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Thread started 06/29/07 12:30pm

sextonseven

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Hell has frozen over: Sonic Youth signs with Starbucks

From Billboard.com:

Sonic Youth's 'Hits' Heading To Starbucks

June 29, 2007, 10:10 AM ET
Michael Paoletta, N.Y.


In a recent interview, Sonic Youth guitarist Thurston Moore mentioned that the band needed to record a new song for a Starbucks compilation. Within minutes of his remarks hitting the Internet, chat rooms and fan sites were awash in cries of "foul" and "sellouts."

For many, the idea of the ultimate indie art band getting into bed with the ultimate mainstream lifestyle brand was pure blasphemy. "I never thought of it as being more radical than recording for Universal Music," Moore tells Billboard. "They're both corporations that have ties to things that people find sort of problematic."

The compilation in question, "Hits Are for Squares," is a co-release by Starbucks Entertainment and Universal Special Markets. Scheduled for release early next year, it will be sold at select Starbucks locations in eight U.S. markets (including New York, Chicago and Seattle) as well as online at hearmusic.com.

In addition to one new, exclusive track, the limited-edition CD features Sonic Youth songs, handpicked by Chloe Sevigny, Dave Eggers, Michelle Williams and other enthusiasts. Participants will also each write a few words, explaining their selections, for the liner notes.

"I guess, for some, Sonic Youth represents something that they don't really equate with Starbucks," Moore says. "But I kind of like the absurdity of it. Sonic Youth has always, in a way, made itself available to the super mainstream."

"In a way, Sonic Youth has a branded name," he continues. "People know the name, but not necessarily our music, which might be a little too outsider for some. And when they do hear a little something, it doesn't tell the whole story. I thought it would be interesting to have a CD available in a store like Starbucks where the casual consumer can sort of have access to [our music] more readily."

Sonic Youth has yet to record its own contribution to the compilation, but was recently in the studio recording an unidentified Bob Dylan cover that may be used in Todd Haynes' upcoming film "I'm Not There."

Moore is also looking ahead to the Sept. 18 release of a new solo album, "Trees Outside the Academy," which he will support with some live shows.

"Hopefully, I'll get together the group that plays on the record, including Steve Shelley," he says. "Samara Lubelski from Brooklyn plays the electric violin, which acts as a second instrument on almost every track. J Mascis from Dinosaur Jr. plays some killer guitar all over the record. And I play all the acoustic guitar and bass on it. It's a pretty heavy song-based record."

http://www.billboard.com/...1003605708
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Reply #1 posted 06/29/07 1:08pm

namepeace

You know, Starbucks does a pretty good job of pushing music from artists who have always been OR are currently underappreciated. I think Sonic Youth's move is pretty smart.

Besides, they're a major label act anyways.
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Reply #2 posted 06/29/07 2:29pm

MikeMatronik

And?

I don't see any harm with this. If the music of band is still of quality...why not?
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Reply #3 posted 06/29/07 3:47pm

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There is nothing wrong with this at all, and you are going to see ALOT more of it trust me. Next to follow, Bob Dylan, Alanis and Jewel (Jewel just ended her label stay with WEA). The thing is that Labels arent really looking for artists anymore, they are looking for someone they can push everywhere, labels want, people that be put on magazine covers, do videos, and sell ringtones. Sonic's move is a good one, just like McCartneys was, do you realize that in 3 weeks McCartney has already OUTSOLD his last album on Emi, how did he do it? Really nothing different, except Starbucks is playing him in their locations, and featuring it front and center, its no different than when a label jams a Ne-yo or Rihanna song/video down your throat 24/7. Nothing is gonna change with artists that go to Starbucks, they arent gonna start changing their sound, the artists that are going over are already established.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #4 posted 07/02/07 1:54pm

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Despite the little sad face I attached to the thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with this either. Did I ever see it coming? Not at all, but if SY can fool Starbucks into selling their noise (and I mean 'noise' in the most complimentary sense), then good for them. Maybe some of those conservative Starbucks' patrons can even be converted. What I hope doesn't happen is the opposite and that SY fans will suddenly flock to Starbucks and begin supporting them. Judging from the grumblings I've heard on the SY message boards, that dosen't seem too likely. lol
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Reply #5 posted 07/02/07 2:29pm

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sextonseven said:

Despite the little sad face I attached to the thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with this either. Did I ever see it coming? Not at all, but if SY can fool Starbucks into selling their noise (and I mean 'noise' in the most complimentary sense), then good for them. Maybe some of those conservative Starbucks' patrons can even be converted. What I hope doesn't happen is the opposite and that SY fans will suddenly flock to Starbucks and begin supporting them. Judging from the grumblings I've heard on the SY message boards, that dosen't seem too likely. lol
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Starbucks has become a pretty good place to peddle music to those who are too stupid or too rich to see how grossly overpriced the cds are.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Beck, White Stripes, Lily Allen, the Police, Prince all have sold albums through good ole facist-ass Starbucks heart

God, I love my job lol
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Reply #6 posted 07/02/07 2:33pm

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thekidsgirl said:

sextonseven said:

Despite the little sad face I attached to the thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with this either. Did I ever see it coming? Not at all, but if SY can fool Starbucks into selling their noise (and I mean 'noise' in the most complimentary sense), then good for them. Maybe some of those conservative Starbucks' patrons can even be converted. What I hope doesn't happen is the opposite and that SY fans will suddenly flock to Starbucks and begin supporting them. Judging from the grumblings I've heard on the SY message boards, that dosen't seem too likely. lol
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Starbucks has become a pretty good place to peddle music to those who are too stupid or too rich to see how grossly overpriced the cds are.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Beck, White Stripes, Lily Allen, the Police, Prince all have sold albums through good ole facist-ass Starbucks heart

God, I love my job lol


Oh yeah, you work for Starbucks. boxed
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Reply #7 posted 07/02/07 2:42pm

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sextonseven said:

thekidsgirl said:



Starbucks has become a pretty good place to peddle music to those who are too stupid or too rich to see how grossly overpriced the cds are.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Beck, White Stripes, Lily Allen, the Police, Prince all have sold albums through good ole facist-ass Starbucks heart

God, I love my job lol


Oh yeah, you work for Starbucks. boxed


Unfortunately biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 07/02/07 2:46pm

sextonseven

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thekidsgirl said:

sextonseven said:



Oh yeah, you work for Starbucks. boxed


Unfortunately biggrin


Does the chain ever play these exclusive discs in the stores? I would love to see the looks on some people's faces when they hear Thurston Moore doing his feedback thing. lol

grammar
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Reply #9 posted 07/02/07 3:17pm

thekidsgirl

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sextonseven said:

thekidsgirl said:



Unfortunately biggrin


Does the chain ever play these exclusive discs in the stores? I would love to see the looks on some people's faces when they hear Thurston Moore doing his feedback thing. lol

grammar
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We have like compilation cds of the music we sell playing throughout the day, but some artists get more play than others. For instance, if I have to hear too much more Corinne Bailey Rae, I'm gonna saw my ears off with a rusty blade biggrin
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Reply #10 posted 07/02/07 3:19pm

namepeace

thekidsgirl said:

Starbucks has become a pretty good place to peddle music to those who are too stupid or too rich to see how grossly overpriced the cds are. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

Beck, White Stripes, Lily Allen, the Police, Prince all have sold albums through good ole facist-ass Starbucks heart

God, I love my job lol


You forgot too lazy . . . wave

Actually, I've never paid more than 13 bucks for a CD there. And that was Jem. And I felt ripped off. But their impulse! "Unrehearsed Jazz Perfection" CD at 9.99 was a steal.
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Reply #11 posted 07/03/07 2:54pm

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thekidsgirl said:

sextonseven said:



Does the chain ever play these exclusive discs in the stores? I would love to see the looks on some people's faces when they hear Thurston Moore doing his feedback thing. lol

grammar
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We have like compilation cds of the music we sell playing throughout the day, but some artists get more play than others. For instance, if I have to hear too much more Corinne Bailey Rae, I'm gonna saw my ears off with a rusty blade biggrin


lol

Coincidentally, I watched the movie Venus last night and Corrine did all the music in the film. Maybe you should stay away from that one.
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Reply #12 posted 07/03/07 8:26pm

Tom

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ironically, most of the people bitching about this are probabbly sitting at a starbucks on their laptops...
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Reply #13 posted 07/03/07 10:20pm

MsLegs

Tom said:

ironically, most of the people bitching about this are probabbly sitting at a starbucks on their laptops...

evillol
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Reply #14 posted 07/03/07 10:36pm

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sextonseven said:

Despite the little sad face I attached to the thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with this either. Did I ever see it coming? Not at all, but if SY can fool Starbucks into selling their noise (and I mean 'noise' in the most complimentary sense), then good for them. Maybe some of those conservative Starbucks' patrons can even be converted. What I hope doesn't happen is the opposite and that SY fans will suddenly flock to Starbucks and begin supporting them. Judging from the grumblings I've heard on the SY message boards, that dosen't seem too likely. lol
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well, they're probably sell to the not-conservative Starbucks empoloyees with 18 holes in their ears and faces and tattoos on their necks. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 07/03/07 10:57pm

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Raze said:

sextonseven said:

Despite the little sad face I attached to the thread, I don't think there's anything wrong with this either. Did I ever see it coming? Not at all, but if SY can fool Starbucks into selling their noise (and I mean 'noise' in the most complimentary sense), then good for them. Maybe some of those conservative Starbucks' patrons can even be converted. What I hope doesn't happen is the opposite and that SY fans will suddenly flock to Starbucks and begin supporting them. Judging from the grumblings I've heard on the SY message boards, that dosen't seem too likely. lol
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well, they're probably sell to the not-conservative Starbucks empoloyees with 18 holes in their ears and faces and tattoos on their necks. biggrin


HAH HOW FUNNY

TATTOO USED TO BE EDGY!

NOW JUST ANOTHER FACE IN CROWD

NEXT GENERATION REALLY GONNA HAVE TO RAISE BAR!

LIKE CHOP WHOLE ARM OFF

OR HAVE TAIL IMPLANT

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #16 posted 07/04/07 12:00am

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I don't see anything wrong with it. Signing with Starbucks is no different than signing with a label.

Ethically and legally, there's nothing wrong with the company, (except the jacked up prices for mediocre food, but that's not so much unethical as it is annoying) so there's no reason to be overly upset by thia.

My problem with Starbucks stems from the marketing exec's wet dream that's sold people into believe you can buy cool and hip from a coffee joint. confused
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Reply #17 posted 07/04/07 2:00am

MsLegs

meow85 said:

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My problem with Starbucks stems from the marketing exec's wet dream that's sold people into believe you can buy cool and hip from a coffee joint. confused

What you've stated is possibly the turn off with this spot.
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Reply #18 posted 07/04/07 2:18am

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Sonic Youth being played at Starbucks
mmm
i might start going there...
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Reply #19 posted 07/04/07 7:24am

Anxiety

sonic youth isn't so young anymore. they don't sell big to the tattooed kiddies. they mostly sell to gen-x'ers and music geeks of all ages.

not to mention, the people who think they're "sell-outs" need to go way back to when they signed with geffen, though they were at least smart enough to have a clause written into their contract that allowed the band to release "experimental music" through their own SY indie label.

thurston's always gotten a kick out of making the occasional sacriligious decision, just to poke fans with a proverbial stick and see if they're awake. that's what the "goo" album was all about, and that's why i love it. not only was it their first major label album, but it was also their attempt at writing top-40 mainstream pop songs (they failed beautifully).

i think it's a hoot that they're doing this. i hope it puts a few dollars in coco's college fund.
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