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Thread started 06/26/07 9:07am

tonyat

Jacko and others vs. Jay-Z!!

Have you guys read this?.....

Jacked....

June 26, 2007 -- Megastars Michael Jackson, R. Kelly and more than a dozen music publishers have banded together against Jay-Z's 40/40 Club - rapping the Chelsea hotspot with a federal lawsuit for allegedly skimping on royalties.

The popular 40/40 Club, co-owned by Jay-Z and two business partners, has danced around licensing rules to entertain clubgoers with "unauthorized public performance of musical compositions," according to a lawsuit filed yesterday in Manhattan federal court.

Broadcast Music Inc. led the charge on behalf of Jackson and more than a dozen artists and music publishing companies, seeking unspecified damages for copyright infringement from the club and co-owners Desiree Gonzalez - who has the primary responsibility for operations and management - and Juan Perez.

Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, is not named.

Jacko's "Billie Jean" and "Don't Stop," "Thoia Thoing" by R. Kelly and "Gold Digger" by Kanye West, Ray Charles and Renald Richard, were among seven unlicensed songs played at the club during a random visit by a BMI researcher on two nights in March 2006.

Even singer Pharrell Williams, who has frequently collaborated with Jay-Z in the past, was not immune - his song "Touch" was also played without license.

BMI spokesman Jerry Bailey said the company holds the licensing rights to 6.5 million songs - roughly half those played in the United States - and has tried unsuccessfully to license the 40/40 Club since it opened in 2003. The lavish sports bar and lounge on West 25th Street boasts a $4 million multi-level space with dozens of televisions to view sporting events, and several private VIP rooms.

Michael Shen, a lawyer for the club, said he had not yet seen the lawsuit and declined further comment.

The legal action comes one month after the nightspot was hit with a cl*!@$%&**!@$%&**!@$%&* action lawsuit for allegedly keeping a cut of workers' tips in violation of minimum wage laws.

Celeste Williams, a former waitress at 40/40, accused the club of "willfully failing and refusing to pay [its workers] at the legally required minimum wage" since the nightspot opened in 2003.

Her lawyer claimed 100 staffers have been ripped off - although club management said Williams worked at 40/40 for only four days in December 2005 - in the suit seeking unspecified damages.
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/07 9:16am

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I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/07 9:20am

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Haha, shame on him. Jay-Z would be a debtor to one of our clients at work if it was over here, MCPS-PRS. We often go chasing after pub and club owners not paying music royalties.
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Reply #3 posted 06/26/07 9:36am

tonyat

banks said:

I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??


according to the article...yes!
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/07 11:27am

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banks said:

I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??


I don't know the exact law but all businesses that play music for entertainment purposes must pay fees that go to the songwriters/publishers. The money gets divied up by the songwriters associations much the same way that money from the radio stations does.

I think it's a yearly fee and it's probably not that much money either, sounds like the people running this club are straight hustlers/amateurs.

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Reply #5 posted 06/26/07 11:44am

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Ellie said:

Haha, shame on him. Jay-Z would be a debtor to one of our clients at work if it was over here, MCPS-PRS. We often go chasing after pub and club owners not paying music royalties.


Do you work for MCPS-PRS, Ellie?
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/07 11:46am

Ellie

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No, they're just a client of the company I work for. We do all the dirty work lol
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/07 12:01pm

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banks said:

I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??


Actually, no! They don't have to pay the artists, they have to pay the record companies that own the music who supposedly pay the artists.
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/07 1:06pm

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banks said:

I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??



yes. when i worked as Personal Asst for a restaurant owner we had to pay fee to ASCAP and BMI.
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Reply #9 posted 06/26/07 1:06pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

banks said:

I read this on the subway to work... so correct me if i'm wrong, for a place like 40/40 to play your music in the bar/restaurant they have to pay the artists ??


Actually, no! They don't have to pay the artists, they have to pay the record companies that own the music who supposedly pay the artists.



no you pay the Publishing companies.
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/07 1:29pm

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ehuffnsd said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:



Actually, no! They don't have to pay the artists, they have to pay the record companies that own the music who supposedly pay the artists.



no you pay the Publishing companies.


Ok! So, you pay the "Publishing Companies". I know the "Artists" don't get paid! wink
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Reply #11 posted 06/26/07 1:56pm

Ellie

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It's the publishers and the songwriters that get royalties. If the artist didn't write the song then I don't think they're entitled to anything.
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Reply #12 posted 06/26/07 2:26pm

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Ellie said:

It's the publishers and the songwriters that get royalties. If the artist didn't write the song then I don't think they're entitled to anything.


they only get paid when a unit is sold. That's why B throws her name on every song she sings as a songwriter.
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Reply #13 posted 06/26/07 2:39pm

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Exactly. Although I do sometimes wonder if the "change a word, take a third" artist "songwriters" actually get much from songwriting royalties. Most of the time it's a credibility thing - surely the real writers would be pissed off if they were getting paid for it aswell.
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