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Reply #60 posted 07/03/07 3:24pm

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BAD 20 PART FOUR- THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL

THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL

written by Michael Jackson

Inspired when his mother, Katherine, asked Michael to make a song with a "shuffling kind of rhythm"

One of the first songs written for the Bad album in 1985, was originally titled "Hot Fever"

The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

Performed at the 1988 Grammy Awards, the 1988-89 legs of the Bad World Tour, and occasionally
during the 1992-93 Dangerous World Tour and 1996-97 HIStory World Tour.

Peaked at #1 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts and #3 in the UK

The third single from the album, released while Michael was on tour in either Japan or Australia

Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#3
Singles Airplay-#2
Canada-#3
UK-#3
Australia-#5
Austria-#15
Belgium-#2
Denmark-#6
Finland-#20
France-#15
Germany-#12
Holland-#6
Ireland-#1
Italy-#4
Japan-#92
New Zealand-#2
South Africa-#16
Spain-#2(#1 in 2006)
Switzerland-#8
Zimbabwe-?
[Edited 7/14/07 11:26am]
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Reply #61 posted 07/05/07 5:55am

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I'm so glad that they ended up with the cover they did. The cover truly sells the album and makes a good sequel to the Thriller cover.

I LOVE this album. The title track may be my favorite song of the 80's. Michael was the coolest thing on the planet when BAD came out.
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Reply #62 posted 07/05/07 4:45pm

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Ellie said:

TonyVanDam said:



1. The Eagles Greatest Hits is THE biggest selling album ever WITHIN the USA. It beat out Thriller by exactly 1.2 million as of late.

2. Michael's Thriller is still THE biggest selling album ever WORLDWIDE.

3. Right after Thriller, Bad used to be THE SECOND biggest selling album ever AROUND the world. But Kenny G's Breathless & Shania Twain's Come On Over has already taken the second place spot since that time.

I've never even heard a claim for Kenny G selling over 30m. He's even worse than The Eagles in that he's pretty much nothing outside the USA. Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill and The Bodyguard soundtrack both did over 30m though.

These days AC/DC's Back In Black is often quoted as #2 of all time worldwide although I've yet to see a roper breakdown. The Eagles' world sales aren't all that much more than the American figure. That 70s Greatest Hits album isn't even the one that sells for them globally.


1. I forgot about Whitney Houston's Bodyguard. THAT album was a huge sale.

2. Alanis' Jagged Little Pill did sell millions. But 30 million? I'm not sure about that. But I'll research for more info.

3. THIS Kenny G album is consider the biggest selling "jazz" album of all time (It stay on Billboard's Top 200 album charts for more than 2 years, plus stay with the Top 20 jazz album chart for damn nearly TWICE as long!!! disbelief ), no thanks to the fact that it's the smooth jazz style being package as a pure pop album:


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Reply #63 posted 07/05/07 4:53pm

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The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 07/05/07 4:56pm

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TonyVanDam said:


The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin

maybe if michael gave Tatiana a chance and dated her.. maybe he would have been a diff man
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Reply #65 posted 07/06/07 12:37am

MartyMcFly

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Bad 20 Part 2- I Just Can't Stop Loving You

I JUST CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU

written by Michael Jackson

Recorded in 1987 with Quincy Jones protege Siedah Garrett after Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand
turned the song down. Siedah didn't even know Quincy wanted her to do the duet until she came to the
actual recording session.

The spoken intro was recorded while Michael was laying in the bed. It was later edited from later pressings from the album and compilations.


Anyone know why? confuse
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Reply #66 posted 07/06/07 10:16am

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MartyMcFly said:

bboy87 said:

Bad 20 Part 2- I Just Can't Stop Loving You

I JUST CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU

written by Michael Jackson

Recorded in 1987 with Quincy Jones protege Siedah Garrett after Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand
turned the song down. Siedah didn't even know Quincy wanted her to do the duet until she came to the
actual recording session.

The spoken intro was recorded while Michael was laying in the bed. It was later edited from later pressings from the album and compilations.


Anyone know why? confuse

Apparently, it wasn't on all the master tapes so it wasn't included on later editions
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Reply #67 posted 07/06/07 10:25am

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TotalAlisa said:

TonyVanDam said:


The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin

maybe if michael gave Tatiana a chance and dated her.. maybe he would have been a diff man


not meant as a flame, but Michael has no interest in women.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #68 posted 07/06/07 5:44pm

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TotalAlisa said:

TonyVanDam said:


The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin

maybe if michael gave Tatiana a chance and dated her.. maybe he would have been a diff man


Indeed! nod
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Reply #69 posted 07/06/07 10:15pm

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TonyVanDam said:


The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin


Omg, the 25 minute version is terrible lol. I remember seeing it a few years ago and just laughing hysterically. I know it wasn't meant to be funny but the whole scene with the gangs in the beginning was funny to me for some reason.

I love the shorter version. Great video, very memorable. The only song from that album that had a better video was "Smooth Criminal".
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

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Reply #70 posted 07/07/07 8:18pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

TonyVanDam said:


The 9 minute short film was directed by Joe Pytka and co-starred model Tatiana Thumbtzen.
The short film premiered worldwide on October 31, 1987. A 25 minute version exists and has been screened
at Michael's home Neverland Ranch.

I wish Michael (or ANYONE for that matter) would post it on YouTube soon. biggrin


Omg, the 25 minute version is terrible lol. I remember seeing it a few years ago and just laughing hysterically. I know it wasn't meant to be funny but the whole scene with the gangs in the beginning was funny to me for some reason.

I love the shorter version. Great video, very memorable. The only song from that album that had a better video was "Smooth Criminal".

You've seen the 25 minute version?! From what I know, Michael only has it and was rarely screened at Neverland.
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Reply #71 posted 07/09/07 6:33pm

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AlexdeParis said:

silverchild said:

I can't even listen to songs like Speed Demon or Leave Me Alone anymore because it makes me throw up in my own mouth.

Really? Those are two of my favorites.



I agree. Album has dated alot, but I love the sound of "bad". As I said before, "speed demon" is a fucking monster. For 1987, nobody was using digital sampling like that cut (paul hardcastle and art of noise were but usually in mono, not stereo). That song musta cost a hell of alot back then. Just for drum programming alone, track is a killer and ahead of its time. Then u have the inx's like guitar riff, the midi sax solo (a synth immitating a real sax LOL), the mixing the synclavier with real percussion etc... track is amazing. That cut alone was head and shoulders above anything else production wise at the time. And "Speed demon" still sounds fantastic today.

Even album tracks like "just good friends" are so dense and so deep in synths and drum programming, its impossible for me, not to love it. But that is the exact reason why people hate the album in general. People hate the production, and that album is all about what was then state of the art sounds. Other highlights are the supreme multitracked vocals in "leave me alone" (listen to the chorus), the solo in "bad", the guitar motobike effect on "speed demon" etc... I friggin; love the album from a production standpoint. Still nothing sounds like it today, whilst tracks on "thriller", in my view, do sound worse ("baby be mine" "girl is mine" "PYT").

Hear "bad" over good headphones, its amazing.
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Reply #72 posted 07/09/07 8:26pm

waw2002

I wish he would have done Liberian Girl live on the Bad Tour. While I'm on the topic I also wish I could hear him do Give into me and Who is it live.
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Reply #73 posted 07/09/07 8:51pm

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BAD 20 PART FIVE MAN IN THE MIRROR


written by Glen Ballard and Siedah Garrett

One of Michael's most memorable singles

Written in late 1986 when Quincy and Michael felt the album needed an anthem with a positve message.
At the time, Quincy's publishing company so one Thursday, he had some of the writers come over to his house to discuss
the concept. That following Sunday, Siedah Garrett, who worked with Ballard, stopped by his house with the song.
The song was written in 2 hours

The first short film, which didn't feature Michael, blended clips of current clips of the 1980s along
with clips of historic figures

The second version, featured on the 1988 movie "Moonwalker". blends clips of various performances on the Bad Tour

Performed on the 1988 Grammy Awards with the Andrae Crouch choir. Also performed on the 1988-89 legs
of the Bad World Tour


michael in 1986 recording the album





Hot 100-#1
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#1
Single Airplay-#1
Canada-#6
UK-#21
Australia-#39
Austria-#10
Belgium-#11
Denmark-#16
Finland-?
France-#18
Germany-#23
Holland-#13
Ireland-#3
Italy-#16
Japan-#93
New Zealand-#4
South Africa-?
Spain-#11
Switzerland-#?
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Reply #74 posted 07/09/07 8:52pm

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Though the album is faultless next to most artists records I have heard, my favs are


"Bad"
"The Way You Make Me Feel"
"Speed Demon"
"Liberian Girl"
"Just Good Friends"
"Another Part of Me"
"Man In The Mirror"
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
"Dirty Diana"
"Smooth Criminal"
"Leave Me Alone"


And seriously, "just good friends" would be in my top 5 fav Michael Jackson cuts. I love that song to death.
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Reply #75 posted 07/09/07 9:00pm

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bboy87 said:



WTF? eek lol They're all three experiencing the same thing, but they're having completely different moments! lol The one on the right is tickled as shit, the middle one looks sick, and the other one looks like she's praying.

That said, lots of good info in here! I only read the first two parts, but I'll read the others tomorrow. Thanks for this! I remember waiting and waiting for this album and being disappointed that he chose to release a slow song first. I liked the song (and still do to a point), but I wanted some dancing AND a video!
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Reply #76 posted 07/09/07 9:07pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

bboy87 said:



WTF? eek lol They're all three experiencing the same thing, but they're having completely different moments! lol The one on the right is tickled as shit, the middle one looks sick, and the other one looks like she's praying.

That said, lots of good info in here! I only read the first two parts, but I'll read the others tomorrow. Thanks for this! I remember waiting and waiting for this album and being disappointed that he chose to release a slow song first. I liked the song (and still do to a point), but I wanted some dancing AND a video!



I like Michaels belt LOL. Surprised no video was made for "I just cant stop loving you". That song is a zillion times better then "the girl is mine" (which is also MOR Jackson style). One thing I like about "i just cant stop loving you" is that it is not a power ballad and Michael (or Quincy) keeps the production simple and lets his vocals shine out front. Shame Michael cant write these simple, nice love songs anymore sad
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Reply #77 posted 07/14/07 11:07am

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BAD PART SIX- DIRTY DIANA

DIRTY DIANA


written by Michael Jackson

somewhat the hard rock version of 1982's "Billie Jean", it was cited as Michael's favorite song on the album.

Guitarist Steve Stevens, Billy Idol's lead guitarist, made a special appearance on the song and in the 1988 video

The fifth single and fifth to hit #1 on the Hot 100, giving the album a record 5 #1 singles, a record
that has yet to be broken.
also charted at #5 on the R&B charts and #4 in the UK.

It was Michael's first live video. Filmed in Long Beach California by Joe Pytka and premiered on April 14, 1988, while
Michael was performing in Atlanta Georgia at the Omni during the USA leg of the Bad Tour.

Various performances of the song were aired on TV from the tour in Kansas City, New York City, and Rome.

Quincy Jones likened the song to an uptempo version of Roberta Flack's Killing Me Softly and liked how
the theatrics in the song.
In 2003, Jones also said it was "one of those songs you just can't mess up because you can feel
it's coming from a deep place in his life."

Ben Liebrand's remix of the song includes samples of the 1981 live version of Rock With You, Beat It
and State of Shock.


Hot 100-#1
R&B-#5
Single Sales-#3
Single Airplay-#1
Canada-#15
UK-#4
Australia-#27
Austria-#7
Belgium-#1
Denmark-#2
Finland-#16
France-#7
Germany-#3
Holland-#2
Ireland-#3
Italy-18
Japan-?
New Zealand-#5
South Africa-?
Spain-#16/#1 in 2006
Switzerland-#5
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Reply #78 posted 07/14/07 11:16am

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thesexofit said:

Though the album is faultless next to most artists records I have heard, my favs are


"Bad"
"The Way You Make Me Feel"
"Speed Demon"
"Liberian Girl"
"Just Good Friends"
"Another Part of Me"
"Man In The Mirror"
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
"Dirty Diana"
"Smooth Criminal"
"Leave Me Alone"


And seriously, "just good friends" would be in my top 5 fav Michael Jackson cuts. I love that song to death.


I don't understand the hate this song gets sometimes. It sounds like Mike and Stevie are having fun on this track(much better than then duets Mike did with Paul) and its probably the best pop vocal I've heard from both artists. Plus the music is perfectly arranged. classic
At this point in history, we have a choice to make
To either, walk the path of love, or be crippled by our hate
-Stevie Wonder
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Reply #79 posted 07/14/07 11:19am

JoeTyler

Bad isn't the second best-selling album of all time...
tinkerbell
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Reply #80 posted 07/14/07 11:21am

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JoeTyler said:

Bad isn't the second best-selling album of all time...

my mistake. It was the second biggest selling album of all time, selling over 29 million copies worldwide
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Reply #81 posted 07/24/07 6:42pm

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BAD 20 PART SEVEN- ANOTHER PART OF ME

ANOTHER PART OF ME


written by Michael Jackson in 1985

Originally featured in the 1986 Disney short film "Captain EO", which premiered at Epcot Center in
Orlando Florida on September 12, 1986 and was directed by Francis Ford Coppola and produced by George
Lucas, costing $30 million

Included on the Bad album in 1987 instead of Streetwalker. Quincy Jones preferred Another Part of Me whereas Michael favored
the latter which had been originally written for a unreleased Broadway play titled "Street Dandy"
The deciding factor was Frank Dileo dancing to APOM.

The sixth single from the album released in the summer of 1988. Peaked at #11 on the Hot 100 but went
to #1 on the R&B charts, making it the sixth Pop/R&B #1 single from the album. Peaked at #15 in the UK

The live video filmed during Michael's European leg of the Bad World Tour in either Paris France or London England.
Directed by Patrick T. Kelly, it premiered during the 30 minute MTV special "Another Part Of Me", a
follow up to their "From Motown To Your Town" special that premiered earlier that year.

Various performances in Kansas City, Rome, and Tokyo and other areas have been aired on television.

Performed on the second and third leg of the 1987-89 BAD World Tour.


Hot 100-#11
R&B-#1
Single Sales-#10
Single Airplay-#8
Canada-#46
UK-#15
Australia-#49
Austria-#20
Belgium-#3
Denmark-#10
Finland-#2
France-#21
Germany-#10
Holland-#8
Ireland-#5
Italy-?
Japan-?
New Zealand-#14
South Africa-?
Spain-#31
Switzerland-#5
Zimbabwe-?
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Reply #82 posted 07/24/07 8:45pm

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Virgin Superstar? falloff

great band name...
Space for sale...
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Reply #83 posted 07/25/07 12:05am

alphastreet

thesexofit said:

AlexdeParis said:


Really? Those are two of my favorites.



I agree. Album has dated alot, but I love the sound of "bad". As I said before, "speed demon" is a fucking monster. For 1987, nobody was using digital sampling like that cut (paul hardcastle and art of noise were but usually in mono, not stereo). That song musta cost a hell of alot back then. Just for drum programming alone, track is a killer and ahead of its time. Then u have the inx's like guitar riff, the midi sax solo (a synth immitating a real sax LOL), the mixing the synclavier with real percussion etc... track is amazing. That cut alone was head and shoulders above anything else production wise at the time. And "Speed demon" still sounds fantastic today.

Even album tracks like "just good friends" are so dense and so deep in synths and drum programming, its impossible for me, not to love it. But that is the exact reason why people hate the album in general. People hate the production, and that album is all about what was then state of the art sounds. Other highlights are the supreme multitracked vocals in "leave me alone" (listen to the chorus), the solo in "bad", the guitar motobike effect on "speed demon" etc... I friggin; love the album from a production standpoint. Still nothing sounds like it today, whilst tracks on "thriller", in my view, do sound worse ("baby be mine" "girl is mine" "PYT").

Hear "bad" over good headphones, its amazing.


I agree that bad on headphones is heavenly hahah I listened to it for ages on my discman at night when I first bought it in the 90's and would close my eyes and felt like I was at an mj concert just for me hehehe
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Reply #84 posted 07/25/07 4:25am

MartyMcFly

Cheek said:

MikeMatronik said:

Your lack of sense of humour is puzzling


First you should learn what things you should not make fun of. neutral


Like Madonna! boxed
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Reply #85 posted 07/25/07 9:36am

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here are some performances:

Another Part Of Me(Kansas City 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...7c69mRlfkY

This Place Hotel(New York)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...m2XqyZcqzc

from the recently leaked "Live in Brisbane '87"
Off The Wall
http://www.youtube.com/wa...6Cx6B7OHYk

Lovely One
http://www.youtube.com/wa...XLRpQdeqmM

Human Nature
http://www.youtube.com/wa...jywI7nc_PQ


Bad(Live at Wembley Stadium)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Xd_ZzMPfJA

Dirty Diana(Barcelona Spain)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...WjnwW1QE-M
and in Kansas City
http://www.youtube.com/wa...JpLGQpngDI
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Reply #86 posted 07/25/07 9:54am

Abdul

bboy87 I got a question about Dirty Diana:

I think the song is about groupies and golddiggers but is it also a dig at Diana Ross?
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Reply #87 posted 07/30/07 2:09pm

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Abdul said:

bboy87 I got a question about Dirty Diana:

I think the song is about groupies and golddiggers but is it also a dig at Diana Ross?

It could've been, but I'm not unsure. Knowing Michael was kinda pissed at her at the time. It's also been rumored that the girl in the video was a swipe at Tatiana Thumbtzen. She and Michael were really into each other but when they kissed on stage, Frank Dileo and others fired her from the tour because they didn't want her to get close to MJ
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Reply #88 posted 07/30/07 2:25pm

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Why was he pissed at Diana?
wwww.myspace.com/chessvalentine
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Reply #89 posted 07/30/07 2:34pm

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BillieSparks said:

Why was he pissed at Diana?

Michael still had a crush on her and he was hurt when she married Arne Naess Jr
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