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Printablekrayzie said: IAintTheOne said: That is the Most Ignorant shit i've ever heard in my entire life Nope, that's the truth, White singers never come close to black singers when it comes to soul music. Face it. I'm sorry but your Christina Aguilera, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse etc are noway near the best black soul singers. Period. what you mean "your" scuse me potnah.. but im far from a caucasian  | |
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I really enjoyed Remy Shand's debut CD 'The Way I Feel'.I really wish he could come back with some new music.His disappearance is a big mystery. | |
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karmatornado said: I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think!
Both albums are superb,but if I'm asked to pick the best one,I would choose Remy.The main reason is because his album has no hip-hop elements  It's just pure Remy all the way through.....no rappers,no hip-hop beats,no collaborations at all.
Robin's album is great,but I have to skip over the songs with Lil Wayne  and that silly Pharrell duet too.He doesn't need to be doing hip-hop. | |
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theAudience said: paligap said: Ndeed! Though even if he did come back, Taylor can't really be pigeonholed like those guys, so I doubt he'd get quite the commercial acceptance... At his New York show, Lewis effortlessly shifted through so many genres--- Soul and Funk, Progressive Rock, Power pop, Fusion -- sometimes in the same tune, lol! As well as his own music, he inserted tunes by The Edgar Winter Group, Funkadelic, Yes, Todd Rundgren, Marvin Gaye, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Mahavishnu,  !!! That's a bit too wide a range for your average young Pop/R&B fan, and not something you can just slap a "Blue-Eyed Soul" label on...But the Die-hard fans (and all the fellow musicians) in the audience were just grinning and nodding their heads...
... You're absolutely right on the pigeonhole point. I was focusing on his vocal approach as the artists named aren't in the same solar system with him musically. While his musical tracks are extremely wide ranging, his vocals usually come from a Soul base. I now have the ultimate comeback when you comment on who i've "elbowed" out here... YOU GOT TO SEE LT!!! ...Boo-yah
 That's true! The Man himself noted that no matter what else he does, his voice always brings it back to Soul....
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karmatornado said: I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think!
Some time ago I asked of my fellow orgers what the fuck happened to Remy after making such a brilliant first album "The Way I Feel". Like you said, fuck the blue eyed soul bullshit, this was just plain old fashioned good music all around. Loved it to death still play it weekly. I asked this question before and never got a response, who the fuck is Robin Thicke? Where is he from and what does he sing/croak whatever? | |
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. There was a post about Rhianna's lack of singing ability which I agreed with, and this same dude told me I felt that way because she was black. | |
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Remy verses Robin? I'll take Remy if I had to choose. Since I don't, I'll take Maxwell, Anthony Hamilton, Van Hunt, Martin Luther, Raheem DeVaughn, Dwele, Christion and many others. (I ain't even gonna mention Mint Condition) | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Since I don't, I'll take Maxwell, Anthony Hamilton, Van Hunt, Martin Luther, Raheem DeVaughn, Dwele, Christion and many others. (I ain't even gonna mention Mint Condition)
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dseann said: MuthaFunka said: This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. Don't you think that this thread itself wreaks of the imposition of race? You can't pretend this isn't a blue-eyed soul artist vs. blue-eyed soul artist thread. I understand the point you are making but also understand that this thread implies much of the same thing you claim to detest. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. Don't you think that this thread itself wreaks of the imposition of race? You can't pretend this isn't a blue-eyed soul artist vs. blue-eyed soul artist thread. I understand the point you are making but also understand that this thread implies much of the same thing you claim to detest. Precisely. Well Stated. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. Don't you think that this thread itself wreaks of the imposition of race? You can't pretend this isn't a blue-eyed soul artist vs. blue-eyed soul artist thread. I understand the point you are making but also understand that this thread implies much of the same thing you claim to detest. I don't see it that way. That both artists are white to me is pure coincidence. I enjoyed Remy's album for what it was not because of who made it or what the race of the person was who made it. I enjoyed the music and his voice in relation to the music. In fact it was very Princely at times. I wouldn't have cared if he was Cambodian. | |
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dseann said: MuthaFunka said: Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. There was a post about Rhianna's lack of singing ability which I agreed with, and this same dude told me I felt that way because she was black. Yeah I see. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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BlaqueKnight said: Remy verses Robin? I'll take Remy if I had to choose. Since I don't, I'll take Maxwell, Anthony Hamilton, Van Hunt, Martin Luther, Raheem DeVaughn, Dwele, Christion and many others. (I ain't even gonna mention Mint Condition)
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MuthaFunka said: dseann said: This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. There was a post about Rhianna's lack of singing ability which I agreed with, and this same dude told me I felt that way because she was black. Yeah I see. | |
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dseann said: BlaqueKnight said: Don't you think that this thread itself wreaks of the imposition of race? You can't pretend this isn't a blue-eyed soul artist vs. blue-eyed soul artist thread. I understand the point you are making but also understand that this thread implies much of the same thing you claim to detest. I don't see it that way. That both artists are white to me is pure coincidence. I enjoyed Remy's album for what it was not because of who made it or what the race of the person was who made it. I enjoyed the music and his voice in relation to the music. In fact it was very Princely at times. I wouldn't have cared if he was Cambodian. Okay, well then why the obscure comparison if there was no factor of race at all? I have a strict policy for respecting honesty over pretense and political correctness. Why compare Robin to an obscure, virtual one-hit wonder? Remy Shand has very little in common with Robin Thicke other than race and the fact that they both do neo-soul. Be honest here. Stevie Wonder can see why the two were compared. Its just like the Robin vs. Jon B or Justin Timberlake vs. Jon B threads. If race were truly irrelevant, then a more fitting comparison would be is Robin Thicke better than Martin Luther or Joe or Musiq Soulchild? or is Remy Shand better than D'Angelo? The comparisons would make more sense. Keep it honest, please. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, I'm just saying, let's be real about the thread. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: I don't see it that way. That both artists are white to me is pure coincidence. I enjoyed Remy's album for what it was not because of who made it or what the race of the person was who made it. I enjoyed the music and his voice in relation to the music. In fact it was very Princely at times. I wouldn't have cared if he was Cambodian. Okay, well then why the obscure comparison if there was no factor of race at all? I have a strict policy for respecting honesty over pretense and political correctness. Why compare Robin to an obscure, virtual one-hit wonder? Remy Shand has very little in common with Robin Thicke other than race and the fact that they both do neo-soul. Be honest here. Stevie Wonder can see why the two were compared. Its just like the Robin vs. Jon B or Justin Timberlake vs. Jon B threads. If race were truly irrelevant, then a more fitting comparison would be is Robin Thicke better than Martin Luther or Joe or Musiq Soulchild? or is Remy Shand better than D'Angelo? The comparisons would make more sense. Keep it honest, please. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, I'm just saying, let's be real about the thread. Well stated. | |
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dseann said: MuthaFunka said: Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. This dude seems to love imposing race into his musical discussions. I find it most annoying. There was a post about Rhianna's lack of singing ability which I agreed with, and this same dude told me I felt that way because she was black. Nope, I judge artist strictly based on talent. But there's a double standard and a different way to judge artists when it comes to soul music. And it's not just about race. I always credit to white artists when this is well deserved. |
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BlaqueKnight said: dseann said: I don't see it that way. That both artists are white to me is pure coincidence. I enjoyed Remy's album for what it was not because of who made it or what the race of the person was who made it. I enjoyed the music and his voice in relation to the music. In fact it was very Princely at times. I wouldn't have cared if he was Cambodian. Okay, well then why the obscure comparison if there was no factor of race at all? I have a strict policy for respecting honesty over pretense and political correctness. Why compare Robin to an obscure, virtual one-hit wonder? Remy Shand has very little in common with Robin Thicke other than race and the fact that they both do neo-soul. Be honest here. Stevie Wonder can see why the two were compared. Its just like the Robin vs. Jon B or Justin Timberlake vs. Jon B threads. If race were truly irrelevant, then a more fitting comparison would be is Robin Thicke better than Martin Luther or Joe or Musiq Soulchild? or is Remy Shand better than D'Angelo? The comparisons would make more sense. Keep it honest, please. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, I'm just saying, let's be real about the thread. Whats up blaque knight, I am the creator of this thread. I enjoy your opinions but I think you got this whole thing twisted and out of context. I don't feel like starting a public debate and all that stuff. I was just asking a simple question Remy or Robin. If you feeling like talking about this I would love to do so through orgnotes, Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: BlaqueKnight said: Okay, well then why the obscure comparison if there was no factor of race at all? I have a strict policy for respecting honesty over pretense and political correctness. Why compare Robin to an obscure, virtual one-hit wonder? Remy Shand has very little in common with Robin Thicke other than race and the fact that they both do neo-soul. Be honest here. Stevie Wonder can see why the two were compared. Its just like the Robin vs. Jon B or Justin Timberlake vs. Jon B threads. If race were truly irrelevant, then a more fitting comparison would be is Robin Thicke better than Martin Luther or Joe or Musiq Soulchild? or is Remy Shand better than D'Angelo? The comparisons would make more sense. Keep it honest, please. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you or anything, I'm just saying, let's be real about the thread. Whats up blaque knight, I am the creator of this thread. I enjoy your opinions but I think you got this whole thing twisted and out of context. I don't feel like starting a public debate and all that stuff. I was just asking a simple question Remy or Robin. If you feeling like talking about this I would love to do so through orgnotes, I answered the question. I don't think its out of context to "bottom line" the thread. To say race is irrelevant is simply untrue, else there would be no real basis for the comparison since Remy Shand hasn't been on the charts since when? How many years has it been now? Still, I prefer Remy because he was better live than Robin. Anything I have to say, I say in open forums. | |
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Can someone please find out what happened to Remy Shand? This is getting ridiculous.He had such a promising debut album then he just disappeared! I know a few of you on this site work in the music biz....please find out something! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: karmatornado said: Whats up blaque knight, I am the creator of this thread. I enjoy your opinions but I think you got this whole thing twisted and out of context. I don't feel like starting a public debate and all that stuff. I was just asking a simple question Remy or Robin. If you feeling like talking about this I would love to do so through orgnotes, I answered the question. I don't think its out of context to "bottom line" the thread. To say race is irrelevant is simply untrue, else there would be no real basis for the comparison since Remy Shand hasn't been on the charts since when? How many years has it been now? Still, I prefer Remy because he was better live than Robin. Anything I have to say, I say in open forums. Open up your orgnotes cause I sent you one. Well let me start with you to say race is irrelevant line. In this context it is quite irrelevant. The whole reason this thread was started in the first place was cause I was listening to Remy on a plane ride home. As far as charting and all that stuff, that is completely irrelevant. I never once brought up chart position. That is something you decided to bring up yourself. I do agree with your assesment that Remy is better live. If you want to talk in open forums that is fine. But if you go ahead and open that orgnote I sent you it will tell you a little bit about where I am coming from. Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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Karma, it would be best to post where you are coming from here.
I do understand what BK is saying. Remy and Robin aren't comparable other than being both labeled as being two blue-eyed soul artists. I think its ok to say you wanted to compare two blue eyed soul artist can go from there. As BK state...Jon B vs Justin Timberlake...same thing. If this wasn't your intent, just say why you thought comparing the two would be interesting and move on. | |
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it's funny....when I first heard "Lost Without You",I thought it was Remy Shand It sounds similiar to the songs on Remy's first album. | |
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krayzie said: MuthaFunka said: Apparently she didn't get that memo:  Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo just out of curiosity....what other White artists do you give a "black pass" to?  | |
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SoulAlive said: it's funny....when I first heard "Lost Without You",I thought it was Remy Shand
It sounds similiar to the songs on Remy's first album.are you serious? I thought a lesser Maxwell. | |
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krayzie said: IAintTheOne said: That is the Most Ignorant shit i've ever heard in my entire life Nope, that's the truth, White singers never come close to black singers when it comes to soul music. Face it. I'm sorry but your Christina Aguilera, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse etc are noway near the best black soul singers. Period. | |
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SoulAlive said: krayzie said: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo just out of curiosity....what other White artists do you give a "black pass" to? Lmao @ "Black pass" dayum | |
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IAintTheOne said: SoulAlive said: just out of curiosity....what other White artists do you give a "black pass" to? Lmao @ "Black pass" dayum it's ridiculous,I know I can't believe some people view music this way | |
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Rhondab said: SoulAlive said: it's funny....when I first heard "Lost Without You",I thought it was Remy Shand
It sounds similiar to the songs on Remy's first album.are you serious? I thought a lesser Maxwell. yeah,it does sound like something Maxwell would do I bet both he and Remy would have killed for that song,lol. | |
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SoulAlive said: IAintTheOne said: Lmao @ "Black pass" dayum it's ridiculous,I know I can't believe some people view music this wayWell music in the US was set up this way....so ppl still by into it. the US loves categories..... | |
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