/12/07 9:43am

SoulAlive

Cinnie said:

SoulAlive you want EVERYONE to work with Danger Mouse lol


He's a talented dude lol Gorillaz' last album and the Gnarls Barkley album are both superb....a fresh,edgy sound that Janet should be exploring.Why work with the same tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with? Take a chance on someone who can give her some fresh beats!
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Reply #74 posted 07/12/07 9:44am

alphastreet

ehuffnsd said:

All Nite is my favorite track off the last two albums and i don't believe it had J&L.

it's time for her move on.


actually that was a j&l track!
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Reply #75 posted 07/12/07 9:45am

Cinnie

SoulAlive said:

Cinnie said:

SoulAlive you want EVERYONE to work with Danger Mouse lol


He's a talented dude lol Gorillaz' last album and the Gnarls Barkley album are both superb....a fresh,edgy sound that Janet should be exploring.Why work with the same tired producers that everyone else in R&B works with? Take a chance on someone who can give her some fresh beats!


hmmm That's all true! nod
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Reply #76 posted 07/12/07 9:47am

VoicesCarry

alphastreet said:

ehuffnsd said:

All Nite is my favorite track off the last two albums and i don't believe it had J&L.

it's time for her move on.


actually that was a j&l track!


All Nite was produced by BAG & Arnthor.
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Reply #77 posted 07/12/07 9:49am

alphastreet

I could have sworn it was my jimmy and terry, but I'll have to check the credits again

if anything, jimmy and terry saved 20 Y.O. without them there would have been no enjoy, take care and daybreak(despite sounding like escapade and runaway) although get it out me was a sick jam

damita jo had strong tracks as well but some of them were too short or sounded too rushed and there were some songs that would have been better left off
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Reply #78 posted 07/12/07 9:51am

Cinnie

I wouldn't mind an uptempo track like Gorillaz "Dare" or Kylie Minogue "Sweet Music". Hell, anything with that Kurtis Blow drum loop. razz

Well, these, are, thebreaaaaaks dancing jig
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Reply #79 posted 07/12/07 9:54am

VoicesCarry

alphastreet said:

I could have sworn it was my jimmy and terry, but I'll have to check the credits again


It wasn't. They produced R&B Junkie, however. She needs to work with those Swedish dudes again.

if anything, jimmy and terry saved 20 Y.O. without them there would have been no enjoy, take care and daybreak(despite sounding like escapade and runaway) although get it out me was a sick jam


They saved it because JD, one of the the shittiest mainstream producers in history, dominated the record. Get It Out Me was hot but too short. And JD was fucking lazy, having already used that sample for LL Cool J's Control Myself in the same year.

damita jo had strong tracks as well but some of them were too short or sounded too rushed and there were some songs that would have been better left off


Damita Jo could have been a great 12-track album.
[Edited 7/12/07 9:58am]
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Reply #80 posted 07/12/07 10:03am

Cinnie

VoicesCarry said:

Get It Out Me was hot but too short. And JD was fucking lazy, having already used that sample for LL Cool J's Control Myself in the same year.


nod
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Reply #81 posted 07/12/07 10:29am

alphastreet

VoicesCarry said:

alphastreet said:

I could have sworn it was my jimmy and terry, but I'll have to check the credits again


It wasn't. They produced R&B Junkie, however. She needs to work with those Swedish dudes again.



They saved it because JD, one of the the shittiest mainstream producers in history, dominated the record. Get It Out Me was hot but too short. And JD was fucking lazy, having already used that sample for LL Cool J's Control Myself in the same year.

damita jo had strong tracks as well but some of them were too short or sounded too rushed and there were some songs that would have been better left off


Damita Jo could have been a great 12-track album.
[Edited 7/12/07 9:58am]



I agree that JD screwed up the record. His only songs I could tolerate were so excited(which took awhile to grow on me), get it out me and do it to me, the rest of his stuff was so boring and uninspired and sounded incomplete. With You was an attempt to sound like mariah but it was so annoying and redundant though it could have sounded so much better had more time and effort been put into it

slolove, truly, warmth were total fillers. I wish I'm Here, the original just a little while(love me for a little while), pops up and could this be love were much stronger tracks
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Reply #82 posted 07/12/07 10:44am

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PleasurePrinciple said:

ehuffnsd said:



you sound as crazy as those who say Michael should go back to Qunicy.

Their time together has passed.

dont call me crazy b/c I have an opinion that you dont agree with. confused stfu


i'm not calling you crazy. just your idea.
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Reply #83 posted 07/12/07 10:56am

paper

Didn't Jermaine Dupri say Damita Jo was a rubbish album,
Iam sure I read that somewhere rolleyes and look at what he produced.
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Reply #84 posted 07/12/07 11:01am

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paper said:

Didn't Jermaine Dupri say Damita Jo was a rubbish album,
Iam sure I read that somewhere rolleyes and look at what he produced.


he said it wasn't a Janet Jackson album confused he lost me with that one and he only doesn't like the album because it flopped. and he said having "just a little while for the first single made it flop ( which I agree all nite should have been first)
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Reply #85 posted 07/12/07 11:04am

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I actually think it's too early to tell if Janet isn't working with Jimmy and Terry . if LA doesn't like the new stuff he's probably gonna tell her to work with them . it would be nice if she work with someone else.
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Reply #86 posted 07/12/07 11:12am

paper

Yeah i agree too 'All Nite' wooo that was a tune.
However 'Just a little While' was good it got me into Prince.
Dallas Austin and the other producers who worked on
it must be pissed off with JD saying crap like that.

Does JD dislike 20YO that was a flop and not a good first single,
its her worst.

Télépopmusik remeber they did the intro to Damita Jo 'Looking For Love'
that was good, only if they worked on the rest of the album more.
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Reply #87 posted 07/12/07 11:15am

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SoulAlive said:

Timmy84 said:



nod Why don't she take more risks? confused



Janet needs to get out of her R&B comfort zone and try something new.At this point,she really has nothing to lose.

She does have something to lose because she is in negotiations with Def Jam and they aren't going to invest millions and get another flop cd. She has had 2 major flops in a row.

I look for Def Jam to do promotion for Janet similar to the way they did with Mariah's "Mimi" cd. They are going to have a sexy video and a solid album. I don't think LA Reid would have let 20yo come out as it was. He would have had Jermaine, Jimmy and Terry rework almost every track.
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Reply #88 posted 07/12/07 11:28am

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daPrettyman said:

SoulAlive said:




Janet needs to get out of her R&B comfort zone and try something new.At this point,she really has nothing to lose.

She does have something to lose because she is in negotiations with Def Jam and they aren't going to invest millions and get another flop cd. She has had 2 major flops in a row.

I look for Def Jam to do promotion for Janet similar to the way they did with Mariah's "Mimi" cd. They are going to have a sexy video and a solid album. I don't think LA Reid would have let 20yo come out as it was. He would have had Jermaine, Jimmy and Terry rework almost every track.


maybe 20yo was a Fuck Off album to Virgin?
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Reply #89 posted 07/12/07 1:24pm

alphastreet

paper said:

Didn't Jermaine Dupri say Damita Jo was a rubbish album,
Iam sure I read that somewhere rolleyes and look at what he produced.


not only that, he succeeded in alientating janet from her non-urban fans by saying repeatedly that she's going back to her r&b roots and made a huge deal in marketing the album to r&b/urban formats rather than mainstream when janet was always a mainstream artist

all nite would have been a better first choice as a damita jo single, but just a little while was also great and totally reminded me of prince as well
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