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Reply #30 posted 07/09/07 5:55am

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shorttrini said:

So I take it that none of u all, agree with her? As Chris Rock once said, I am love hip-hop, but I am tired of defending it. Hip-Hop, is getting worse daily. You can turn on BET and see that. It used to be that it was fun to listen to or u could learn something from it. Now all you hear is a "dumb-down" version of a minstrel show and it is just a waste.

Nas was right, Hip-Hop is dead.

I am with Latifah on this One!!! I love my HipHop but Im getting really tired of all the abuse, egotism and insults!!
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Reply #31 posted 07/09/07 6:31am

dseann

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Queen Latifah has become the latest hip-hop artist to urge her peers to tone down their language, insisting black rappers should show off their vocabulary instead of rhyming expletives.

The rapper-turned-actress has called for hip-hop to start policing itself - to make sure the stereotype of uneducated, thuggish stars disappears.

She says: "We should start encouraging people to clean certain songs up because it's just not necessary.




"When you get used to hearing the clean version of a song in the clubs or on the radio all the time and then you hear the explicit version, it's shocking and it's not very creative.

"If you could clean up this record and make it sound this good, why did you ever need to make it like that in the first place? Sometimes cursing is an excuse not to use more vocabulary."



hmmm



I think this bitch should concentrate more on not cleaning up her fucking plate soo often than cleaning up hip-hop. (Fat Bitch).

Hip Hop is what it is.....shit hop.....the record companies decide what goes on a record not the "artists"(and I am using this word very loosely here). It's all about a quick turnover of dollars and not quality of content in the industry these days.
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Reply #32 posted 07/09/07 6:50am

MsLegs

Alamine said:

"Hip-Hop was the epitome of black pride, now its the epitome of coonery & buffoonery. just like what those who feared it wanted it to be."


So is Classical music the epitome of white pride?

That's not true. Hip hop was never epitome of black pride. That was a statement implemented by white critics. Hip Hop is world wide, city wide. All hip hop will never be the same. Is all blues the same? Who wants to listen to cornball raps about eating veggies, etc.





Tell America to clean up it's country.




Queen needs to stop being a puppet for the industry she sold out to by playing a big fat ghetto ignorant buffon.



[Edited 7/8/07 23:56pm]

Agreed. What you said is valid point. It's shame that some artist allow themselves to portray stereotypical images on screen and used by the filming industry.
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Reply #33 posted 07/09/07 7:04am

SoulAlive

MsLegs said:

Alamine said:

"Hip-Hop was the epitome of black pride, now its the epitome of coonery & buffoonery. just like what those who feared it wanted it to be."


So is Classical music the epitome of white pride?

That's not true. Hip hop was never epitome of black pride. That was a statement implemented by white critics. Hip Hop is world wide, city wide. All hip hop will never be the same. Is all blues the same? Who wants to listen to cornball raps about eating veggies, etc.





Tell America to clean up it's country.




Queen needs to stop being a puppet for the industry she sold out to by playing a big fat ghetto ignorant buffon.




Agreed. What you said is valid point. It's shame that some artist allow themselves to portray stereotypical images on screen and used by the filming industry.



what about the rappers being part of a crazy minstrel show,exploiting themselves in such an embarrasing manner?
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Reply #34 posted 07/09/07 10:19am

Alamine

SoulAlive said:

Alamine said:

Tell America to clean up it's country.Queen needs to stop being a puppet for the industry she sold out to by playing a big fat ghetto ignorant buffon.



At least she's not a part of the pathetic "gangsta" minstrel show that many others are a part of.She's not going around using words like "bitch","ho" and "nigga" to make a point.She's not going around degrading or insulting people.


"Tell America to clean up it's country"

Yes,America has problems but somehow,I still don't see why you use this as an excuse for the rappers to behave that way.Taking part in a minstrel show isn't gonna solve any problems.




Tell the movie industry to clean up its industry.


Hip Hop has not always been some hippie black love fest or black feel good music. Go back and listen to some old hip hop, and come back later and post the lyrics. Hip hop has always had bling, has always had bitches, niggas and pimps. I wish black people would stop trying to re-write history. There is enough hip hop in the world for people to listen to, I wish people like Latifiah would find some real shit to complain about.
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Reply #35 posted 07/09/07 10:32am

MsLegs

Alamine said:

I wish black people would stop trying to re-write history.

No need to re-write history when you innovative and start your own trends for haters and admireres to want to duplicate.
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Reply #36 posted 07/09/07 10:33am

sosgemini

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MsLegs said:

Alamine said:

"Hip-Hop was the epitome of black pride, now its the epitome of coonery & buffoonery. just like what those who feared it wanted it to be."


So is Classical music the epitome of white pride?

That's not true. Hip hop was never epitome of black pride. That was a statement implemented by white critics. Hip Hop is world wide, city wide. All hip hop will never be the same. Is all blues the same? Who wants to listen to cornball raps about eating veggies, etc.





Tell America to clean up it's country.




Queen needs to stop being a puppet for the industry she sold out to by playing a big fat ghetto ignorant buffon.



[Edited 7/8/07 23:56pm]

Agreed. What you said is valid point. It's shame that some artist allow themselves to portray stereotypical images on screen and used by the filming industry.



which roles has Latifah played are stereotypes though?

Living Out Loud? (Jazz singer)
Last Holiday? (Blue collar worker)
Bringing Up The House? (Steve Martin was the buffoon in that film).
Stranger Then Fiction? (Business Professional)
Beauty Shop (Business Owner)
Chicago (Prison guard)

I havent seen Taxi to comment on it but even if she did play up stereotypes in that one film I would say she has a diverse enough pool of characters that would allow one silly role.

its not like she is cuba gooding jr'ing her career...im surprised how effective she is at getting roles...much better then whopiee back in the day.
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Reply #37 posted 07/09/07 10:38am

MsLegs

sosgemini said:

MsLegs said:


Agreed. What you said is valid point. It's shame that some artist allow themselves to portray stereotypical images on screen and used by the filming industry.



which roles has Latifah played are stereotypes though?


Read what I said in context before asking your question Sos regarding Latifah. biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 07/09/07 10:43am

sosgemini

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MsLegs said:

sosgemini said:




which roles has Latifah played are stereotypes though?


Read what I said in context before asking your question Sos regarding Latifah. biggrin



ummm..it doesn't make sense though...when has she ever played a "big fat ghetto ignorant buffon"?

# Hairspray (2007) .... Motormouth Maybelle
# Life Support (2007) .... Ana
# Lost Historical Films on the Ice Age Period (2006) (V) (voice) .... Ellie
# Stranger Than Fiction (2006) .... Penny Escher
# Ice Age 2: The Meltdown (2006) (VG) .... Ellie
# Ice Age: The Meltdown (2006) (voice) .... Ellie
... aka Ice Age 2 (Singapore: English title) (USA: working title)
... aka Ice Age: The Meltdown (UK)
# Last Holiday (2006) .... Georgia Byrd
# Glamour Magazine's Women of the Year Awards (2005) (TV)
# The Muppets' Wizard of Oz (2005) (TV) .... Auntie Em
# Beauty Shop (2005) .... Gina Norris
# Taxi (2004/I) .... Belle
... aka New York Taxi (France)
... aka Taxi 2004 (UK: promotional title)
# The Cookout (2004) .... Security Guard
# Crash Nebula (2004) (TV) (voice) .... Pam Dromeda
# "The Fairly OddParents" .... Pam Dromeda (1 episode, 2004)
- Crash Nebula (2004) TV Episode (voice) .... Pam Dromeda
# "Eve" .... Simone (1 episode, 2004)
- Sister, Sister (2004) TV Episode .... Simone
# Barbershop 2: Back in Business (2004) .... Gina
# Scary Movie 3 (2003) .... Aunt Shaneequa
... aka Scary Movie 3.5 (USA: DVD box title)
# Bringing Down the House (2003) .... Charlene Morton
# "Kung Faux" (2003) TV Series .... Various / ... (unknown episodes)
# Chicago (2002) .... Matron Mama Morton
... aka Chicago (Germany)
# Pinocchio (2002) (voice: English version) .... Dove
... aka Roberto Benigni's Pinocchio (USA: promotional title)
# Brown Sugar (2002) .... Francine
... aka Seven Days
# The Country Bears (2002) .... Cha-Cha
# Living with the Dead (2002) (TV) .... Midge Harmon
... aka Talking to Heaven (Europe: English title) (USA: working title)
# "Spin City" .... Robin Jones (2 episodes, 2001)
- Sleeping with the Enemy (2001) TV Episode .... Robin Jones
- Yeah Baby! (2001) TV Episode .... Robin Jones

# Bringing Out the Dead (1999) (voice) .... Voice of Dispatcher Love
# The Bone Collector (1999) .... Thelma
# Mama Flora's Family (1998) (TV) .... Diana
# Living Out Loud (1998) .... Liz Bailey
# Sphere (1998) .... Alice 'Teeny' Fletcher
# "Living Single" .... Khadijah James / ... (115 episodes, 1993-1998)
... aka My Girls
- Let's Stay Together (1998) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- To Catch a Thief (1998) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- In Your Dreams (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- Misleading Lady (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- Forgive Us Our Trespasses (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
(110 more)
# Hoodlum (1997) .... Sulie
# Set It Off (1996) .... Cleopatra 'Cleo' Sims
# My Life (1993/I) .... Theresa
# Sisters in the Name of Rap (1992) (TV)
# Juice (1992) .... Ruffhouse M.C.
... aka Angel Town 2 (Europe: English title: video catalogue title)
# "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" .... Dee Dee / ... (2 episodes, 1991)
- She Ain't Heavy (1991) TV Episode .... Dee Dee
- Working It Out (1991) TV Episode .... Marissa Redman
# House Party 2 (1991) .... Zora
# Jungle Fever (1991) .... Lashawn
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Reply #39 posted 07/09/07 10:49am

Alamine

I don't think you are black.



sosgemini said:

MsLegs said:


Read what I said in context before asking your question Sos regarding Latifah. biggrin



ummm..it doesn't make sense though...when has she ever played a "big fat ghetto ignorant buffon"?

# Hairspray (2007) .... Motormouth Maybelle
# Life Support (2007) .... Ana
# Lost Historical Films on the Ice Age Period (2006) (V) (voice) .... Ellie
# Stranger Than Fiction (2006) .... Penny Escher
# Ice Age 2: The Meltdown (2006) (VG) .... Ellie
# Ice Age: The Meltdown (2006) (voice) .... Ellie
... aka Ice Age 2 (Singapore: English title) (USA: working title)
... aka Ice Age: The Meltdown (UK)
# Last Holiday (2006) .... Georgia Byrd
# Glamour Magazine's Women of the Year Awards (2005) (TV)
# The Muppets' Wizard of Oz (2005) (TV) .... Auntie Em
# Beauty Shop (2005) .... Gina Norris
# Taxi (2004/I) .... Belle
... aka New York Taxi (France)
... aka Taxi 2004 (UK: promotional title)
# The Cookout (2004) .... Security Guard
# Crash Nebula (2004) (TV) (voice) .... Pam Dromeda
# "The Fairly OddParents" .... Pam Dromeda (1 episode, 2004)
- Crash Nebula (2004) TV Episode (voice) .... Pam Dromeda
# "Eve" .... Simone (1 episode, 2004)
- Sister, Sister (2004) TV Episode .... Simone
# Barbershop 2: Back in Business (2004) .... Gina
# Scary Movie 3 (2003) .... Aunt Shaneequa
... aka Scary Movie 3.5 (USA: DVD box title)
# Bringing Down the House (2003) .... Charlene Morton
# "Kung Faux" (2003) TV Series .... Various / ... (unknown episodes)
# Chicago (2002) .... Matron Mama Morton
... aka Chicago (Germany)
# Pinocchio (2002) (voice: English version) .... Dove
... aka Roberto Benigni's Pinocchio (USA: promotional title)
# Brown Sugar (2002) .... Francine
... aka Seven Days
# The Country Bears (2002) .... Cha-Cha
# Living with the Dead (2002) (TV) .... Midge Harmon
... aka Talking to Heaven (Europe: English title) (USA: working title)
# "Spin City" .... Robin Jones (2 episodes, 2001)
- Sleeping with the Enemy (2001) TV Episode .... Robin Jones
- Yeah Baby! (2001) TV Episode .... Robin Jones

# Bringing Out the Dead (1999) (voice) .... Voice of Dispatcher Love
# The Bone Collector (1999) .... Thelma
# Mama Flora's Family (1998) (TV) .... Diana
# Living Out Loud (1998) .... Liz Bailey
# Sphere (1998) .... Alice 'Teeny' Fletcher
# "Living Single" .... Khadijah James / ... (115 episodes, 1993-1998)
... aka My Girls
- Let's Stay Together (1998) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- To Catch a Thief (1998) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- In Your Dreams (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- Misleading Lady (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
- Forgive Us Our Trespasses (1997) TV Episode .... Khadijah James
(110 more)
# Hoodlum (1997) .... Sulie
# Set It Off (1996) .... Cleopatra 'Cleo' Sims
# My Life (1993/I) .... Theresa
# Sisters in the Name of Rap (1992) (TV)
# Juice (1992) .... Ruffhouse M.C.
... aka Angel Town 2 (Europe: English title: video catalogue title)
# "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" .... Dee Dee / ... (2 episodes, 1991)
- She Ain't Heavy (1991) TV Episode .... Dee Dee
- Working It Out (1991) TV Episode .... Marissa Redman
# House Party 2 (1991) .... Zora
# Jungle Fever (1991) .... Lashawn
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Reply #40 posted 07/09/07 10:51am

MsLegs

sosgemini said:




ummm..it doesn't make sense though...when has she ever played a "big fat ghetto ignorant buffon"?


What you're saying thusfar doesnt make since. Considering the fact, that at no time had I made any comments regarding Latifah . So before going off tangent and ranting for nothing. Take another approach. Just for future reference, try to make sure to reread statement in context before commenting.
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Reply #41 posted 07/09/07 10:55am

sosgemini

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Alamine said:

I don't think you are black.



so which banned orger are you?
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Reply #42 posted 07/09/07 10:55am

sosgemini

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MsLegs said:

sosgemini said:




ummm..it doesn't make sense though...when has she ever played a "big fat ghetto ignorant buffon"?


What you're saying thusfar doesnt make since. Considering the fact, that at no time had I made any comments regarding Latifah . So before going off tangent and ranting for nothing. Take another approach. Just for future reference, try to make sure to reread statement in context before commenting.


hey, you quoted alamine and said "agreed". but its all good.

lol
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Reply #43 posted 07/09/07 10:57am

MsLegs

sosgemini said:

MsLegs said:


What you're saying thusfar doesnt make since. Considering the fact, that at no time had I made any comments regarding Latifah . So before going off tangent and ranting for nothing. Take another approach. Just for future reference, try to make sure to reread statement in context before commenting.


but its all good.

lol

cool
[Edited 7/9/07 10:58am]
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Reply #44 posted 07/09/07 11:06am

Alamine

sosgemini said:

Alamine said:

I don't think you are black.



so which banned orger are you?



you could argue that Taxi and Bringing down DA house are buffonish movies.
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Reply #45 posted 07/09/07 11:30am

Harlepolis

sosgemini said:

Alamine said:

I don't think you are black.



so which banned orger are you?


falloff

I'll use your once-used quote, Sos "Don't reason with the unreasonable" wink
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Reply #46 posted 07/09/07 11:49am

sosgemini

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lol
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Reply #47 posted 07/09/07 2:22pm

LOVEandLIGHT

I grew up in the 80's when "RAP aka Hip Hop" was FUN!
All your friends would get together and challenge oneanother in a rhyme battle or dance off (breakdance). Now its -Guys get together and Challenge oneanother with guns and knives, or metal baseball bats. We have lost all sort of respect for hip hop and our culture.

Queen Latifah is stating the Truth, half if not all of these rappers can't even speak. Their vocabulary is very limited these days and they can't count their own money (lmao).

Hip Hop IS DEAD FOLKS!!!!

Record companies need to promote and put more money into artist like: Common, Erykah Badu, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Sticky Fingaz, The Game, Mos Def, Kanye West, etc. (Thou a few of them do use curse words and has used the "N" word, but at the end of the day...

These are artist have messages and they speak the truth about society and the culture of hip hop. Their still doing it, because they LOVE HIP HOP and THEY RESPECT HIP HOP!!!! Just clean it up a bit and stop the disrespect.



Record Companies are constantly pumping millions into artists who are disposible and make crappy music about shoot em up bang bang and degrading women.

Lets Free HIP HOP and Breath new life into it!
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Reply #48 posted 07/09/07 5:50pm

Alamine

LOVEandLIGHT said:

I grew up in the 80's when "RAP aka Hip Hop" was FUN!
All your friends would get together and challenge oneanother in a rhyme battle or dance off (breakdance). Now its -Guys get together and Challenge oneanother with guns and knives, or metal baseball bats. We have lost all sort of respect for hip hop and our culture.




80's rap, are you serious. LOL

Queen Latifah is stating the Truth, half if not all of these rappers can't even speak. Their vocabulary is very limited these days and they can't count their own money (lmao).


QL is a sell out, and she is salty because her venture in hip hop sucked. That Flavor Unit crap was horrible.


Hip Hop IS DEAD FOLKS!!!!


Yeah, that's the cool catch phrase, huh.

Record companies need to promote and put more money into artist like: Common, Erykah Badu, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Sticky Fingaz, The Game, Mos Def, Kanye West, etc. (Thou a few of them do use curse words and has used the "N" word, but at the end of the day...



So, is it the rappers or the record labels. Pick one.

These are artist have messages and they speak the truth about society and the culture of hip hop. Their still doing it, because they LOVE HIP HOP and THEY RESPECT HIP HOP!!!! Just clean it up a bit and stop the disrespect.

Some rappers speak hood truth, and they love hip hop and also respect hip hop.



Record Companies are constantly pumping millions into artists who are disposible and make crappy music about shoot em up bang bang and degrading women.



So is it the record companies or the rappers?

Lets Free HIP HOP and Breath new life into it!



His name is Kayne West. They said he would not make it in the industry, and look at him now, people can't stand him.
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Reply #51 posted 07/09/07 10:56pm

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silverchild said:

Is this the reason why she retired from the hip-hop industry and became a successful Hollywood actress and even recorded an album full of jazz and soul standards? hmmm


Yes.

Also because as a rap artist in her own right, Latifah (anyone from Native Tougues in general) couldn't complete with The West Coast or The Dirty South within the gangsta style.
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Reply #52 posted 07/09/07 11:00pm

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silverchild said:

shorttrini said:

and this is what it needs to go back to, Skills and the groove. What has been coming across the airwaves lately, has been pure shyt. If I hear another "Chicken Noodle Soup, based song, I am gonna scream. I miss the days of conscious rap, that still had a groove to it. I was listening to Arrested Development's debut, and looking back, it was an amazing album. This is what happends when something that we love, becomes a business.


We still got alternative rap!


Yeah, but it's underground.
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Reply #53 posted 07/10/07 1:39am

SoulAlive

sosgemini said:

MsLegs said:


Agreed. What you said is valid point. It's shame that some artist allow themselves to portray stereotypical images on screen and used by the filming industry.



which roles has Latifah played are stereotypes though?

Living Out Loud? (Jazz singer)
Last Holiday? (Blue collar worker)
Bringing Up The House? (Steve Martin was the buffoon in that film).
Stranger Then Fiction? (Business Professional)
Beauty Shop (Business Owner)
Chicago (Prison guard)

I havent seen Taxi to comment on it but even if she did play up stereotypes in that one film I would say she has a diverse enough pool of characters that would allow one silly role.

its not like she is cuba gooding jr'ing her career...im surprised how effective she is at getting roles...much better then whopiee back in the day.



I don't understand the criticism of her movie roles,either.Her roles are completely harmless and certainly more positive than the negative images that the gangsta rappers portray.
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Reply #54 posted 07/10/07 1:40am

SoulAlive

LOVEandLIGHT said:

I grew up in the 80's when "RAP aka Hip Hop" was FUN!
All your friends would get together and challenge oneanother in a rhyme battle or dance off (breakdance). Now its -Guys get together and Challenge oneanother with guns and knives, or metal baseball bats. We have lost all sort of respect for hip hop and our culture.

Queen Latifah is stating the Truth, half if not all of these rappers can't even speak. Their vocabulary is very limited these days and they can't count their own money (lmao).

Hip Hop IS DEAD FOLKS!!!!

Record companies need to promote and put more money into artist like: Common, Erykah Badu, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Sticky Fingaz, The Game, Mos Def, Kanye West, etc. (Thou a few of them do use curse words and has used the "N" word, but at the end of the day...

These are artist have messages and they speak the truth about society and the culture of hip hop. Their still doing it, because they LOVE HIP HOP and THEY RESPECT HIP HOP!!!! Just clean it up a bit and stop the disrespect.



Record Companies are constantly pumping millions into artists who are disposible and make crappy music about shoot em up bang bang and degrading women.

Lets Free HIP HOP and Breath new life into it!




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Reply #55 posted 07/10/07 4:21am

SoulAlive

Alamine said:

SoulAlive said:



At least she's not a part of the pathetic "gangsta" minstrel show that many others are a part of.She's not going around using words like "bitch","ho" and "nigga" to make a point.She's not going around degrading or insulting people.


"Tell America to clean up it's country"

Yes,America has problems but somehow,I still don't see why you use this as an excuse for the rappers to behave that way.Taking part in a minstrel show isn't gonna solve any problems.




Tell the movie industry to clean up its industry.


Hip Hop has not always been some hippie black love fest or black feel good music. Go back and listen to some old hip hop, and come back later and post the lyrics. Hip hop has always had bling, has always had bitches, niggas and pimps. I wish black people would stop trying to re-write history. There is enough hip hop in the world for people to listen to, I wish people like Latifiah would find some real shit to complain about.



I would argue that hip-hop in the early days had alot more substance.Back then,you had truly talented groups like Run-DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five....groups that had alot more to offer than just "Get on your knees,bitch!" or "I got hos all around the hood" rolleyes Stop trying to deny the obvious: much of today's hip-hop is degrading,offensive BULLSHIT and Queen Latifah should be applauded for speaking up against it.
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Reply #56 posted 07/10/07 5:23am

IAintTheOne

SoulAlive said:

Alamine said:





Tell the movie industry to clean up its industry.


Hip Hop has not always been some hippie black love fest or black feel good music. Go back and listen to some old hip hop, and come back later and post the lyrics. Hip hop has always had bling, has always had bitches, niggas and pimps. I wish black people would stop trying to re-write history. There is enough hip hop in the world for people to listen to, I wish people like Latifiah would find some real shit to complain about.



I would argue that hip-hop in the early days had alot more substance.Back then,you had truly talented groups like Run-DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five....groups that had alot more to offer than just "Get on your knees,bitch!" or "I got hos all around the hood" rolleyes Stop trying to deny the obvious: much of today's hip-hop is degrading,offensive BULLSHIT and Queen Latifah should be applauded for speaking up against it.



this is what hip hop was about

Disco four
Crash crew
Funky 4 +1
Treacherous 3
Fearless Four
Spyder D
Jimmy Spicer
Jekyll and Hyde
Soul sonic force
Big daddy Kane
Rakim
Fantastic 5
Cold crush brothers
Busy Bee
Sequence
Sugar Hill Gang
Positive force
EPMD
Public Enemy
Shan
BDP
Kool g Rap & Polo
Lyte
Ed OG & the Bulldogs
Black Sheep
De la soul

and the legendary Father of Hip hop Kool Herc
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Reply #57 posted 07/10/07 6:42am

Harlepolis

IAintTheOne said:

SoulAlive said:




I would argue that hip-hop in the early days had alot more substance.Back then,you had truly talented groups like Run-DMC and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five....groups that had alot more to offer than just "Get on your knees,bitch!" or "I got hos all around the hood" rolleyes Stop trying to deny the obvious: much of today's hip-hop is degrading,offensive BULLSHIT and Queen Latifah should be applauded for speaking up against it.



this is what hip hop was about

Disco four
Crash crew
Funky 4 +1
Treacherous 3
Fearless Four
Spyder D
Jimmy Spicer
Jekyll and Hyde
Soul sonic force
Big daddy Kane
Rakim
Fantastic 5
Cold crush brothers
Busy Bee
Sequence
Sugar Hill Gang
Positive force
EPMD
Public Enemy
Shan
BDP
Kool g Rap & Polo
Lyte
Ed OG & the Bulldogs
Black Sheep
De la soul

and the legendary Father of Hip hop Kool Herc


James Brown, Mohamed Ali, Last Poets and Jonnny Guitar Watson had their input on rap too nod
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Reply #58 posted 07/10/07 6:44am

IAintTheOne

Harlepolis said:

IAintTheOne said:




this is what hip hop was about

Disco four
Crash crew
Funky 4 +1
Treacherous 3
Fearless Four
Spyder D
Jimmy Spicer
Jekyll and Hyde
Soul sonic force
Big daddy Kane
Rakim
Fantastic 5
Cold crush brothers
Busy Bee
Sequence
Sugar Hill Gang
Positive force
EPMD
Public Enemy
Shan
BDP
Kool g Rap & Polo
Lyte
Ed OG & the Bulldogs
Black Sheep
De la soul

and the legendary Father of Hip hop Kool Herc


James Brown, Mohamed Ali, Last Poets and Jonnny Guitar Watson had their input on rap too nod




Absolutely sista. absolutely smile
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Reply #59 posted 07/10/07 7:02am

SoulAlive

dseann said:

funkpill said:

Queen Latifah has become the latest hip-hop artist to urge her peers to tone down their language, insisting black rappers should show off their vocabulary instead of rhyming expletives.

The rapper-turned-actress has called for hip-hop to start policing itself - to make sure the stereotype of uneducated, thuggish stars disappears.

She says: "We should start encouraging people to clean certain songs up because it's just not necessary.




"When you get used to hearing the clean version of a song in the clubs or on the radio all the time and then you hear the explicit version, it's shocking and it's not very creative.

"If you could clean up this record and make it sound this good, why did you ever need to make it like that in the first place? Sometimes cursing is an excuse not to use more vocabulary."



hmmm



I think this bitch should concentrate more on not cleaning up her fucking plate soo often than cleaning up hip-hop. (Fat Bitch).

Hip Hop is what it is.....shit hop.....the record companies decide what goes on a record not the "artists"(and I am using this word very loosely here). It's all about a quick turnover of dollars and not quality of content in the industry these days.



and that's okay?? As long as something makes money,it should be accepted and embraced? No one should dare question it or diss it? disbelief That type of mindset is the reason we're in the mess we are in right now.For too many years,nobody spoke up and complained.That's why radio is now dominated by these fools.
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