AnckSuNamun said: Why does Chris Brown keep popping up on these lists alongside legends?
There is a SERIOUS shortage of real talent out there right now. I remember when they were calling Babyface and R Kelly genius.....that always made me cringe. | |
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my dick!
Oh wait, it says "in" black music, not "with" http://prince.org/msg/100/263154?&pg=2
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Thriller81 said: I dig Michael Jackson, he's the greatest live performer of my time, I'm only 26. But I'm believe 100% that James Brown was the greatest live performer, period!
Just looking at that TAMI show performance alone, it's unbelievable. Live performer, as a singer, hands down, Patti Labelle. And she's not even one the list. What James Brown did with his feet, she does with her voice. [Edited 6/24/07 18:31pm] Preach it! I just saw her last night! No one can compare! | |
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GaryMF said: Thriller81 said: I dig Michael Jackson, he's the greatest live performer of my time, I'm only 26. But I'm believe 100% that James Brown was the greatest live performer, period!
Just looking at that TAMI show performance alone, it's unbelievable. Live performer, as a singer, hands down, Patti Labelle. And she's not even one the list. What James Brown did with his feet, she does with her voice. Preach it! I just saw her last night! No one can compare! Gladys can. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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One of these people better win:
Michael Jackson, Prince, James Brown or Stevie Wonder If none of them win, then I'm out. Never again will I care about these polls. Oh wait, I already don't care. Oh well. Here is to someone with REAL talent winning. (Sorry Usher and Chris..you gotta wait a few more decades.) | |
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The only people that belong on that list that they have are:
Prince Michael Jackson James Brown come on now... where's Stevie Wonder, Sammy Davis Jr., Jimi Hendrix???? | |
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JasonStar said: One of these people better win:
Michael Jackson, Prince, James Brown or Stevie Wonder If none of them win, then I'm out. Never again will I care about these polls. Oh wait, I already don't care. Oh well. Here is to someone with REAL talent winning. (Sorry Usher and Chris..you gotta wait a few more decades.) Well Stevie can't win because he ain't listed. "the Godfather" and "the Artist" have a long way to go as JB has 2% and Prince has 6% "King of Pop" is at the front with 57% more then the rest of the list combined. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: JasonStar said: One of these people better win:
Michael Jackson, Prince, James Brown or Stevie Wonder If none of them win, then I'm out. Never again will I care about these polls. Oh wait, I already don't care. Oh well. Here is to someone with REAL talent winning. (Sorry Usher and Chris..you gotta wait a few more decades.) Well Stevie can't win because he ain't listed. "the Godfather" and "the Artist" have a long way to go as JB has 2% and Prince has 6% "King of Pop" is at the front with 57% more then the rest of the list combined. But that's probably due to rabib fans who are so desperate to prove Michael is best so they bombard the lines. [Edited 6/25/07 2:41am] | |
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Prince is losing to Janet.....who simply just performs her videos live
and is tied with Chris BrownT he end is near...the end is near.... [Edited 6/25/07 6:27am] | |
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MsLegs said: CalhounSq said: The ONLY I reason I even clicked this thread is to see what ridiculous names they have up there, & they don't disappoint Half these bitches DON'T EVEN SING LIVE!!! How in the sam hell can you even be considered the "greatest" when your mic ain't on???
LAUGHABLE Case Closed. Furthermore, if it wasn't for James Brown, none of these people would have a career .Because alot of them were influenced by his grooves , moves, and stage presence. Preach it! What a bogus list. | |
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I say we file a class action lawsuit against BET for false advertising! This list just further demonstrates the fact that BET doesn't know shit about Black Entertainment!!
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In terms of a multi-faceted performer, Sammy Davis Jr. is hard to beat.
Name someone else who... Acts well (stage & screen) Sings well Dances well Does impressions & comedy Multi-instrumentalist ...has all those bases covered. tA Tribal Disorder http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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Hell, no one's mentioned Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, John Coltrane or The Quintet, but hey, jazz is just arguably black America's crowning cultural achievement. No biggie.
In any event, Sly Stone walking out and singing one chorus of "Take You Higher" at the Grammys last year is miles ahead of half of the folks on this list. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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theAudience said: In terms of a multi-faceted performer, Sammy Davis Jr. is hard to beat.
Name someone else who... Acts well (stage & screen) Sings well Dances well Does impressions & comedy Multi-instrumentalist ...has all those bases covered. tA Co-sign. Love definitely has to be given to the orginal Candyman and Rat Packer. | |
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theAudience said: In terms of a multi-faceted performer, Sammy Davis Jr. is hard to beat.
Name someone else who... Acts well (stage & screen) Sings well Dances well Does impressions & comedy Multi-instrumentalist ...has all those bases covered. tA Tribal Disorder http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 No question. U are correct. | |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's never heard of Chris Brown.
And what about Jimi Hendrix? He's responsible several of the most iconic live images of all time. My Legacy
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I feel so let down by prince.org. All these responses and no debate about who actually qualifies as a black performer? Wait...maybe I'm impressed! | |
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i stopped taking BET seriously years ago when they put that ghetto cartoon chick on to host a video show. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: i stopped taking BET seriously years ago when they put that ghetto cartoon chick on to host a video show.
is this poll gonna be announced today at the awards or is this just for fun? "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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missfee said: i stopped taking BET seriously years ago when they put that ghetto cartoon chick on to host a video show.
What you didn't like Cita. Thats the only reason I used to watch BET sometimes, her and Hits. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: missfee said: i stopped taking BET seriously years ago when they put that ghetto cartoon chick on to host a video show.
What you didn't like Cita. Thats the only reason I used to watch BET sometimes, her and Hits. "Say what? I don't know what you talkin' 'bout, okay? I'm a chitty mess!" | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: http://www.bet.com/Music/...usicMonth/
BET has a poll running for who is the greatest black performer ever. Prince Mary J. Blige Chris Brown Janet Jackson Michael Jackson James Brown Usher Ciara Beyonce R. Kelly Who did you vote for? what in the world kind of list is that? Half of these people don't (ie.can'T) even sing live. | |
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This poll is flawed, regardless of the people they put in it.
There should be some criteria established (such as years in business, tours done/TV appearances) to give this some credibility. "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: This poll is flawed, regardless of the people they put in it.
There should be some criteria established (such as years in business, tours done/TV appearances) to give this some credibility. BET + credibility = tA Tribal Disorder http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: This poll is flawed, regardless of the people they put in it.
There should be some criteria established (such as years in business, tours done/TV appearances) to give this some credibility. BET + credibility = tA Absolutely. That answer to your equation is obsolete/non-existent. | |
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i rather watch betj then bet they have a bunch of cornballs hosting the show's | |
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I think this poll would have us take into consideration not only an artist's singing or instrumental prowess (which would slough off half the list right there), but their overall presence, sense of theatre and ability to truly own a crowd.
My brother above mentioned Miles, and while I'm sold on the fact that man was a GENIUS on that horn, wasn't it true he often performed with his back to the audience or let his accompanying musicians lead with their solos, etc? I'm truly ignorant, so educate me. On the other hand, we have these new-school pretty girls and boys who can dance and give good face, but couldn't carry a note in a bucket and would downright RUN from an instrument! I have to agree that Sammy should be up top as a universal master, and I'd maybe put MJ second. Prince was ferocious in his heyday, but I recall seeing girls screaming, fainting and suffering nosebleeds at MJ concerts! I don't know what it is about him, but brother has some sort of otherwordly gift of charisma. I'd maybe tie Prince with James Brown in third. And I'd definitely put Patti LaBelle in with them. As an aside, my parents always told me Little Richard, believe it or not, was NOTHING to play with live. The Jimi footage I've seen has also been impressive, but I wonder if an entire concert of him would be breathtaking only if I had dropped some acid. [Edited 6/26/07 13:01pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: I think this poll would have us take into consideration not only an artist's singing or instrumental prowess (which would slough off half the list right there), but their overall presence, sense of theatre and ability to truly own a crowd.
My brother above mentioned Miles, and while I'm sold on the fact that man was a GENIUS on that horn, wasn't it true he often performed with his back to the audience or let his accompanying musicians lead with their solos, etc? I'm truly ignorant, so educate me. On the other hand, we have these new-school pretty girls and boys who can dance and give good face, but couldn't carry a note in a bucket and would downright RUN from an instrument! I have to agree that Sammy should be up top as a universal master, and I'd maybe put MJ second. Prince was ferocious in his heyday, but I recall seeing girls screaming, fainting and suffering nosebleeds at MJ concerts! I don't know what it is about him, but brother has some sort of otherwordly gift of charisma. I'd maybe tie Prince with James Brown in third. And I'd definitely put Patti LaBelle in with them. As an aside, my parents always told me Little Richard, believe it or not, was NOTHING to play with live. The Jimi footage I've seen has also been impressive, but I wonder if an entire concert of him would be breathtaking only if I had dropped some acid. I remeber on Def Jam or Comicview someyears ago some performer siad MJcan make the hardest toughest thug cry like a bitch. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Lammastide said: I think this poll would have us take into consideration not only an artist's singing or instrumental prowess (which would slough off half the list right there), but their overall presence, sense of theatre and ability to truly own a crowd.
My brother above mentioned Miles, and while I'm sold on the fact that man was a GENIUS on that horn, wasn't it true he often performed with his back to the audience or let his accompanying musicians lead with their solos, etc? I'm truly ignorant, so educate me. On the other hand, we have these new-school pretty girls and boys who can dance and give good face, but couldn't carry a note in a bucket and would downright RUN from an instrument! I have to agree that Sammy should be up top as a universal master, and I'd maybe put MJ second. Prince was ferocious in his heyday, but I recall seeing girls screaming, fainting and suffering nosebleeds at MJ concerts! I don't know what it is about him, but brother has some sort of otherwordly gift of charisma. I'd maybe tie Prince with James Brown in third. And I'd definitely put Patti LaBelle in with them. As an aside, my parents always told me Little Richard, believe it or not, was NOTHING to play with live. The Jimi footage I've seen has also been impressive, but I wonder if an entire concert of him would be breathtaking only if I had dropped some acid. I remeber on Def Jam or Comicview someyears ago some performer siad MJcan make the hardest toughest thug cry like a bitch. Ice-T said that. | |
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I believe if most of the kids of today saw the Housequake performance from the Sign of the Times film, many of them would see Prince in a new light in terms of performing. That was a classic performance. I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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