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Thread started 06/24/07 4:48pm

Pen0r

Prince's Influences.

This could be in two different forums, but I really like it here.

This is not about samples, but influences or blatant rip-offs.

I am just playing The Empyre's Striking Back (GREAT electro rap track that is too advanced for it's years,blending rap and electro and guitar) that features a beat that could be pre-vintage Prince 1987; the beat resembles Housequake, including the handclaps in the break at 3:45.

It's quite funny to hear where Prince might have or has nicked stuff.

Like playing Aretha Franklin's Rock Steady and Prince's Daddy Pop back to back and hear what you end up with.
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Reply #1 posted 06/24/07 5:01pm

thebanishedone

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grand funk railroad

chicago- (prince knew to play guitar solo from that song note by note and he was one of the rare mineapolis guitar players who could do that)

jimi hendrix and the band of gypises

santana

meeters

rolling stones

earth wind and fire

led zeppelin

miles davies

return to forever
james brown

joni mitchel

80s pop metal
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Reply #2 posted 06/24/07 5:02pm

thebanishedone

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name of chicago song was sunday in the park
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Reply #3 posted 06/24/07 5:15pm

Pen0r

thebanishedone said:

name of chicago song was sunday in the park


Now that is the level of detail I am looking for...

Like; the intro to eye No, the sound scapy sound that opens the song?

That is not even Prince! (Okay, so maybe that IS a sample, but just one people are not aware of) It's a part of music by Delia Derbyshire, as used in one of her projects.

http://www.delia-derbyshire.org

This site has got a few MP3's, freely downloadable that resemble that eye No intro soundscape.

I think the connection here is through Ingrid Chavez, that might have used the intro soundscape as backing for her Rain Is Wet-poem and Prince thought it was her's or something.
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Reply #4 posted 06/24/07 5:16pm

Pen0r

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Reply #5 posted 06/24/07 5:21pm

Pen0r

Pen0r said:

http://www.delia-derbyshire.org

This site has got a few MP3's, freely downloadable that resemble that eye No intro soundscape.



Here's the direct link. As the MP3 page's link to the Tutanchamun soundclip does not take you to the right soundclip...

http://music.hyperreal.org/delia/

The Delia's Theme clip is somewhat like Clouds (the eye No soundscape)
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Reply #6 posted 06/24/07 5:59pm

weepingwall

did we forget marc bolan? for that song cream!
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Reply #7 posted 06/24/07 6:03pm

LittleBLUECorv
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Delfonics
Sly Stone
Parliament/Funkadelic
Jackson 5ive
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #8 posted 06/24/07 7:45pm

icke4presidant

Andre cymone ;

uptown
do me baby
feel for you
i'm yours

W &l;

mountains
sometimes it snows in april
power fantastic
the stick
christopher tracy's parade

dez dickinson;

when doves cry
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Reply #9 posted 06/24/07 8:17pm

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As far as who Prince has been influenced by, how's this...







...for a mashup?



tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #10 posted 06/24/07 8:22pm

funkpill

And its written.... biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 06/24/07 8:23pm

Pen0r

Those are the obvious ones.

Over the years some of his influences were slightly unknown. I never saw the likes of Graham Central Station, The Delfonics or Carlos Santana mentioned in lists of inspirations until he started playing their songs.

I love the fact he paid tribute to bands like The Staple Singers and the Temptations.
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/07 8:46pm

whatsgoingon

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Delfonics
Sly Stone
Parliament/Funkadelic
Jackson 5ive


You have just offended a whole load of Prince fans. lol
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Reply #13 posted 06/24/07 9:05pm

funkpill

whatsgoingon said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Delfonics
Sly Stone
Parliament/Funkadelic
Jackson 5ive


You have just offended a whole load of Prince fans. lol



That he did lol

But he grew up on The J5 just like airbody else biggrin
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Reply #14 posted 06/24/07 9:09pm

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whatsgoingon said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Delfonics
Sly Stone
Parliament/Funkadelic
Jackson 5ive


You have just offended a whole load of Prince fans. lol

I'm a Prince fan and know the truth.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #15 posted 06/24/07 9:30pm

whatsgoingon

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

whatsgoingon said:



You have just offended a whole load of Prince fans. lol

I'm a Prince fan and know the truth.

Oh, I believe he was influence by them too, but you know there are fans out there who can't bear the thought of that, it reminds them that Michael was out there doing his thing long before anyone had ever heard of Prince.
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Reply #16 posted 06/24/07 9:41pm

funkpill

whatsgoingon said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


I'm a Prince fan and know the truth.

Oh, I believe he was influence by them too, but you know there are fans out there who can't bear the thought of that, it reminds them that Michael was out there doing his thing long before anyone had ever heard of Prince.



Exactly!!!

Mike and em' were badd back then!!!




http://www.youtube.com/wa...Iu3rXVV1_A


He couldn't help being influence by them biggrin
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Reply #17 posted 06/24/07 10:32pm

Pen0r

funkpill said:

He couldn't help being influence by them biggrin


Well, Jackson 5 AND Barbra Streisand of course.

The fact he heard them on the radio does not mean they were an influence. It also does not mean weren't. I just do not think they were an influence in the way I meant it.
The Jackson 5 sure made their mark on popular culture, but so did Diana Ross. So I suppose the Jackson 5 was as big an influence on Prince as Diana Ross and the Supremes.
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Reply #18 posted 06/24/07 10:57pm

funkpill

Pen0r said:

funkpill said:

He couldn't help being influence by them biggrin


Well, Jackson 5 AND Barbra Streisand of course.

The fact he heard them on the radio does not mean they were an influence. It also does not mean weren't. I just do not think they were an influence in the way I meant it.
The Jackson 5 sure made their mark on popular culture, but so did Diana Ross. So I suppose the Jackson 5 was as big an influence on Prince as Diana Ross and the Supremes.



You must be part of the Music & More forum lol
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Reply #19 posted 06/24/07 11:06pm

Pen0r

funkpill said:

You must be part of the Music & More forum lol


I neither admit to that or deny it.
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Reply #20 posted 06/24/07 11:26pm

funkpill

Pen0r said:

funkpill said:

You must be part of the Music & More forum lol


I neither admit to that or deny it.



That says it all lol
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Reply #21 posted 06/25/07 12:23am

Rinluv

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What about Mr.Sam Cooke
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #22 posted 06/25/07 12:34am

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Rinluv said:

What about Mr.Sam Cooke

I never seen any Sam Cooke in Prince I do see some Joe Tex in him though. lol
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #23 posted 06/25/07 12:46am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Rinluv said:

What about Mr.Sam Cooke

I never seen any Sam Cooke in Prince I do see some Joe Tex in him though. lol

Really? I hear almost the same approach in their lyrics in their ballads. Also singing style, with a smooth voice along with the ballads they wrote
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #24 posted 06/25/07 1:36pm

Kush

Patrice Rushen
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Reply #25 posted 06/25/07 2:25pm

alphastreet

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Reply #26 posted 06/25/07 2:25pm

alphastreet

games without frontiers-peter gabriel
ring my bell-anita ward
freak out-chic

anything and everything by james brown, jimi hendrix, jackie wilson, little richard, chuck berry, possibly elvis and maybe jackson 5
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Reply #27 posted 06/25/07 2:58pm

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thebanishedone said:

name of chicago song was sunday in the park


is this the same song that tamer put up on her myspace?
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Reply #28 posted 06/25/07 5:13pm

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My official list of Prince's influences:

Jimi Hendrix
George Clinton
Little Richard
Sly Stone
The Beatles
Joni Mitchell
Chuck Berry
Carlos Santana
Stevie Wonder
David Bowie
Gary Numan
Adam Ant
Cocteau Twins (Jill Jones actually told me this.)
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/07 6:59pm

Pen0r

NWF said:

Cocteau Twins (Jill Jones actually told me this.)


Kewl one! The one-off mag 10.000 also listed The Cocteau Twins' Four-Calendar Cafe. Good stuff.
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