From miss-janet.com...

"CDnow.com and Amazon.com report that Janet's Rhythm Nation album will be re-released as a CD/DVD, including the album and the Rhythm Nation Video Compilation in one package, on October 22, 2002"
There is no information on whether this will include bonus features or different packaging.

It would be cool if more albums were released like this -- album + videos. Hopefully this will become a trend that leads to better things.

She should include the Rhythm Nation short film too. Now that would make it really worthy of re-release.

If it's going to be a video compilation, I'd hope they'd include the whole short film which includes many of the videos in the storyline. This is one of the reasons why I'd like to see Prince become a big commercial success once again -- maybe then we'd see some great DVD Prince compilations. 'would be cool.

--typo edits
[This message was edited Sun Sep 22 1:37:12 PDT 2002 by Jasziah]

Who cares???

Eyem waiting untill tomorrow when Peter Gabriels new CD, the first in 10 years, comes out, called Up !!

Far more prolific!!!

Gold319 said:

I care. "Rhythm Nation" is my favorite non-Prince album.

If Peter Gabriel was so prolific, where has he been since 1993?

Anyway, aren't all of the videos from Rhythm Nation on the Design of a Decade video DVD?

Man, I hope she can do me a a favor and release another Velvet Rope-esque. Now that would be the cherry on my pie of the week, ain't nothing like Velvet Rope.

She's doing Techno dance now I Love you sistah but that will be WEAK!

I love the 'Rhythm Nation' album.Jam and Lewis' production on this CD kicks ass! There really isn't a bad song anywhere on this album...the title track,"Love Will Never Do (Without You)","Black Cat","Livin In A World (They Didn't Make)","Miss You Much","State Of The World" are all top-notch songs.

jtgillia said:

ouch!!! :LOL:

DavidEye said:

agreed...but, what does it for me...what puts this above the top..and this might sound silly but, Herb Alberts contribution on Love Will Never Do and Someday is Tonight..

something about her voice and his trumpet playing that belong together...its a shame they havent worked together since...i get all excited at the halfway point to here his horn blow..and then excited again to hear it at the end...many o times i listened to the whole thang just to hear those two parts...go figure..LOL

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[This message was edited Mon Sep 23 0:39:23 PDT 2002 by TRON]

TRON said:

wow, you really feel that way? thats interesting..


actually, there was a jimmy jam interview posted here a couple weeks ago where he commented that janet's new sound was more laid back and jazzed (ala Thats The Way Love Goes)..he did however say that the direction of an album can change at the drop of a dime, but that at this time..thats the direction.

funny maddy fans can complain about the percieved *bitting* off of maddy, yet Madonna's entire career has been bitting the musical styles and images of other artist...

veddy interesting

Moonbeam said:

Very nice

SkletonKee said:

there's a difference between biting the style of those that came before you and those in the underground and completely following in the footsteps of one of your contemporaries.

oh, and start running a spellcheck that goes for your username too
[This message was edited Sun Sep 22 22:35:59 PDT 2002 by AaronForever]

AaronForever said:

i disagree...both woman bite...thats what mainstream pop acts do.. neither one is more (or less) important...

actually, for the life of me, i cant see where or how Janet has stolen from Maddy...the argument smacks of prince vs. mj fan fighting...

and hell no im not going spellcheck my posts...that would mess up my flow...

i will point out that "veddy veddy interesting" is a reference to Laugh-In...the other errors, well...bite me!!

SkletonKee said:

incorrect. the one that sets the trend that the other follows is more important.



Like A Prayer -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.
Rhythm Nation -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.

Erotica -- highly sexual.
Janet. -- highly sexual.

Bedtime Stories/Evita -- depressing.
Velvet Rope -- depressing.

Madonna announces a compilation, mid-95.
Janet announces a compilation, mid-95.

Music -- return to an upbeat outlook
All For You -- return to an upbeat outlook




yeah, i got the veddy interesting thing. i was talking about the other 90% of your words
[This message was edited Sun Sep 22 23:47:57 PDT 2002 by AaronForever]

AaronForever said:[quote]Like A Prayer -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.
Rhythm Nation -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.

Erotica -- highly sexual.
Janet. -- highly sexual.

Bedtime Stories/Something To Remember/Evita -- depressing.
Velvet Rope -- depressing.

Music -- return to an upbeat outlook
All For You -- return to an upbeat outlook

[quote]

Recording for "Rhythm Nation" began before "Like a Prayer" was released, so I don't think it's fair to suggest that she was ripping off Madonna at that point. I only see her following Madonna's footsteps with "janet." and "Design of a Decade." "The Velvet Rope" isn't quite like anything Madonna did. "All for You" indeed is a return to an upbeat outlook (to some degree), but "Music" carries a somber mood throughout much of the record.

Moonbeam said:[quote]AaronForever said:[quote]Like A Prayer -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.
Rhythm Nation -- highly confessional and contemplative. social issues.

Erotica -- highly sexual.
Janet. -- highly sexual.

Bedtime Stories/Something To Remember/Evita -- depressing.
Velvet Rope -- depressing.

Music -- return to an upbeat outlook
All For You -- return to an upbeat outlook




Recording began for RN before LAP was released. you don't think it changed the tone of what she was doing part-way through?

Velvet Rope isn't all that different than what Madonna had done. lots of adult-contemporary r&b, which is what Bedtime Stories was. with a little bit of progressive stuff thrown in (Bedtime Story v. Empty or Sanctuary v. Anything).

Music -- 5 out of the 10 tracks carry an upbeat sound. Janet's also contains about the same ratio of happy v. sad songs. but the overall impression of the era is more care-free.

hell, the woman's (janet's) dancers were kicked out of rehearsals for Madonna's Drowned World tour because she didn't want them ripping her off.

you know i got kicked off of the miss-janet list for this very sort of thing

here's another one:

1986 -- Madonna gets serious and changes her style.
1986 -- Janet gets serious and changes her style (thank god for this one!)

AaronForever said:

"Control" was released much before "True Blue."

Moonbeam said:

you sure about that?

TRON said:

I heard that Janet is back in the studio with Jam and Lewis,so I doubt that she will be changing her sound this time around.If she was gonna do a "techno/dance"-type album,she should be working with different producers since Jam and Lewis mainly focus on R&B.

As for Janet copying Madonna,I couldn't agree more.Notice how Janet all of a sudden "got nasty" in 1993 after Madonna's 'Erotica/Sex' phase.On her 'Velvet Rope' album,Janet wrote a few bisexual-themed lyrics,which is the same thing Maddy did on 'Erotica'.

AaronForever said:[quote]Moonbeam said:[quote]

AaronForever said:

I will admit that Janet has taken a few cues from Madonna, but how do you explain songs like "The Velvet Rope" and "Go Deep" as following Madonna's trends?

1986 -- Madonna reappears with a sleek new look, loosing the chubbiness and pot belly.
1986 -- Janet gets the fat sucked out of her ass and face

AaronForever said:

Actually,in this case,both albums came out around the same time.'True Blue' was released in June 1986 and I think 'Control' came out a few months sooner.

Moonbeam said:[quote]AaronForever said:[quote]

Moonbeam said:

Go Deep = Don't Stop
Velvet Rope = Why's It So Hard

DavidEye said:

hey! you're supposed to be helping me here!

AaronForever said:[quote]Moonbeam said:[quote]

AaronForever said:

? I don't see the connection here at all.