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Thread started 07/01/07 12:48am

JasonStar

The Latest on MJ...Not Good

I know 99.9% of MJ fans think Roger is FULL of BS. However, being a MJ fan at heart, this article really worries me. I'd ask fans, and casual observers of Michael's life to read this and take part in a discussion. All I can say is, I hope Michael isn't on the path to being the next Elvis..... sad

Michael Jackson's Family Calls for Help

Michael Jackson’s siblings — including Janet — and his parents are so worried about the failing pop star that they’ve sent out an emergency 911 call.

Sources tell me that the Jacksons are in the process of contacting Thomas Mesereau, the superstar criminal lawyer who won Jackson an acquittal two years ago in his child molestation trial.

The word from the Jacksons is that they’ve met several times as a family and discussed bringing Mesereau in for an intervention to save Michael.

Mesereau, who did not return calls to this column, is said to be open to finding out what Jackson’s true mental and health status is at this point. If he doesn’t like what he sees, the Jacksons will ask him to do something legal to save their brother’s life.

Jackson, according to insiders, is in perilous health right now. There is talk that his liver is damaged and that he’s been seen vomiting blood, although there’s no confirmation of that.

What has been confirmed is that Jackson — whose penchant for prescription meds and alcohol is well-known — is depressed, alone and mixing ingredients instead of making a new album or working.

But it’s the two-year isolation from friends and family that worried the Jacksons enough to consider including Mesereau in the conversation, sources tell me. The culprits are said to be publicist/manager Raymone Bain and aide de camp/nanny Grace Rwaramba.

For instance: this column has now learned that Bain has brought Rev. Jesse Jackson on in some kind of executive capacity in Michael’s businesses.

Bain and Jesse Jackson have a long relationship, so this is no surprise. But two years ago, Mesereau — sensing trouble — removed Bain and asked Jesse Jackson to leave after he arrived in Santa Maria, Calif., to grandstand at Michael’s trial.

It was Jesse Jackson who two years ago caused an avalanche in Michael’s finances. Jesse Jackson, sources say, interfered in Michael’s business by attempting to call Bank of America president Ken Lewis to complain that Michael was being “ripped off” in some way over his $270 million.

Lewis refused to speak with Jesse Jackson. He was so annoyed by Jackson’s interference that he ordered the banker in charge of the account to sell the loans to Fortress Investments.

The result was a sale and subsequent refinancing that put Jackson another $50 million in the red. Jesse Jackson at the time had convinced Michael that business partners Alvin Malnik and Charles Koppelman’s plan to bail out the singer was no good.

But in hindsight, he was wrong. Under the original plan, Jackson would only have sold half his interest in the Beatles’ catalog to Sony. Now, next May, thanks to the Fortress deal, he will have to dispose of all of it.
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Reply #1 posted 07/01/07 3:28am

Invincible1958

It's Roger Friedman.
That says it all.
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Reply #2 posted 07/01/07 6:21am

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JasonStar said:

.All I can say is, I hope Michael isn't on the path to being the next Elvis.....


lol

It's only now you realized that ?

Michael Jackson is even worse than Elvis.

This guy is lost, definitly lost.
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Reply #3 posted 07/01/07 8:32am

alphastreet

omg I hope this isn't true! But why aren't other mj boards talking about it?
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Reply #4 posted 07/01/07 8:53am

motownlover

alphastreet said:

omg I hope this isn't true! But why aren't other mj boards talking about it?


cause R.K.bain released a statement about it not being true

about rogers comments on grace , her selve and michael
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Reply #5 posted 07/01/07 11:25am

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krayzie said:

JasonStar said:

.All I can say is, I hope Michael isn't on the path to being the next Elvis.....


lol

It's only now you realized that ?

Michael Jackson is even worse than Elvis.

This guy is lost, definitly lost.



Yeah this guy is such a trainwreck but some of you can't seem to stop following his every move for some reason rolleyes. And Michael is not worse off than Elvis because Elvis was already dead at age 42 (?) didn't have much money in the bank and was very unhappy towards the end of his life.
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Reply #6 posted 07/01/07 12:42pm

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alphastreet said:

omg I hope this isn't true! But why aren't other mj boards talking about it?



this is a prince board thank you rolleyes

lol
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Reply #7 posted 07/01/07 12:51pm

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when you hear stuff like this happening ... then you need to pray for micheal and his family...
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Reply #8 posted 07/01/07 2:08pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

krayzie said:



lol

It's only now you realized that ?

Michael Jackson is even worse than Elvis.

This guy is lost, definitly lost.



Yeah this guy is such a trainwreck but some of you can't seem to stop following his every move for some reason rolleyes. And Michael is not worse off than Elvis because Elvis was already dead at age 42 (?) didn't have much money in the bank and was very unhappy towards the end of his life.
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Has michael Jackson a lot money in the bank, and Is he happy ? lol

Look the way he lives. This guy is lost, face it.

Look where he was 25 years ago. The most popular, artist ever. Michael Jackson would be still the most popular artist right now if he stayed away from plastic surgery and controversy.

Now he's a joke. Everybody thinks he's crazy and makes fun of him.
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Reply #9 posted 07/01/07 2:10pm

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Rhondab said:

alphastreet said:

omg I hope this isn't true! But why aren't other mj boards talking about it?



this is a prince board thank you rolleyes

lol

spit

lol
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Reply #10 posted 07/01/07 2:22pm

Illustrator

I hope Bubbles is a'ight.
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Reply #11 posted 07/01/07 2:29pm

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this article is NOT true, this thread should be locked lockdance


there is enough MJ threads floating around
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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #12 posted 07/01/07 9:41pm

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It's hard to believe shit like this because Roger Friedman has said bullshit like this SEVERAL times over the years and it hasn't been true so who knows?

Also, this whole issue with Sony/ATV is getting pointless to discuss these days
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Reply #13 posted 07/02/07 8:23am

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Illustrator said:

I hope Bubbles is a'ight.


falloff Hey maybe Bubbles is the one who is supplying MJ with the drugs. Totally tasteless thing to say, I know, but I couldn't resist. lol
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #14 posted 07/02/07 9:46am

MsLegs

What a sick pattern that has developed . If they're not doggin MJ then, it's Beyonce. Who really gives a fuck about talking about those two all the damn time. Who ever keeps making up these stupid threads needs a pimp2 slap and a fishslap of reality.
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Reply #15 posted 07/02/07 5:23pm

skyecute

Roger Friedbrain is even more pathetic than I originally thought. You would think that Michael had done something personal to him. Anyone with a brain can see that Roger is more than obsessed with Michael. Friedbrain is pathological. He is a stalker in the worst way. Roger's obsession with Michael has gotten so bad that he has begun to act like a rabid dog. Roger needs psychological help because he is a very sick man.
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Reply #16 posted 07/02/07 5:24pm

skyecute

Roger Friedbrain is even more pathetic than I originally thought. You would think that Michael had done something personal to him. Anyone with a brain can see that Roger is more than obsessed with Michael. Friedbrain is pathological. He is a stalker in the worst way. Roger's obsession with Michael has gotten so bad that he has begun to act like a rabid dog. Roger needs psychological help because he is a very sick man.
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Reply #17 posted 07/02/07 5:25pm

skyecute

Roger Friedbrain is even more pathetic than I originally thought. You would think that Michael had done something personal to him. Anyone with a brain can see that Roger is more than obsessed with Michael. Friedbrain is pathological. He is a stalker in the worst way. Roger's obsession with Michael has gotten so bad that he has begun to act like a rabid dog. Roger needs psychological help because he is a very sick man.
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Reply #18 posted 07/02/07 5:43pm

MsLegs

bored
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Reply #19 posted 07/02/07 5:50pm

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skyecute said:

Roger Friedbrain is even more pathetic than I originally thought. You would think that Michael had done something personal to him. Anyone with a brain can see that Roger is more than obsessed with Michael. Friedbrain is pathological. He is a stalker in the worst way. Roger's obsession with Michael has gotten so bad that he has begun to act like a rabid dog. Roger needs psychological help because he is a very sick man.

i agree, at first i thought whatever...he just needs a story to cover but like EVERY week he writes some false story about michael or an exaggerated story. he's like Diane Dimond except 10 times obsessed. i heard diane having twins,she's probally gonna name one michael and the other one jackson lol
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Reply #20 posted 07/02/07 7:29pm

skyecute

Oops, sorry about the triple post. I didn't realize that I had done that until I left the org and then returned.
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Reply #21 posted 07/02/07 7:46pm

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motownlover said:

alphastreet said:

omg I hope this isn't true! But why aren't other mj boards talking about it?


cause R.K.bain released a statement about it not being true

about rogers comments on grace , her selve and michael



It is spoken about between fans but most mj boards have banned roger friedmans articles from being posted/discussed and people find the article hard to believe as it is from roger friedman

but the idea of grace and raymone keeping michael away from his family is well known and again it has been banned from alot of the boards due to the fact it causes arguements between the fans but believe me neither of them are popular with alot of fans and both are rude to the fans and as sweet as pie to them when michael is around

alot of the fans are becoming more and more worried by the raymone/grace team and i believe it would be a good thing to get some fresh blood in to his team such as a manager for a start rather than having raymone who is a PR person trying to be his manager
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Reply #22 posted 07/02/07 8:17pm

skyecute

b3xy said:

motownlover said:



cause R.K.bain released a statement about it not being true

about rogers comments on grace , her selve and michael



It is spoken about between fans but most mj boards have banned roger friedmans articles from being posted/discussed and people find the article hard to believe as it is from roger friedman

but the idea of grace and raymone keeping michael away from his family is well known and again it has been banned from alot of the boards due to the fact it causes arguements between the fans but believe me neither of them are popular with alot of fans and both are rude to the fans and as sweet as pie to them when michael is around

alot of the fans are becoming more and more worried by the raymone/grace team and i believe it would be a good thing to get some fresh blood in to his team such as a manager for a start rather than having raymone who is a PR person trying to be his manager


Fresh blood? You mean like Stuart Backerman,Schaffel, Weisner and the other backstabbers who were working with Mottola in releasing rumors to the media and tabloid hacks like Roger Friedman? I'm sorry but I think that a lot of fans AND detrators can't handle the fact that Raymone and Grace are black women who have Michael's back. I seriously don't think that fans or detractors would be "worried" if these two ladies were of another race. The fact that Raymone seems to "take no mess" frightens a lot of people, especially those in the media who want to be able to take malign Michael and have no response. I can't believe that the media thinks that they have the RIGHT to attack Michael and not have someone stand up to their lies. I remember when Raymone set Nancy Grace and Diane Dimond straight on Larry King's show, they acted as it they weren't supposed to be challenged by Raymone. She is doing what she is supposed to do and people don't like it. I say TOO BAD. The audacity of some in the media is mind-boggling. I truly think that Raymone and Grace have Michael's best interest at heart and there are some people-fans and non-fans- who are jealous of that closeness and want to destroy it. I trust them more than I did his previous teams. He gave those people too much power and they abused it and used it against him. I truly feel sorry for him, because he doesn't know who he can trust. I pray that Raymone and Grace are THE ones that he can finally trust.
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Reply #23 posted 07/03/07 7:57am

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skyecute said:

b3xy said:




It is spoken about between fans but most mj boards have banned roger friedmans articles from being posted/discussed and people find the article hard to believe as it is from roger friedman

but the idea of grace and raymone keeping michael away from his family is well known and again it has been banned from alot of the boards due to the fact it causes arguements between the fans but believe me neither of them are popular with alot of fans and both are rude to the fans and as sweet as pie to them when michael is around

alot of the fans are becoming more and more worried by the raymone/grace team and i believe it would be a good thing to get some fresh blood in to his team such as a manager for a start rather than having raymone who is a PR person trying to be his manager


Fresh blood? You mean like Stuart Backerman,Schaffel, Weisner and the other backstabbers who were working with Mottola in releasing rumors to the media and tabloid hacks like Roger Friedman? I'm sorry but I think that a lot of fans AND detrators can't handle the fact that Raymone and Grace are black women who have Michael's back. I seriously don't think that fans or detractors would be "worried" if these two ladies were of another race. The fact that Raymone seems to "take no mess" frightens a lot of people, especially those in the media who want to be able to take malign Michael and have no response. I can't believe that the media thinks that they have the RIGHT to attack Michael and not have someone stand up to their lies. I remember when Raymone set Nancy Grace and Diane Dimond straight on Larry King's show, they acted as it they weren't supposed to be challenged by Raymone. She is doing what she is supposed to do and people don't like it. I say TOO BAD. The audacity of some in the media is mind-boggling. I truly think that Raymone and Grace have Michael's best interest at heart and there are some people-fans and non-fans- who are jealous of that closeness and want to destroy it. I trust them more than I did his previous teams. He gave those people too much power and they abused it and used it against him. I truly feel sorry for him, because he doesn't know who he can trust. I pray that Raymone and Grace are THE ones that he can finally trust.
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when i said fresh blood i obviously didnt mean people who have been on his team before and stabed him in the back

when i said fresh blood i meant to increase his team to more than 2 people (a PR person and a nanny) he needs to start having a manager and sure raymone is great at sending denials to the press and dealing with them but she isnt a manager

and belief me there is an arguement about whether raymone is stopping michael getting back with frank by not passing on messages etc but i am not gonna get into that

and why on earth would the fact that raymone and grace are black women have anything to do with this believe me it certainly doesnt change my opininons on things

sure he doesnt know who he can trust he has trusted so many and been betrayed but there is a fear he is trusting the wrong people at present amongst alot of the fans neutral
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Reply #24 posted 07/03/07 11:38am

skyecute

b3xy said:

skyecute said:



Fresh blood? You mean like Stuart Backerman,Schaffel, Weisner and the other backstabbers who were working with Mottola in releasing rumors to the media and tabloid hacks like Roger Friedman? I'm sorry but I think that a lot of fans AND detrators can't handle the fact that Raymone and Grace are black women who have Michael's back. I seriously don't think that fans or detractors would be "worried" if these two ladies were of another race. The fact that Raymone seems to "take no mess" frightens a lot of people, especially those in the media who want to be able to take malign Michael and have no response. I can't believe that the media thinks that they have the RIGHT to attack Michael and not have someone stand up to their lies. I remember when Raymone set Nancy Grace and Diane Dimond straight on Larry King's show, they acted as it they weren't supposed to be challenged by Raymone. She is doing what she is supposed to do and people don't like it. I say TOO BAD. The audacity of some in the media is mind-boggling. I truly think that Raymone and Grace have Michael's best interest at heart and there are some people-fans and non-fans- who are jealous of that closeness and want to destroy it. I trust them more than I did his previous teams. He gave those people too much power and they abused it and used it against him. I truly feel sorry for him, because he doesn't know who he can trust. I pray that Raymone and Grace are THE ones that he can finally trust.
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when i said fresh blood i obviously didnt mean people who have been on his team before and stabed him in the back

when i said fresh blood i meant to increase his team to more than 2 people (a PR person and a nanny) he needs to start having a manager and sure raymone is great at sending denials to the press and dealing with them but she isnt a manager

and belief me there is an arguement about whether raymone is stopping michael getting back with frank by not passing on messages etc but i am not gonna get into that

and why on earth would the fact that raymone and grace are black women have anything to do with this believe me it certainly doesnt change my opininons on things

sure he doesnt know who he can trust he has trusted so many and been betrayed but there is a fear he is trusting the wrong people at present amongst alot of the fans neutral
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Maybe you don't feel that Raymone and Grace being black has anything to do with anything; but, believe me there are fans who have a problem with that.It has even been discussed on some fan boards and there was anger from fans because certain fans had a "problem" with Raymone and Grace being black. I also think that these are some of the same "fans" who are stirring up trouble on fan boards by trying to put-down Raymone and Grace. There also those outside forces who are not pleased with Raymone because she doesn't allow the rumors and speculations to just sit out there in the media unaddressed. Michael's previous managers didn't do much to dispel rumors because they told Michael if he he ignored them they would go away. Thank goodness, Raymone is not doing that. Although, I agree that Micheal probably does need some more people on his PR team, he has to be very careful of who he hires. He can't trust any of the people who are in the business because they basically have stabbed him in the back-Backerman, Levine, Gallin, etc. I really don't know about Frank Dileo. He has stood by Michael in the past, but he also had a tie to Mottola. Michael HAS to be wary of EVERYONE. There is not a single person in the world who knows how this man feels and what he is going through. That is the very reason that I am going to be patient and wait until he decides to release new music. If he doesn't, I will still support and respect him. My fandom does not depend on whether he releases a new album. I am a fan of Michael Jackson, not just his music.
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