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Printablepaper said: VoicesCarry said: Let's just call it a day and say she's finished. How can anyone win with contemporary R&B producers, anyway? Her only chance is to make a pop album and try and win back the global market, and since she's clearly not prepared to do that, she's done. [Edited 7/11/07 5:27am] Yep I hope she scraps the tracks shes done with the RnB producers and I hope they never surface.(unlikely) She should craete a full force of dance\pop producers and create something amazing, exprimental and upbeat. My dream 10 Jimmy & Terry Dallas Austin Cathy Dennis Trevor Horn Danger Mouse Daft Punk Scott Storch (i know his a hip hop producer yet he can create pop) Moby Nile Rodgers Nellee Hooper 
Whats yours [Edited 7/11/07 6:38am] DFA - this was a rumor a few years ago and they said they wouldn't mind working with her at all. | |
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what was the rumor ?
she needs help fast [Edited 7/11/07 7:13am] [Edited 7/11/07 7:14am] | |
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paper said: Sorry what was the rumor
The rumor was Janet was collaborating with DFA on some tracks. | |
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SoulAlive said: here's the type of album she should make:
***6 uptempo tracks produced by Dangermouse (Gorillaz producer)---these songs are in the vein of "Feels Good Inc",arguably the best single of 2005.The songs are rock/pop/dance,very dark with interesing lyrics that are deeper than the the usual sex stuff that Janet has been doing for two long now.Remember the Gorillaz' single "Dare"? Imagine Janet working a hot groove like that.  That sounds perfect ***1 slow jam produced by Robin Thicke, a James Poyser track, a Raphael Saadiq. and the rest Jam and Lewis | |
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Unfortunately Janet like her brother is a 'Whoever is Hot' type of Artist when it comes 2 Collabos. She just wants 2 get those Hits..so whoever is making them...she will be cool working with 'em. [Edited 7/11/07 7:24am] | |
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We don't know if Jam and Lewis want to be apart of this project. We also don't know if they are executive producing the album with JD and pointing out producers for Janet to work with. Also, if she is going to Def Jam, LA Reid probably has in mind what he wants Janet to sound like for her new project (like he did Mariah).
Besides, Reid and Lewis and Jam are all good friends and have known and worked with each other for years. Jam and Lewis haven't produced an uptempo "hit" since "All For You". In their older age, they have written beautiful ballads and gospel songs, but the dance stuff lacks lustre. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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badujunkie said: sosgemini said: which songs not produced by them do you consider descent? Got Til It's Gone--wasn't that technically produced by J Dilla? I thought I've heard that somewhere. Come back Cinister Cee!!! I Want You--Great Song Sexhibition Pleasure Principle (I think?) U are right...."Pleasure Principle" was a Monte Moir track. Jam played keys on it, but it was written and produced by Monte. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Bishop31 said: She just wants 2 get those Hits..so whoever is making them...she will be cool working with 'em.
[Edited 7/11/07 7:24am] If only! she missed the boat with "The Neptunes" their sound when they were big was just screaming for her (00 - 04) they always seemed so destined to work together (I thought that the first time I heard Kalidescope album by Kelis) also she should have worked with Missy more another perfect match, but Missy's work never made it on to her albums, Timbaland and Janet! what happened there? didnt janet hear "One in a Million" album???? | |
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CHIC0 said: Janet, do a damn rock album already! at this point, what have you got to lose?
 Why should she make a "rock" album when her "rock" crowd tuned her away after "nipplegate"? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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SoulAlive said: here's the type of album she should make:
***6 uptempo tracks produced by Dangermouse (Gorillaz producer)---these songs are in the vein of "Feels Good Inc",arguably the best single of 2005.The songs are rock/pop/dance,very dark with interesing lyrics that are deeper than the the usual sex stuff that Janet has been doing for two long now.Remember the Gorillaz' single "Dare"? Imagine Janet working a hot groove like that. ***4 slow jams produced by Robin Thicke ***3 songs with a European dance music producer---forget the boring midtempo R&B crap...Janet's longtime fans want to DANCE! How about 3 fast,relentless dance tunes that kick ass? Hey! Don't forget the 29 totally useless, silly and immensely irritating "interludes"  | |
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daPrettyman said: CHIC0 said: Janet, do a damn rock album already! at this point, what have you got to lose?
Why should she make a "rock" album when her "rock" crowd tuned her away after "nipplegate"? She's never rock music, she made a couple rock/soul songs that crossed over. | |
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OMG, if she doesn't stop doing interludes...Why can’t someone tell her that it’s not cute anymore?
And while she’s at it, cut out the moaning too. Not sexy. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: OMG, if she doesn't stop doing interludes...Why can’t someone tell her that it’s not cute anymore?
And while she’s at it, cut out the moaning too. Not sexy. I agree. While listening to 20YO, it got so annoying listening to the interludes. I loved them on Janet and "All For You" but the rest have been a little lame. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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SoulAlive said: Janet should call up the Gorillaz' producer (Dangermouse of Gnarls Barkley) and then call up Robin Thicke for a few really good ballads.Do a few edgy dance tracks with a European producer.For once,she would make an interesting,edgy album that will take her in new directions.There really is nowhere else that Jam and Lewis could take her,musically.
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DirtyChris said: SoulAlive said: Janet should call up the Gorillaz' producer (Dangermouse of Gnarls Barkley) and then call up Robin Thicke for a few really good ballads.Do a few edgy dance tracks with a European producer.For once,she would make an interesting,edgy album that will take her in new directions.There really is nowhere else that Jam and Lewis could take her,musically.
co-sign  Why don't she take more risks? | |
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DirtyChris said: can't wait to hear
what they are cooking up for Ms. Yvette Marie Stevens They're working with Chaka! New Chaka! New Chaka!   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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SoulAlive said: here's the type of album she should make:
***6 uptempo tracks produced by Dangermouse (Gorillaz producer)---these songs are in the vein of "Feels Good Inc",arguably the best single of 2005.The songs are rock/pop/dance,very dark with interesing lyrics that are deeper than the the usual sex stuff that Janet has been doing for two long now.Remember the Gorillaz' single "Dare"? Imagine Janet working a hot groove like that. ***4 slow jams produced by Robin Thicke ***3 songs with a European dance music producer---forget the boring midtempo R&B crap...Janet's longtime fans want to DANCE! How about 3 fast,relentless dance tunes that kick ass? I'd settle for just a really good uptempo pop album with no boring ballads, no pointless interludes, no sex tracks, and no mediocre songs. But it's not going to happen. | |
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paper said: VoicesCarry said: Let's just call it a day and say she's finished. How can anyone win with contemporary R&B producers, anyway? Her only chance is to make a pop album and try and win back the global market, and since she's clearly not prepared to do that, she's done. [Edited 7/11/07 5:27am] Yep I hope she scraps the tracks shes done with the RnB producers and I hope they never surface.(unlikely) She should craete a full force of dance\pop producers and create something amazing, exprimental and upbeat. My dream 10 Jimmy & Terry Dallas Austin Cathy Dennis Trevor Horn Danger Mouse Daft Punk Scott Storch (i know his a hip hop producer yet he can create pop) Moby Nile Rodgers Nellee Hooper
Whats yours [Edited 7/11/07 6:38am] When they are done with Janet, I wish your dream 10 would move on to help Michael's album also.  Great list.
Seriously though, if this album doesn't have Jam and Lewis on it I probably will skip it. Beyond "So Excited", I thought 20YO sucked hard. If I could get a refund, except for 99 cents, for that track, I would. | |
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twink69 said: daPrettyman said: Why should she make a "rock" album when her "rock" crowd tuned her away after "nipplegate"? She's never rock music, she made a couple rock/soul songs that crossed over. and you call yourself a janet fan!  | |
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Timmy84 said: DirtyChris said: co-sign Why don't she take more risks? She's a stubborn Jackson...the older they get the more redundant they become... .... Every minute of last night is on my face today.... | |
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Timmy84 said: DirtyChris said: co-sign Why don't she take more risks? Yep...Janet needs to surprise us again, like she did when 'Control' first came out. | |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: DirtyChris said: can't wait to hear
what they are cooking up for Ms. Yvette Marie Stevens They're working with Chaka! New Chaka! New Chaka! yes lawd! 
sidebar: I see most of you guys agree "Just A Little While" is her bast track this decade nobody likes "Like You Don't Love Me"???? 
that's my knock right there!!! [Edited 7/11/07 16:49pm] because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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SoulAlive said: Raze said: Just For A Little While is the most interesting thing she's done this decade. I agree.  I thought I was the only one! As much as that song gets dissed, I think it's the shining star amid a sea of crap."Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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DirtyChris said: sidebar: I see most of you guys agree "Just A Little While" is her bast track this decade nobody likes "Like You Don't Love Me"????
that's my knock right there!!! "so fresh" | |
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VoicesCarry said: Their proteges, sounded more like Jam & Lewis on Enjoy than anything Janet has done with Jam & Lewis this decade.
I thought maybe they would be on this new list of producers... like they had finally come from under the curtain ghost-producing for Jam & Lewis. But no, they aren't listed.  | |
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For some reason I am not totally shocked that she wouldn't have Jam & Lewis on this new album. A change could be good!
I didn't mind the outside influences on her `00s albums. (Except Rockwilder's shit on All 4 U has NOT AGED WELL - hell, did it ever sound good?) | |
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I think Janet should do a quiet storm type album. Her voice is perfect for it. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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Cinnamon234 said: I think Janet should do a quiet storm type album. Her voice is perfect for it.
agreed! if the whole album could sound like "take care" that would be her best since TVR I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Cinnie said: For some reason I am not totally shocked that she wouldn't have Jam & Lewis on this new album. A change could be good!
I didn't mind the outside influences on her `00s albums. (Except Rockwilder's shit on All 4 U has NOT AGED WELL - hell, did it ever sound good?) is that u? I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Cinnie said: DirtyChris said: sidebar: I see most of you guys agree "Just A Little While" is her bast track this decade nobody likes "Like You Don't Love Me"????
that's my knock right there!!! "so fresh" agreed...like you don't love me was the shit just a little while blows I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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