Now if someone would leak this!

the smashing pumpkins are my favorite band and everything,i don't know this album..dosen't excite me much!..heard of some of the tracks,it dosen't give you that smashing pumpkins vibe..but whatever..,

weepingwall said:

I made a promise that will only listen to it when it is released. But I'm afraid it will turn out being Zwan with a more profitable name...without James and D'Arcy it's not the same.

MikeMatronik said:

you've hit the nail on its head there, that's exactly what it is!

abierman said:

Abierman did you have the chance to see them live with this new lineup~?

no, I haven't.....actually, for me personally the magic was over after 'Mellon Collie....'.....Billy Corgan started to be a real dick eversince!
They've played a festival here in Holland just recently, reviews were not more than lukewarm.....

abierman said:

I had the same impression from what read here in the press. They performed here in Portugal also

Adore was pretty damn good for what it was...a 180 degree about-face from what the Pumpkins represented at the time. After that, I completely lost interest, however. I really can't imagine that the new album will rekindle my Pumpkins interest, which is a shame. I still love Pearl Jam to death, and would most likely share the same feelings towards Corgan and company...

Axchi696 said:

Have listened to MACHINA II/The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music? It's excelent.

http://www.billy-corgan.c...?page=mp3s

MikeMatronik said:

i've seen them at the pink pop festival where they were the headliners
and i have to admit that they sounded pretty good. billy was in rare
form and actually managed to sing quite well. my cousin who's really
into music and plays/sings herself thought she noticed some stuff that
made her believe he was using a backingtape though. anyway, eventhough
the show was good, it was boring. i left 30 minutes before the end.

the new album doesn't sound a lot like smashing pumpkins. it's got one
or two cool moments but that's about it. virtually none of the stuff i
fell in love with them for is featured on this album.

the impression it left with me after 3 complete spins is that it's an
album that comes at you like a wall of sound and only every 5 minutes
will something grab your attention for a few seconds, until it sinks
away again into a carcrash of guitars and instruments all mixed at a
really excruciatingly boring and monotone level.

i'm so fucking sad about this

if billy wants to cash in on the whole smashing pumpkins rep why not
just rade the vault and come up with an album's worth of outtakes or
alternate versions?

MikeMatronik said:

Machina II really does contain some truly great songs.

IstenSzek said:

Cash Car Star

IstenSzek said:

I like Zeitgeist...I reminds of the demo tapes they did in the early days...

IstenSzek check your pm...I know a place where u can get some "special stuff" like the Mashed Potatoes "Boxset"

MikeMatronik said:

Heavey Metal Machine [version 1]

weepingwall said:

Does it give you more of a Zwan zibe or a solo Corgan zibe....cause it's essentailly more that than the Smashing Pumpkins. Maybe not in sound, but certainly in creation.

I hear people talking about "Machina 2"....I could barely listen to the first outside the singles. It bored me.

VinnyM27 said:

machina II is quite different from the first imo. it's more diverse
and it's got some classic material on it.