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Thread started 07/01/07 1:43pm

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Bob Geldof's Comments about LIVE EARTH show his stupidity

Now BOB the creator of Live Aid and Live8 may have always been looked at as a great organizer and socially concsious guy, but it seems if he is not the organizer he takes issue. I recently read his comments along with Roger Daltreys comments about the Live Earth concerts and it just didnt seem to make sense. Bob basically said he saw no need for them because there wasnt a Goal? and they werent working towards anything. Hmmm really Bob, arent these concerts going on next week really nothing more than Earth day concerts just on a bigger stage. What was the point behind LIVE8? except to maybe have a 20 year anniversary show of LIVE AID. Not to rag on BOB but i really remember alot of issues going on back in the mid-late 80's talking about what was and wasnt happening with money generated from Live AId, including MANY performers who said they wish they didnt do the show when they found out the dissaray that whole organized effort was going through. Bob did a good deed, but you cant just always think there is a short range goal, like "feed the world" which 25 years later hasnt worked, in fact its gotten worse.

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Reply #1 posted 07/01/07 2:13pm

MikeMatronik

bob geldof is wack!
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Reply #2 posted 07/01/07 2:19pm

Illustrator

Damn.
I'm hungry.
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Reply #3 posted 07/01/07 2:20pm

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Damn.
I'm hungry.


Some Brasilian "Feijoada"?

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Reply #4 posted 07/01/07 3:31pm

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^^ mmmmm that looks GOOD!
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Reply #5 posted 07/01/07 11:11pm

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maybe he was having an off day
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I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #6 posted 07/01/07 11:26pm

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Honestly, if they aren't raising money (Live Earth, Live 8) then it's basically just rock stars patting themselves on the back for being great humanitarians when they don't actually have to do anything shrug


Concerts are cool, but let's not kid ourselves in thinking they're going to make a difference.
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Reply #7 posted 07/01/07 11:48pm

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Bob basically said he saw no need for them because there wasnt a Goal? and they werent working towards anything.

Bob did a good deed, but you cant just always think there is a short range goal, like "feed the world" which 25 years later hasnt worked, in fact its gotten worse.. hmmm




So i guess sending dry fucking wheat to the dessert is a good thing aye BOBBY !! mad
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Reply #8 posted 07/02/07 1:49am

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Raze said:

Honestly, if they aren't raising money (Live Earth, Live 8) then it's basically just rock stars patting themselves on the back for being great humanitarians when they don't actually have to do anything shrug


Concerts are cool, but let's not kid ourselves in thinking they're going to make a difference.



exactly. lots of artists probably join either because of the exposure
or because they feel they have to be there since everyone else who'll
matter is part of it.

and that's all fine as long as it gathers up money to help others.

but the problem is that in more than half of the cases (probably even
in like 80%) the money never reaches the people who need it most. the
people for whom the original concept was thought out in the 1st place

somewhere along the lines of these multi-involvement projects, theres
always some people pocketing the odd million or two for themselves as
they distribute the money to others who also scrape off some etc etc.

as a million dollar earning artist i guess you'd be much better off to
just donate regular smaller amounts to local projects around the world
and track the money etc. to make sure it's actually used for what it's
intended for.

i don't really see how these big shows and marathon televised shows to
help people in disaster area's for example really help out that much..
it's just a way to buy off your guilt and bad feeling at watching them
on tv.

at the end of the day there's a nice big scoreboard to show us how much
money we've collectively raised to help others. then we turn off the tv
and the money is already being skimmed. from huge amounts at the top to
dollars and dimes at the bottom layers.

it's all just so damn warped.

big artists like madonna performing on Live8 and dragging that girl out
onto the stage. it made me feel very uncomfortable.

in the end, all this does is make madonna more popular and boost up her
album sales.

it'd be cool if those artists who get such massive exposure on such a
day would not just perform for free (whilst getting the promotion they
dream of for free as well).

it would be so much more cool if they'd say "ok so i'll perform and in
the next 2 months, every single album sold out of my back catalogue is
going to be donated to the charity as well"

biggrin

let's see how many show up razz
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #9 posted 07/02/07 1:50am

Raze

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IstenSzek said:

Raze said:

Honestly, if they aren't raising money (Live Earth, Live 8) then it's basically just rock stars patting themselves on the back for being great humanitarians when they don't actually have to do anything shrug


Concerts are cool, but let's not kid ourselves in thinking they're going to make a difference.



exactly. lots of artists probably join either because of the exposure
or because they feel they have to be there since everyone else who'll
matter is part of it.

and that's all fine as long as it gathers up money to help others.

but the problem is that in more than half of the cases (probably even
in like 80%) the money never reaches the people who need it most. the
people for whom the original concept was thought out in the 1st place

somewhere along the lines of these multi-involvement projects, theres
always some people pocketing the odd million or two for themselves as
they distribute the money to others who also scrape off some etc etc.

as a million dollar earning artist i guess you'd be much better off to
just donate regular smaller amounts to local projects around the world
and track the money etc. to make sure it's actually used for what it's
intended for.

i don't really see how these big shows and marathon televised shows to
help people in disaster area's for example really help out that much..
it's just a way to buy off your guilt and bad feeling at watching them
on tv.

at the end of the day there's a nice big scoreboard to show us how much
money we've collectively raised to help others. then we turn off the tv
and the money is already being skimmed. from huge amounts at the top to
dollars and dimes at the bottom layers.

it's all just so damn warped.

big artists like madonna performing on Live8 and dragging that girl out
onto the stage. it made me feel very uncomfortable.

in the end, all this does is make madonna more popular and boost up her
album sales.

it'd be cool if those artists who get such massive exposure on such a
day would not just perform for free (whilst getting the promotion they
dream of for free as well).

it would be so much more cool if they'd say "ok so i'll perform and in
the next 2 months, every single album sold out of my back catalogue is
going to be donated to the charity as well"

biggrin

let's see how many show up razz



Hell, Prince is (possibly) going to be a part of it, and all he's doing is trying to sell some perfume falloff
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Reply #10 posted 07/02/07 1:53am

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Raze said:



Hell, Prince is (possibly) going to be a part of it, and all he's doing is trying to sell some perfume falloff


you know prince. he'd be like "send them some free perfume! they may live
in dire circumstances but at least they'll smell nice. i'll call manuela,
ask her if she's still got some scented candles in the store room as well"

biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 07/02/07 1:53am

Raze

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IstenSzek said:

Raze said:

Honestly, if they aren't raising money (Live Earth, Live 8) then it's basically just rock stars patting themselves on the back for being great humanitarians when they don't actually have to do anything shrug


Concerts are cool, but let's not kid ourselves in thinking they're going to make a difference.



exactly. lots of artists probably join either because of the exposure
or because they feel they have to be there since everyone else who'll
matter is part of it.

and that's all fine as long as it gathers up money to help others.

but the problem is that in more than half of the cases (probably even
in like 80%) the money never reaches the people who need it most. the
people for whom the original concept was thought out in the 1st place

somewhere along the lines of these multi-involvement projects, theres
always some people pocketing the odd million or two for themselves as
they distribute the money to others who also scrape off some etc etc.

as a million dollar earning artist i guess you'd be much better off to
just donate regular smaller amounts to local projects around the world
and track the money etc. to make sure it's actually used for what it's
intended for.

i don't really see how these big shows and marathon televised shows to
help people in disaster area's for example really help out that much..
it's just a way to buy off your guilt and bad feeling at watching them
on tv.

at the end of the day there's a nice big scoreboard to show us how much
money we've collectively raised to help others. then we turn off the tv
and the money is already being skimmed. from huge amounts at the top to
dollars and dimes at the bottom layers.

it's all just so damn warped.

big artists like madonna performing on Live8 and dragging that girl out
onto the stage. it made me feel very uncomfortable.

in the end, all this does is make madonna more popular and boost up her
album sales.

it'd be cool if those artists who get such massive exposure on such a
day would not just perform for free (whilst getting the promotion they
dream of for free as well).

it would be so much more cool if they'd say "ok so i'll perform and in
the next 2 months, every single album sold out of my back catalogue is
going to be donated to the charity as well"

biggrin

let's see how many show up razz



i agree with what you're saying. but my real point is that there seems to have been a shift recently. Live Earth and Live 8 aren't actually even asking for donations. they're just concerts to "raise awareness" as if we'd never heard about children starving in Africa or global warming.

but anyway, the awareness has been raised (though i don't know how, if you're just listing to someone rattle off their hits), then what? it just ends up being a nice 24 hours of concert and everyone says "oh, that was nice" and the next day everything is the same. shrug
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Reply #12 posted 07/02/07 1:59am

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Raze said:

i agree with what you're saying. but my real point is that there seems to have been a shift recently. Live Earth and Live 8 aren't actually even asking for donations. they're just concerts to "raise awareness" as if we'd never heard about children starving in Africa or global warming.

but anyway, the awareness has been raised (though i don't know how, if you're just listing to someone rattle off their hits), then what? it just ends up being a nice 24 hours of concert and everyone says "oh, that was nice" and the next day everything is the same. shrug


exactly! nod

it's one thing to be aware of an issue. it's another to do something about it.
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