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I think Remy Shand is better than Robin Thicke I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think! Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think!
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krayzie said: karmatornado said: I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think!
Remy Shand is a terrible singer. Robin isn't exactly lighting it up on stage live either. I'm talking about studio recordings. Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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Stop trying to avoid it.
Lewis Taylor rules this "category". 
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robin's stage prescense is humiliating..
- Never seen Remy Live.. But Didn't remy spend years in the studio to come out with that first album... He figured out alot of the studio tricks, but did not impress on the innovativeness... Let's take it to the Stage.. as George Clinton would say.. | |
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twistedeargasm said: robin's stage prescense is humiliating..
- Never seen Remy Live.. But Didn't remy spend years in the studio to come out with that first album... He figured out alot of the studio tricks, but did not impress on the innovativeness... Let's take it to the Stage.. as George Clinton would say.. I've actually heard Remmy Live, he's a lot better then Robin Thicke. And T.A. you are right about Lewis Taylor. But this is about Remy and Robin! lol Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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Remy has the weakest and "forced" falsetto I've ever heard. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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theAudience said: Stop trying to avoid it.
Lewis Taylor rules this "category".
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 The truth is spoken! I think if Remy had taken the keys of his songs down a bit his voice might have sounded better. He always sounded like he was singing out of his range. But yeah< i like Remy better than Robin too. | |
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I couldn't disagree more. Robin's albums are great, but I'm not a big fan of Remy. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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theAudience said: Stop trying to avoid it.
Lewis Taylor rules this "category".
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 Can we end this and any more Robin/Remy threads here. Please!  | |
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Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. | |
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i like both!!!  
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krayzie said: Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. Apparently she didn't get that memo:  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. Apparently she didn't get that memo: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo | |
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krayzie said: MuthaFunka said: Apparently she didn't get that memo: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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theAudience said: Stop trying to avoid it.
Lewis Taylor rules this "category".
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. Loot at my original post : Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent. Your Boz Scaggs, christina Aguilera, Joss Stone are exatcly what I was saying, they force their vocals to sound "black", and they over use poor melisma, and always try to imitate the african american accent.
Teena Marie is the only one acceptable. She's an exeption. Period My memo is on point. That's why I never listen to blue eyed soul singers. [Edited 7/8/07 8:34am] | |
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. Apparently she didn't get that memo:  We can't forget Lady T! | |
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MuthaFunka said: krayzie said: Nope, that's why she's an exception that confirms that memo Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Agreed. Validity of statements is everything. There are some exceptions. | |
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krayzie said: MuthaFunka said: Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. Loot at my original post : Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent. Your Boz Scaggs, christina Aguilera, Joss Stone are exatcly what I was saying, they force their vocals to sound "black", and they over use poor melisma, and always try to imitate the african american accent.
Teena Marie is the only one acceptable. She's an exeption. Period My memo is on point. That's why I never listen to blue eyed soul singers. [Edited 7/8/07 8:34am] Then why did you change from your original post to simply "White singers"? And you can't know much about soul music if you think Scaggs, Stone, and Agilera don't sound "soulful". nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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krayzie said: Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. That is the Most Ignorant shit i've ever heard in my entire life | |
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IAintTheOne said: krayzie said: Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent.
White singers don't sound natural when it comes to soul music. That is the Most Ignorant shit i've ever heard in my entire life Nope, that's the truth, White singers never come close to black singers when it comes to soul music. Face it. I'm sorry but your Christina Aguilera, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse etc are noway near the best black soul singers. Period. | |
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manki said: theAudience said: Stop trying to avoid it.
Lewis Taylor rules this "category".
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 My thoughts exactly! /peace Manki Ndeed! Though even if he did come back, Taylor can't really be pigeonholed like those guys, so I doubt he'd get quite the commercial acceptance... At his New York show, Lewis effortlessly shifted through so many genres--- Soul and Funk, Progressive Rock, Power pop, Fusion -- sometimes in the same tune, lol! As well as his own music, he inserted tunes by The Edgar Winter Group, Funkadelic, Yes, Todd Rundgren, Marvin Gaye, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Mahavishnu,  !!! That's a bit too wide a range for your average young Pop/R&B fan, and not something you can just slap a "Blue-Eyed Soul" label on...But the Die-hard fans (and all the fellow musicians) in the audience were just grinning and nodding their heads...
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paligap said: manki said: My thoughts exactly! /peace Manki Ndeed! Though even if he did come back, Taylor can't really be pigeonholed like those guys, so I doubt he'd get quite the commercial acceptance... At his New York show, Lewis effortlessly shifted through so many genres--- Soul and Funk, Progressive Rock, Power pop, Fusion -- sometimes in the same tune, lol! As well as his own music, he inserted tunes by The Edgar Winter Group, Funkadelic, Yes, Todd Rundgren, Marvin Gaye, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Mahavishnu, !!! That's a bit too wide a range for your average young Pop/R&B fan, and not something you can just slap a "Blue-Eyed Soul" label on...But the Die-hard fans (and all the fellow musicians) in the audience were just grinning and nodding their heads...
... You're absolutely right on the pigeonhole point. I was focusing on his vocal approach as the artists named aren't in the same solar system with him musically. While his musical tracks are extremely wide ranging, his vocals usually come from a Soul base. I now have the ultimate comeback when you comment on who i've "elbowed" out here... YOU GOT TO SEE LT!!! ...Boo-yah
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krayzie said: karmatornado said: I listened to both albums today on a flight home and also on the metrolink. Everyone is making a hot fuss about how dope Robin Thicke is and I give him his props, his album is enjoyable. However it is nowhere near as smooth and soulful as Remy Shand's album. Everyone is all enamored with this blue eyed soul bullshit, I just say its solid music, If you ask me whose better though, I would say Remy Shand all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday. What do you think!
Remy Shand is a terrible singer. But a multi talented artist. Remy got hit with bad timing. He'd be Robin Thicke right now. | |
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krayzie said: MuthaFunka said: Then you should say "SOME" or "MOST" because you just said white singers period couldn't sing like blacks. Then you have Boz Scaggs. Joss Stone. Christina Aguilera. The memo should actually be trashed. Loot at my original post : Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent. Your Boz Scaggs, christina Aguilera, Joss Stone are exatcly what I was saying, they force their vocals to sound "black", and they over use poor melisma, and always try to imitate the african american accent.
Teena Marie is the only one acceptable. She's an exeption. Period My memo is on point. That's why I never listen to blue eyed soul singers. [Edited 7/8/07 8:34am] What would you say about Lisa Stansfield? just wonderin | |
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Krayzie, it's statements like yours that give fuel to the wrong kind of vibe.
You're stating an opinion, and you're more than entitled to it. But, swap out a few words and flip it, and someone could just as forcefully say: "Their unfamiliarity with classical music and real jazz theory leaves most black guitarists incapable of showing any real mastery of their instrument." . [Edited 7/8/07 14:08pm] | |
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KatSkrizzle said: krayzie said: Loot at my original post : Most of the times blue-eyed soul singers use to force their vocals to sound "black", and they mostly fail miserabily. Too much melisma, nasal vocals and terrible attempts to imitate african american accent. Your Boz Scaggs, christina Aguilera, Joss Stone are exatcly what I was saying, they force their vocals to sound "black", and they over use poor melisma, and always try to imitate the african american accent.
Teena Marie is the only one acceptable. She's an exeption. Period My memo is on point. That's why I never listen to blue eyed soul singers. [Edited 7/8/07 8:34am] What would you say about Lisa Stansfield? just wonderin Same thing, First time I've seen Lisa Stanfield I wasn't impressed at all. She has a good voice, but she's noway near Teena Marie. | |
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ThreadBare said: Krayzie, it's statements like yours that give fuel to the wrong kind of vibe.
You're stating an opinion, and you're more than entitled to it. I'm sorry but some people over there want to give too much credit to average white singers. Im tired of that. I hate this double standard. I give credit when credit is due. White or Black. ThreadBare said: But, swap out a few words and flip it, and someone could just as forcefully say:
"Their unfamiliarity with classical music and real jazz theory leaves most black guitarists incapable of showing any real mastery of their instrument." . [Edited 7/8/07 14:08pm] First of all, I see nothing wrong with this statement, even though I disagree with it. I've never said white people CANNOT sing soul singers, but the thruth is the truth . When it comes to soul music, white singers rarely sound natural. Teena Marie is one of the few white singers who sounds great. | |
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