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Webcasters to Go Silent in Protest of Royalty Rate Increase Millions of Internet Radio Listeners Urged to Defend the Future of Net Radio WASHINGTON D.C. - Thousands of U.S. webcasters plan to turn off the music and go silent this Tuesday, June 26, to draw attention to an impending royalty rate increase that, if implemented, would lead to the virtual shutdown of this country's Internet radio industry. "The arbitrary and drastic rate increases set by the Copyright Royalty Board on March 2nd threaten the very livelihood of thousands of webcasters and their millions of listeners throughout the country," said Jake Ward, a spokesperson for the SaveNetRadio Coalition. "The campaign to save Internet radio - a genuine grassroots movement comprised of hundreds of thousands of webcasters, artists and independent labels, and Net radio listeners - has quickly brought this issue to the national forefront and the halls of Congress, but there is still more to be done before the approaching deadline of July 15th. On Tuesday, thousands of webcasters will call on their millions of listeners to join the fight to save Internet radio and contact their Congressional representatives to ask for their support of the Internet Radio Equality Act." Many webcasters are planning to shut off access to their streams entirely, while other webcasters plan to replace their music streams with long periods of silence (or static or ocean sounds or similar) interspersed with occasional brief public service announcements on the subject. Internet-only webcasters and broadcasters that simulcast online will alert their listeners that "silence" is what Internet radio may be reduced to after July 15th, the day on which 17 months' worth of retroactive royalty payments -- at new, exceedingly high rates -- are due to the SoundExchange collection organization, following a recent Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) decision. WHAT: National Day of Silence WHEN: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 WHO: The following is a PARTIAL list of participants; it is not a complete list: EmancipationRadio.com Yahoo! Live365 stations, Rhapsody, MTV Online, AccuRadio, KCRW (Santa Monica, CA), Pandora, Radioio, DigitallyImported, RadioParadise, 3WK, myMVY, Wizard Radio, Born Again Radio, Pearadio.com, Ear.fm, WGLI (Bablylon, NY), WMUK (Kalamazoo, MI), Head-On Radio Network, Zecom/Gemz Radio, monkeygrip music cafe, KFCF (Fresno, CA), LuckySevenRadio.com, Blue Power/Guitar Speak, WPNA (Oak Park, IL), 60's Chicks Radio/Seasons & Celebrations Radio, STAR 107.9, WRPS/WebRadioPugetSound, Puregold Rock 'N Roll, NeverEndingWonder Radio, RadioMilwaukee, BAGeL Radio, Gotradio/100hitz, KDUN (Reedsport, OR), GDRadio.net, KQLZ (Los Angeles, CA), KXPR/KXJZ (Sacramento, CA), NiceNoise.Net, BlackLight Radio, Pure Pop 24/7, Smooth Jazz and More, Reggae Nostalgia, WCH Radio/The Wave, WYGS Southern Gospel Radio Network, BluegrassCountry.org/WAMU.org, WRAJ Internet Radio Beauty, FREEdom, truth, light, love & peace 2 U all ~ From Your Emancipation Radio Fam www.emancipationradio.com | |
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Eh hmm!! This is a sticky worthy thread if there ever was one!!! | |
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Net radio is great alternative which has helped to break alot of new artist onto the scene. It's good that this issue is brought to light. [Edited 6/25/07 23:51pm] | |
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This thread needs a sticky- top of the page it should be. If it weren't for net radio I wouldn't be listening to any other music than what's played in my home. | |
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No sticky yet, eh? Well, back to the first page it goes! | |
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This is most DEFINITELY a sticky worthy thread!
Just another way our lawmakers are playing into the hands of big business fucks by not even allowing us to make our own choices. | |
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I posted a similar message about this a couple of months ago. Word definitely needs to be loud and clear now that time is running out. It would be a real shame to lose internet radio. "Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
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I don't get it. I mean, I understand the point of protesting the rate hikes, but I don't understand the participants. I've been listening to my Yahoo radio stations all day (this is the first I've heard about it), and there have been no interruptions. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: I don't get it. I mean, I understand the point of protesting the rate hikes, but I don't understand the participants. I've been listening to my Yahoo radio stations all day (this is the first I've heard about it), and there have been no interruptions.
Yahoo, may have just punked out under obligations to advertisers. Who knows? Not everyone in Internet Radio has advertisers to rely on. | |
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O.K., I've decided not to take sides on this--but I'm interested in what you guys think about the musician's take on this issue:
http://www.afm.org/public...icians.pdf http://www.afm.org/public...052307.php http://www.informationwee...queryText= [Edited 6/26/07 14:32pm] | |
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NuPwr319 said: O.K., I've decided not to take sides on this--but I'm interested in what you guys think about the musician's take on this issue:
http://www.afm.org/public...icians.pdf http://www.afm.org/public...052307.php http://www.informationwee...queryText= [Edited 6/26/07 14:32pm] Personally and this is just MY opinion...I think what the AFM had to say is a strategic regurgitation of propaganda set forth by those that will gain the most from the silencing of Internet Radio and that's certainly NOT the musicians nor the artists that make the music. A 19% rate for small webcasters, while charging satellite 7.5% and even less to mainstream broadcasters like Clear Channel is grossly unfair and reeks from the stench of a cowardice sneak attack on the competing ALTERNATIVES to those that gain the most from the silencing of Internet Radio and again that's NOT the musicians nor the artists! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: I don't get it. I mean, I understand the point of protesting the rate hikes, but I don't understand the participants. I've been listening to my Yahoo radio stations all day (this is the first I've heard about it), and there have been no interruptions.
yahoo radio has a huge music base equal to good ole school radio....internet radio tends to have a much smaller base (usually hundreds of listeners vs. millions) thus they have the revenue potential to pay the higher royalty rates. fyi folks: my boss supports the bill Space for sale... | |
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Well, you know, sometimes industry, directly or indirectly, loves to do things to cannibalize itself. What is being done with the royalty rates doesn't seem like good business in the long haul. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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I haven't listened to radio in years. But this is a very bad situation. | |
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sosgemini said: RipHer2Shreds said: I don't get it. I mean, I understand the point of protesting the rate hikes, but I don't understand the participants. I've been listening to my Yahoo radio stations all day (this is the first I've heard about it), and there have been no interruptions.
yahoo radio has a huge music base equal to good ole school radio....internet radio tends to have a much smaller base (usually hundreds of listeners vs. millions) thus they have the revenue potential to pay the higher royalty rates. fyi folks: my boss supports the bill I realized after I responded that I'm listening to the pay stations on yahoo. That's likely why I didn't get any interruptions. | |
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Stickied!!! | |
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What an interesting way to draw attention to something hardly anyone knows or cares about: completely shut down instead of talking about it. LOL. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: What an interesting way to draw attention to something hardly anyone knows or cares about: completely shut down instead of talking about it. LOL.
Space for sale... | |
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NuPwr319 said: O.K., I've decided not to take sides on this--but I'm interested in what you guys think about the musician's take on this issue:
http://www.afm.org/public...icians.pdf http://www.afm.org/public...052307.php http://www.informationwee...queryText= [Edited 6/26/07 14:32pm] I am a musician and I think one needs to get any exposure they can to succeed. Now if it was a normal radio station, sure musicians should get royalties. But how are they gonna get on that station if no one hears them? These are independent stations that simply can't afford these fees. I highly doubt anyone is losing money bvecause their song was played on the internet. Now in cases like Live365, I think perhaps they should pay something but not send the costs down to the broadcasters. We provide the "content" that drives people to their site. But even moreso...do the artists and musicians EVER get their fair share even if rates do go up...or is it the agencies that will reap the rewards. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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Raze said: What an interesting way to draw attention to something hardly anyone knows or cares about: completely shut down instead of talking about it. LOL.
Well that's not true. MANY people listen to online radio and have known about this for a while. There was a "dialogue" that consisted of advertisements asking people to write their congressmans about this. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: NuPwr319 said: O.K., I've decided not to take sides on this--but I'm interested in what you guys think about the musician's take on this issue:
http://www.afm.org/public...icians.pdf http://www.afm.org/public...052307.php http://www.informationwee...queryText= [Edited 6/26/07 14:32pm] I am a musician and I think one needs to get any exposure they can to succeed. Now if it was a normal radio station, sure musicians should get royalties. But how are they gonna get on that station if no one hears them? These are independent stations that simply can't afford these fees. I highly doubt anyone is losing money bvecause their song was played on the internet. Now in cases like Live365, I think perhaps they should pay something but not send the costs down to the broadcasters. We provide the "content" that drives people to their site. But even moreso...do the artists and musicians EVER get their fair share even if rates do go up...or is it the agencies that will reap the rewards. Musicians often get cut out of the profits even though we are the grease that makes the machine move. I don't understand why they would want to charge the hell out of smaller internet stations that obviously aren't going to be pulling in as much money. But I guess the terrestrial stations are owned by friends of those in the government so of course they can't step on THOSE toes. | |
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guitarslinger44 said: superspaceboy said: I am a musician and I think one needs to get any exposure they can to succeed. Now if it was a normal radio station, sure musicians should get royalties. But how are they gonna get on that station if no one hears them? These are independent stations that simply can't afford these fees. I highly doubt anyone is losing money bvecause their song was played on the internet. Now in cases like Live365, I think perhaps they should pay something but not send the costs down to the broadcasters. We provide the "content" that drives people to their site. But even moreso...do the artists and musicians EVER get their fair share even if rates do go up...or is it the agencies that will reap the rewards. Musicians often get cut out of the profits even though we are the grease that makes the machine move. I don't understand why they would want to charge the hell out of smaller internet stations that obviously aren't going to be pulling in as much money. But I guess the terrestrial stations are owned by friends of those in the government so of course they can't step on THOSE toes. I did notice that on LIVE365, if you were a paid subscriber, you got to listen to the radio. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: guitarslinger44 said: Musicians often get cut out of the profits even though we are the grease that makes the machine move. I don't understand why they would want to charge the hell out of smaller internet stations that obviously aren't going to be pulling in as much money. But I guess the terrestrial stations are owned by friends of those in the government so of course they can't step on THOSE toes. I did notice that on LIVE365, if you were a paid subscriber, you got to listen to the radio. Yahoo/Launchcast may have did the same. [Edited 6/28/07 8:10am] | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: NuPwr319 said: O.K., I've decided not to take sides on this--but I'm interested in what you guys think about the musician's take on this issue:
http://www.afm.org/public...icians.pdf http://www.afm.org/public...052307.php http://www.informationwee...queryText= [Edited 6/26/07 14:32pm] Personally and this is just MY opinion...I think what the AFM had to say is a strategic regurgitation of propaganda set forth by those that will gain the most from the silencing of Internet Radio and that's certainly NOT the musicians nor the artists that make the music. A 19% rate for small webcasters, while charging satellite 7.5% and even less to mainstream broadcasters like Clear Channel is grossly unfair and reeks from the stench of a cowardice sneak attack on the competing ALTERNATIVES to those that gain the most from the silencing of Internet Radio and again that's NOT the musicians nor the artists! Exactly. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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superspaceboy said: guitarslinger44 said: Musicians often get cut out of the profits even though we are the grease that makes the machine move. I don't understand why they would want to charge the hell out of smaller internet stations that obviously aren't going to be pulling in as much money. But I guess the terrestrial stations are owned by friends of those in the government so of course they can't step on THOSE toes. I did notice that on LIVE365, if you were a paid subscriber, you got to listen to the radio. Paid subscribers get to listen without advertisements. You do not have to pay to listen if you don't mind the ads. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Paid subscribers get to listen without advertisements. Same with Yahoo Launchcast | |
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