Well everyones favorite "SCAPE GOAT" for lack of singing talent in the RB/POP female industry is getting produced by someone whom the industry was touting as a GOD not too long ago. All of this led to yet more rumours (god doesnt VIBE do anything but start rumours) that Cassie was released by Bad BOy, but Puffy boldy stated on his Website that CASSIE wasnt gone and in fact he signed her to head this new fashion line for teen-young women from sean john. So Cassie already has turned up on Kanye's newest single and Video, could she become another Rihanna, Probably, really isnt too much difference.

She's hot.

Very hot, very, very hot, but thats about it.




PS... She's hot!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yeah which is why i pointed out how shes the scapegoat for the "lowering of talent" in RB/POP females, and yet i can name 10-20 who do the same things she does. Looks Good, gets video and magazine covers and fashion deals.

lastdecember said:

Cassie career was over the moment she had two HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE performances in back to back days, first on TRL then the classic performance at BEt ended her career, that performance at BET was so horrible it wasn't even funny, her performance was so crappy it offseted any buzz she had with her hot single, and great pop LP she had.

I AM SORRY BUT I CAN BET MY LIFE U CANT NAME ANY RNB SINGER WHO BOMBED ON BET AND MTV PERFORMANCES BACK TO BACK, like Cassie did

Ne-yo cant even lipsync properly, how come its not an issue? Ciara, couldnt keep up with her Lypsnching on 106th and park on an early performance. Cassie's stupid move was trying to sing, almost no one on that show sings or they at least use so many clip tracks that you mine as well just put the record on. I think the bigger point is people make exceptions in some cases and not others. Is Cassie a good singer, Hell no! But is Ashanti, is Ciara, are Danity Kane, is Lloyd or some of the pop females like Vanessa Hudgens or Ashley Tisdale, come on already. And lets not even talk about Rihannas live vocals on shows like Carson daly and the Tonight Show, Holy Crap!
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Do you also track female artist that aren't mainstream attractive?

lastdecember said:

Bullshit, again Ciara, did sing on her first performance, but she had a backing track, and she did dancing which entertained the crowd, Neyo sings live and sounds exactly like records, Ashanti is a good songwriter and decent singer, Danity kane are decent, Lloyd all of them are decent, even Rihanna she cant sing, but her using the live version of Umbrella is saving her. but Cassie cant sing even decently she was horrible, she cant dance, she cant sing has no stage presence, then you find out Tommy Mattola is her manager, Puffy is her boss, Ryan Leslie is producing her, it WAS 10x BAD.

Face the facts, she can have an album NOW produced by 89 Laface, 77 Philly International, mid 60 HDH and Smokey Robison, and add 1979 - 1983 Quincy Jones, and shorty still won't see over 300,000 sold, those performances killed her career, to the point that her second single which was the dopest song at the time didn't even make a blip
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Those live performances are nowhere to be found on youtube. Her handlers must have had them pulled.

she fucks for tracks, with kanye now.

PurpleCharm said:

http://www.dailymotion.co...u-bet-live

I found it for u, it is still comedy to this day, Young joc comes out and dances with the background singers, before his verse is over, the girl looks like she is scared, and this is her first time ever on stage, she has no stage presence,she cant dance, has zero rhythm she has BACKGROUND SINGERS FOR A SONG LIKE THIS, Ryan Leslie is more excited than Cassie who is the performer

FUNNIEST PERFORMANCE I EVEN SEEN, and SEENING IT WHEN IT HAPPENED MAKES IT CLASSIC

if i find the TRL performance the day before it was worst but just didn't have the classic sheen to it as the BET performance did
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qvgangsta18 said:

Greatest performance ever. I remember seeing this live and Iwas blwn away.

qvgangsta18 said:

qvgangsta18 said:

Thanks for the link. I needed a good laugh today.

Towards the end of the peformance you can tell she was ready for it to be over. And at one point the background singers look at each other like "wtf."

The young lady needs a modeling contract...not a singing contract.
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did we mention that Cassie was HAWT! eye candy is a good thing. need to see more of her.

datdude said:

Perhaps on a runway or magazines, but not on a stage with her "singing".

Wow, talk about lame excuses, is Cassie good or even close to being good NO WAY, thats not the point. Danity Kane suck, decent?? are u mad, track their performance on the Jimmy Kimmel show down to see decent at work, Ciara, totally useless, Ashanti a good songwriter WHEN? Rihanna is brutal live, i mean brutal, I pray for her to Lipsync, to me i could close my eyes and listen to Ciara ,Rihanna,Cassie or any other and not have a clue who is singing or who they are, thats the point. Its like Dennis Miller said about 2 for 1 deals, 2 OF SHIT IS SHIT, theres no deal.

PurpleCharm said:

Yeah i do but most Prince fans dont care about notes on Angie Stone or Jaguar Wright, so if i posted that i would be writing a note to myself pretty much.

PurpleCharm said:

Thats the point, the point is that we are actually praising others like Ciara and Rihanna I mean are standards that lov?? Shit alright they have catchy songs but lets not put them on this level where they are above others who really do the same shit they do.

No lame excuses. It's the truth. People are at least entertained when they watch Ciara and Rhianna perform because they can at least dance and break a sweat. What they lack vocally, they make up in their dancing, like Janet, Paula, etc. And what's up with the Danity Kane mentions? Ain't nobody checking for them. What exactly does Cassie do on stage besides looking cute?

I can't take up for Ashanit because she's on the same level as Cassie as far as I'm concerned. Writing songs with trite lyrics doesn't constitute her being talented in the songwriting department.

If you can't sing,dance,play an instrument or write decent lyrics why be in the music business as a performer?

lastdecember said:

Who praises Rhianna and Ciara on this forum? Rhianna recently had a lengthy thread about her not being able to sing.

qvgangsta18 said:

For once Krazy, we agree on something! Cassie is just as much as a joke as Ashlee Simpson.

But at least Cassie is way better looking.

lastdecember said:

Show me the threads on here that feature orger 'praising' Rihanna
I dare ya! and if they exist count how many ppl actually agree

LittleBLUECorvette said:

.....and as BlaqueKnight pointed out awhile back, Cassie needs to FFT like her life (let alone her career) depends on it!!!






.....social satire people.

lastdecember said:

Thats proably the most close minded thing you've written

I mean are we that shallow as Prince fans, where all that matters is a pretty face and an empty soul? I find that the people on this site are, if anything pickier about how talented musicians are when it comes to music.

thekidsgirl said:

We agree that Jay-Z was thinking with his hormones when he "discover" Rihanna a few years ago.

TonyVanDam said:

Exactly! Thats hardly praise
Don't worry lastdecember, its pretty obvious that everyone thinks Rihanna
is lacking in talent just as much as Cassie

thekidsgirl said:

Well is kind of true at least in the female respect, there is that double standard that always exists. Where an attractive female with talent, say beyonce,Mariah,Alicia Keys will get less respect than a male artist who has less talent but may be good looking. The double standard is that a "hot" female cant have talent, well is that true? Im not saying there arent females just making it on their looks, but hey thats the industry now, labels will sign you only if they can put on magazine covers, but at the same time we cant say that all females that look good have no talent. How come this issue never comes up with male artists? good looking, bad looking etc.. are we saying that all male artists out there have talent?

My defense of Cassie is not a real defense as it is a point of where the game is at now. People a few months ago were praising Kanye West as the second coming and now he's producing the new Cassie album and going around saying how shes a great talent. I mean come on now. Sorry but to me there is no difference in Cassie or Rihanna or _____ (insert name here).

lastdecember said:

Rhianna can sing, Cassie cannot at all.

Jay Z. is a turd burgler. He ain't tryin' to marry Beyonce, she's his "cover girl". no hormones involved, he was in music mogul mode when he signed Rihanna, thinking about her appeal to Carribbean, brazilian audiences outside the US.

talent as a criteria for getting a deal died a long time ago. so why should Cassie be a "fall girl". Let her lip synch and just be FINE

alphastreet said: