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Reply #30 posted 06/13/07 10:39pm

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The only footage i got is a clip of the press conference. Mike is there, emmanuel lewis might be there too LOL. I cant remember. Speaking of Emmanuel, apparantly, when the brothers use to all ride together to gigs, they eventually got pissed off at Mike for bringing Emanuel in the limo all the time So eventually, they all got separate limo's, lol

Can u imagine it.

Mike: hey guys
Jacksons: hey mike, get in the limo man, come on, we got a gig to do.....
Mike: Hey jermaine, i brought a friend with me?
Jermaine: ooo, i hope its brooke shields
Mike: dont be a silly billy Jermaine, its emmanuel
Jermaine: Mike, ur trippin' right? That little midget from different strokes
Mike: No, of course not
Emmanuel: Oh hey guys!
Jacksons: Oh maaaaan

falloff I read about that. Emmanuel was only at the LA shows though. Reason was Michael irritated at everybody and didn't wanna be around them. They were riding together in a plane and Mike had his own private jet lol
Speaking of Jermaine, apparently he was doin' his cheating thing on this tour as usual(The girl who was seeing was his second baby momma). Jackie couldn't do the tour because his then wife Edid hit him with her car after she found out he had been dating Paula Abdul(she whooped Paula's ass too lol ) and got her pregnant
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Damn, u know ur stuff. I did know about Jackie not being on tour, and about paula (how else did she get the gig for the "torture" video LOL)

He was also casually flippant about doing Live aid if i remember? Officially it was because of "captain eo" was starting (yeah right), but Mike was just not interested, which was surprising.
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Reply #31 posted 06/13/07 10:49pm

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I read my share of MJ books lol

The Live Aid, he had started recording Bad, doing Captain EO, but I've heard that he was interested in doing the show. All I know is, The Mick Jagger/Tina Turner duet of "State of Shock" wasn't a highlight for me lol

I've also heard that was when he started the surgery for the scalp burn and hid out because of "the change"
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Reply #32 posted 06/13/07 10:56pm

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I read my share of MJ books lol

The Live Aid, he had started recording Bad, doing Captain EO, but I've heard that he was interested in doing the show. All I know is, The Mick Jagger/Tina Turner duet of "State of Shock" wasn't a highlight for me lol



Are you kidding? That Mick Jagger/tina turner bit rocked. Better then the original (never liked the studio version much)

Yeah, there is a nasty but fascinating book simply called "unauthorized". Of course, if any bio ever says "unauthorized", then u know its gonna be nasty to try and make it interesting. The jordy chandler chapters drag bigtime though. Particually what Michael apparantly did to him. Book was released around that time though.

I gotta admit, whilst i dont think mike is a pedo, i did find it cruel how he would befriend a few young boys and then disown them as they got a little older. That could be very well true. Having said that, thats Mike.

All i tell people about Gavin is why would a pedo, put his "victim" on a internationally broadcast documentary, holding hands no less. Mike ain't that dumb surely? Naive yes, but that stupid?
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Reply #33 posted 06/13/07 11:22pm

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WOW has this thread got of topic....
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Reply #34 posted 06/14/07 12:02am

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thesexofit said:

bboy87 said:

I read my share of MJ books lol

The Live Aid, he had started recording Bad, doing Captain EO, but I've heard that he was interested in doing the show. All I know is, The Mick Jagger/Tina Turner duet of "State of Shock" wasn't a highlight for me lol



Are you kidding? That Mick Jagger/tina turner bit rocked. Better then the original (never liked the studio version much)

Yeah, there is a nasty but fascinating book simply called "unauthorized". Of course, if any bio ever says "unauthorized", then u know its gonna be nasty to try and make it interesting. The jordy chandler chapters drag bigtime though. Particually what Michael apparantly did to him. Book was released around that time though.

I gotta admit, whilst i dont think mike is a pedo, i did find it cruel how he would befriend a few young boys and then disown them as they got a little older. That could be very well true. Having said that, thats Mike.

All i tell people about Gavin is why would a pedo, put his "victim" on a internationally broadcast documentary, holding hands no less. Mike ain't that dumb surely? Naive yes, but that stupid?


The demo of State of Shock with Freddie Mercury is better than both lol
I remember that "Unauthorized" book. I wanted a refund and I got that shit as a gift! lol
Gavin's case didn't make a bit of sense, especially the scenario, but we'll have to have a orgnote convo because we've gotten WAY off topic falloff
Anyway, check out the new book by Aphrodite Jones, it's pretty damn interesting wink
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Reply #35 posted 06/14/07 12:49am

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bboy87 said:

I read my share of MJ books lol

The Live Aid, he had started recording Bad, doing Captain EO, but I've heard that he was interested in doing the show. All I know is, The Mick Jagger/Tina Turner duet of "State of Shock" wasn't a highlight for me lol

I've also heard that was when he started the surgery for the scalp burn and hid out because of "the change"

He was also injured on the set of Captain EO which was pretty much the same week as Live Aid. Fractured wrist or something like that during some scene with whips.
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Reply #36 posted 06/14/07 1:00am

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I gotta admit, whilst i dont think mike is a pedo, i did find it cruel how he would befriend a few young boys and then disown them as they got a little older.

Oh that's SO not true. You always hear Emmanuel Lewis talking about how they're still friends. Corey Feldman was still close with him up until 2001. Then there was Wade Robson, the Culkins and Brett Barnes and all their families who turned up at the trial - they even stayed at Neverland when they were there and testified that they still made regular visits there a few times a year.
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Reply #37 posted 06/14/07 1:16am

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we should REALLY get back on topic lol
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Reply #38 posted 06/14/07 3:07am

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OK, on topic: even though he was ill and totally out of shape in 2001-2002, I don't think he is physically able to do what he used to, and unfortunately I have the feeling that he might think that this is what he has to do to please people.

I know Fred Astaire and Sammy Davis were dancing perfectly well and sometimes even better than before when they were in their 50s, and Prince is in fantastic shape - but I feel that Michael has issues with physical strain. I don't know what it is, but he just looks weak sad I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but the years clock by and nothing ever seems to come to fruition. Maybe he's lost his confidence after the trial - if so, he needs to get it back, stand up and take control for the first time in a decade.
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Reply #39 posted 06/14/07 4:44am

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He should re-train his voice. Over the last 15 years he has become more of a dancer than singer. He has to redress that balance and become a singer first and foremost again and a dancer second, that way he can continue performing into old age.
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Reply #40 posted 06/14/07 6:28am

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whatsgoingon said:

He should re-train his voice. Over the last 15 years he has become more of a dancer than singer. He has to redress that balance and become a singer first and foremost again and a dancer second, that way he can continue performing into old age.



Yes, I agree. I went 2 a BB King concert last year & he was Brilliant...he was 79!! He still does 260 shows a year. The thing about people who play instruments is that they can do it even at an old age just as great as they always have.

What I worry about with MJ is WTF is he gonna do when he just can't do all of his signature dance moves anymore without looking like a silly old man? Will people still wanna see him if he just walks around the stage while he has a bunch of young dancers behind him doing the Moonwalk instead of him?? Imagine Billie Jean WITHOUT the Moonwalk. eek

It kinda makes me sad because I grew up loving how graceful he moved on stage. Now it just looks painful. I saw Prince last year in DC & I came away even MORE impressed because of how Dynamic he was & he is almost 50. It gives me hope as a Musician that I can do it at an old age. Maybe as an Artist being a Dancer just ain't the thing that U want as Ur signature. Because oneday U will get old & look just silly trying.
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Reply #41 posted 06/14/07 6:37am

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Honestly, I wasn't that impressed the last time I saw Michael which was the MSG concerts. I was excited to see him and to be there and had fun but I didn't feel he was spectacular or anything. I think I most enjoyed when he was with his brothers. When he did YRMW with the girls behind him it was almost bathroom break worthy. Almost. The energy was low IMO.

I also can't block out that MTV appearance with NSYNC and that slow motion spin. If you were a dancer and you don't or can't dance anymore you really have to be a dynamic performer with a huge stage presence or have an amazing voice. A few have both. MJ has a voice but I don't know how amazing it is anymore live.
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Reply #42 posted 06/14/07 6:41am

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Honestly, I wasn't that impressed the last time I saw Michael which was the MSG concerts. I was excited to see him and to be there and had fun but I didn't feel he was spectacular or anything. I think I most enjoyed when he was with his brothers. When he did YRMW with the girls behind him it was almost bathroom break worthy. Almost. The energy was low IMO.

I also can't block out that MTV appearance with NSYNC and that slow motion spin. If you were a dancer and you don't or can't dance anymore you really have to be a dynamic performer with a huge stage presence or have an amazing voice. A few have both. MJ has a voice but I don't know how amazing it is anymore live.



I was there too..both nights...
It was sad ! confused
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Reply #43 posted 06/14/07 6:42am

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JackieBlue said:

Honestly, I wasn't that impressed the last time I saw Michael which was the MSG concerts. I was excited to see him and to be there and had fun but I didn't feel he was spectacular or anything. I think I most enjoyed when he was with his brothers. When he did YRMW with the girls behind him it was almost bathroom break worthy. Almost. The energy was low IMO.

I also can't block out that MTV appearance with NSYNC and that slow motion spin. If you were a dancer and you don't or can't dance anymore you really have to be a dynamic performer with a huge stage presence or have an amazing voice. A few have both. MJ has a voice but I don't know how amazing it is anymore live.


Looks like dark days ahead 4 the Thriller man. sad
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Reply #44 posted 06/14/07 6:46am

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I've said this before and DarlingDiana chewed me out lol but I'll say it again:

Forget the dancing,forget the flashy shows,forget the big group of dancers and the slick choreography...

MJ should do an MTV Unplugged which should pave the way for a scaled-down acoustic tour.PUT THE FOCUS BACK ON HIS VOICE! Remind people of why they became fans in the first place.He could get up there,smiling and telling jokes between songs,make the audience laugh,and act like a human being for once! He could also use this show to officially declare that he's retiring that silly "King Of Pop" title.He has numerous songs that would sound great in a stripped-down setting:

Human Nature
I Can't Help It
She's Out Of My Life
Liberian Girl
Man In The Mirror
Butterflies
Whatever Happens
Heaven Can Wait
Will You Be There
Jackson Five Medley: Who's Lovin You/Maybe Tommorrow/I'll Be There/Destiny
Billie Jean
Rock With You
Stranger In Moscow
It's The Falling In Love
The Lady In My Life



He could even do a new song or two....maybe a great new song that he can dedicate to the memory of his pal James Brown hmmm In between songs,he could poke fun at his own image,tell some funny tales,and present himself as a NEW,focused,down-to-Earth individual.
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Reply #45 posted 06/14/07 6:48am

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JackieBlue said:

Honestly, I wasn't that impressed the last time I saw Michael which was the MSG concerts. I was excited to see him and to be there and had fun but I didn't feel he was spectacular or anything. I think I most enjoyed when he was with his brothers. When he did YRMW with the girls behind him it was almost bathroom break worthy. Almost. The energy was low IMO.

I also can't block out that MTV appearance with NSYNC and that slow motion spin. If you were a dancer and you don't or can't dance anymore you really have to be a dynamic performer with a huge stage presence or have an amazing voice. A few have both. MJ has a voice but I don't know how amazing it is anymore live.



I was there too..both nights...
It was sad ! confused


nod I didn't want to see it...I was there both too. One night was slightly better than the last but... sigh
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Reply #46 posted 06/14/07 6:50am

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SoulAlive said:

I've said this before and DarlingDiana chewed me out lol but I'll say it again:

Forget the dancing,forget the flashy shows,forget the big group of dancers and the slick choreography...

MJ should do an MTV Unplugged which should pave the way for a scaled-down acoustic tour.PUT THE FOCUS BACK ON HIS VOICE! Remind people of why they became fans in the first place.He could get up there,smiling and telling jokes between songs,make the audience laugh,and act like a human being for once! He could also use this show to officially declare that he's retiring that silly "King Of Pop" title.He has numerous songs that would sound great in a stripped-down setting:

Human Nature
I Can't Help It
She's Out Of My Life
Liberian Girl
Man In The Mirror
Butterflies
Whatever Happens
Heaven Can Wait
Will You Be There
Jackson Five Medley: Who's Lovin You/Maybe Tommorrow/I'll Be There/Destiny
Billie Jean
Rock With You
Stranger In Moscow
It's The Falling In Love
The Lady In My Life



He could even do a new song or two....maybe a great new song that he can dedicate to the memory of his pal James Brown hmmm In between songs,he could poke fun at his own image,tell some funny tales,and present himself as a NEW,focused,down-to-Earth individual.


SoulAlive, you know this has been my dream for MJ for the last 10 years or so but I sorta gave up. It almost makes too much sense for him to do. He could even play one of those many instruments he apparently plays as a nice bonus. Total focus on the music almost seems impossible.
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Reply #47 posted 06/14/07 6:51am

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Honestly, I wasn't that impressed the last time I saw Michael which was the MSG concerts. I was excited to see him and to be there and had fun but I didn't feel he was spectacular or anything. I think I most enjoyed when he was with his brothers. When he did YRMW with the girls behind him it was almost bathroom break worthy. Almost. The energy was low IMO.

I also can't block out that MTV appearance with NSYNC and that slow motion spin. If you were a dancer and you don't or can't dance anymore you really have to be a dynamic performer with a huge stage presence or have an amazing voice. A few have both. MJ has a voice but I don't know how amazing it is anymore live.


He did have an amazing voice, but has he still got it live.? Looking at Youtube I am in awe at the performances he did when he was younger, because he could do both equally as good. When the music called for it he would sit down on a stool and showcase his wonderful soulful voice age 14 and then get up and do a mean Robot for Dancing machine.

As time as gone on he relied less on his voice and more on his dance skills and special effects thus the lip synching at his solo tours. Even with his dancing you will notice that over the years it has become more technical, very similiar to Bob Fosse, he is definetly not the funky dancer he once was and with age he would probably become even less of a dancer. For him to continue performing, considering he does not play instruments on stage, he needs to re-horn his voice and allow the voice to be the showcase rather than the dance.
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Reply #48 posted 06/14/07 6:59am

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SoulAlive said:

I've said this before and DarlingDiana chewed me out lol but I'll say it again:

Forget the dancing,forget the flashy shows,forget the big group of dancers and the slick choreography...

MJ should do an MTV Unplugged which should pave the way for a scaled-down acoustic tour.PUT THE FOCUS BACK ON HIS VOICE! Remind people of why they became fans in the first place.He could get up there,smiling and telling jokes between songs,make the audience laugh,and act like a human being for once! He could also use this show to officially declare that he's retiring that silly "King Of Pop" title.He has numerous songs that would sound great in a stripped-down setting:

Human Nature
I Can't Help It
She's Out Of My Life
Liberian Girl
Man In The Mirror
Butterflies
Whatever Happens
Heaven Can Wait
Will You Be There
Jackson Five Medley: Who's Lovin You/Maybe Tommorrow/I'll Be There/Destiny
Billie Jean
Rock With You
Stranger In Moscow
It's The Falling In Love
The Lady In My Life



He could even do a new song or two....maybe a great new song that he can dedicate to the memory of his pal James Brown hmmm In between songs,he could poke fun at his own image,tell some funny tales,and present himself as a NEW,focused,down-to-Earth individual.



Thats a Great Idea! I would Love 2 see something like that. As long as he does his "Sha mon!" I will be happy with it.. lol
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Reply #49 posted 06/14/07 7:03am

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Bishop31 said:

SoulAlive said:

I've said this before and DarlingDiana chewed me out lol but I'll say it again:

Forget the dancing,forget the flashy shows,forget the big group of dancers and the slick choreography...

MJ should do an MTV Unplugged which should pave the way for a scaled-down acoustic tour.PUT THE FOCUS BACK ON HIS VOICE! Remind people of why they became fans in the first place.He could get up there,smiling and telling jokes between songs,make the audience laugh,and act like a human being for once! He could also use this show to officially declare that he's retiring that silly "King Of Pop" title.He has numerous songs that would sound great in a stripped-down setting:

Human Nature
I Can't Help It
She's Out Of My Life
Liberian Girl
Man In The Mirror
Butterflies
Whatever Happens
Heaven Can Wait
Will You Be There
Jackson Five Medley: Who's Lovin You/Maybe Tommorrow/I'll Be There/Destiny
Billie Jean
Rock With You
Stranger In Moscow
It's The Falling In Love
The Lady In My Life



He could even do a new song or two....maybe a great new song that he can dedicate to the memory of his pal James Brown hmmm In between songs,he could poke fun at his own image,tell some funny tales,and present himself as a NEW,focused,down-to-Earth individual.



Thats a Great Idea! I would Love 2 see something like that. As long as he does his "Sha mon!" I will be happy with it.. lol


I am sorry I think the "Sha mon" "Hes, Hes", moonwalk and grab crotching is what have turnt Michael into a parody. You rarely see people trying to parody the Jackson 5 or Michael during the Off The Wall years, he didn't look ridiculous or tacky enough to make fun off.
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Reply #50 posted 06/14/07 7:04am

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JackieBlue said:

SoulAlive said:

I've said this before and DarlingDiana chewed me out lol but I'll say it again:

Forget the dancing,forget the flashy shows,forget the big group of dancers and the slick choreography...

MJ should do an MTV Unplugged which should pave the way for a scaled-down acoustic tour.PUT THE FOCUS BACK ON HIS VOICE! Remind people of why they became fans in the first place.He could get up there,smiling and telling jokes between songs,make the audience laugh,and act like a human being for once! He could also use this show to officially declare that he's retiring that silly "King Of Pop" title.He has numerous songs that would sound great in a stripped-down setting:

Human Nature
I Can't Help It
She's Out Of My Life
Liberian Girl
Man In The Mirror
Butterflies
Whatever Happens
Heaven Can Wait
Will You Be There
Jackson Five Medley: Who's Lovin You/Maybe Tommorrow/I'll Be There/Destiny
Billie Jean
Rock With You
Stranger In Moscow
It's The Falling In Love
The Lady In My Life



He could even do a new song or two....maybe a great new song that he can dedicate to the memory of his pal James Brown hmmm In between songs,he could poke fun at his own image,tell some funny tales,and present himself as a NEW,focused,down-to-Earth individual.


SoulAlive, you know this has been my dream for MJ for the last 10 years or so but I sorta gave up. It almost makes too much sense for him to do. He could even play one of those many instruments he apparently plays as a nice bonus. Total focus on the music almost seems impossible.




It's a shame he won't do this.I think this is one of the few ways that he can make a genuine comeback.Everybody loves his old songs.There would be ALOT of interest in a tour like this.Plus,he could use this performance to show a NEW,improved version of himself....someone who can have actually fun with his songs and is not afraid to try some new arrangements for once.An album like this would be much more enjoyable than yet another glossy,over-produced,over-hyped album with hip-hop producers and collaborations.
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Reply #51 posted 06/14/07 7:19am

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SoulAlive said:

JackieBlue said:



SoulAlive, you know this has been my dream for MJ for the last 10 years or so but I sorta gave up. It almost makes too much sense for him to do. He could even play one of those many instruments he apparently plays as a nice bonus. Total focus on the music almost seems impossible.




It's a shame he won't do this.I think this is one of the few ways that he can make a genuine comeback.Everybody loves his old songs.There would be ALOT of interest in a tour like this.Plus,he could use this performance to show a NEW,improved version of himself....someone who can have actually fun with his songs and is not afraid to try some new arrangements for once.An album like this would be much more enjoyable than yet another glossy,over-produced,over-hyped album with hip-hop producers and collaborations.


I think when performers do this type of gig and do it well, they really need to connect with the audience and that's something Michael doesn't do well to me. Maybe that's why he won't do it.shrug But it helps to really see and identify with your audience not just go through rehearsed motions and responses. At MJ shows I've often felt like there was plexiglass between us and the stage. Even the call and response portions feel so automatic. Maybe it's because there are just too many damn people but I've been to other big shows and felt differently. But this is just my twocents I could be way off base.
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I think when performers do this type of gig and do it well, they really need to connect with the audience and that's something Michael doesn't do well to me. Maybe that's why he won't do it.shrug But it helps to really see and identify with your audience not just go through rehearsed motions and responses. At MJ shows I've often felt like there was plexiglass between us and the stage. Even the call and response portions feel so automatic. Maybe it's because there are just too many damn people but I've been to other big shows and felt differently. But this is just my twocents I could be way off base.


Its funny U say that because I was talking 2 someone about that very same thing. I was saying that MJ is really terrible at crowd interaction. Its always the same ol' "I Love You!".."Beat It!"..then the crowd says "Beat It". neutral

I have been 2 Prince shows where he will literally point & speak directly 2 a Person in the Audience. MJ shows just always seem 2 be like he is on Auto Pilot. Kick here...Spin here...Oww!...Moonwalk...

I honestly believe he was a better Vocalist when he was in his teen years. He needs 2 bring that voice back! Quit with all of these so predictable Dance routines.
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Reply #53 posted 06/14/07 7:51am

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I was saying that MJ is really terrible at crowd interaction


I guess that's mostly the fault of people at the front rows lol
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Reply #54 posted 06/14/07 7:55am

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I was saying that MJ is really terrible at crowd interaction


I guess that's mostly the fault of people at the front rows lol


Yea...they were 2 busy fainting after seeing him do the Moonwalk 4 the Billionth time. lol

Will people still be fainting when he is hobbling back & forth on the stage with the same Jacket singing 'Beat It'?? razz
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Reply #55 posted 06/14/07 8:02am

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I guess that's mostly the fault of people at the front rows lol


Yea...they were 2 busy fainting after seeing him do the Moonwalk 4 the Billionth time. lol

Will people still be fainting when he is hobbling back & forth on the stage with the same Jacket singing 'Beat It'?? razz


you just summed it up there lol. In his defense, everywhere he goes he is treated like a super heroe so he acts like one.
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Reply #56 posted 06/14/07 8:18am

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The New Michael Jackson??

Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer

i don´t know what was wrong with him that night. He looked tired and as if he was sick. I think if he exercised, he could get back in shape.

Michael was OFF! That whole era(2001-early 2002), he was...how can I say....fuck it, I don't know, he was just off. That part in "Living With Michael Jackson" was way better.
These days, if Michael didn't dance as much or if Prince wasn't doing the splits or whatever, I don't care! I'm 19 years old and haven't even seen them live I need a hug

hug You summed it up nicely. lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #57 posted 06/14/07 8:40am

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dag said:

The New Michael Jackson??

Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer

i don´t know what was wrong with him that night. He looked tired and as if he was sick. I think if he exercised, he could get back in shape.


Do U think he just doesn't work out or rehearse anymore?? His voice hasn't even(in my opinion) sounded great Live since the Bad Tour. He seems 2 use Lip Synching as his crutch now on stage. Sure we Love 2 see him dance...but not at the cost of having 2 hear Pre Recorded Vocals. It makes me wonder if he even has confidence in his voice anymore. Or perhaps in His mind he is a DANCER rather than a Singer.
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Reply #58 posted 06/14/07 8:45am

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MJ shows just always seem 2 be like he is on Auto Pilot. Kick here...Spin here...Oww!...Moonwalk...

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EmbattledWarrior said:

No offense to any vegans out there. But Mike needs to eat some MEAT.Because of MJ's lack of meat consumption he suffers from Vitamin B-12 deficiency.
Doctors have connected that this type of deficiency may cause or help spread cases of vitiligo. B12 is mostly found in animal tissue.
All his doctors prescribed him to eat MEAT, but he refuses.
Mj can still build his body into shape but now that he's older he needs certain things.
If the late james brown was still slippin and sliding into his 70's and mick jagger can still run up and down a stage night after night for a tour; MJ can def get his steps back... He just needs to workout and start eating healthy and take the right vitamins.


But Michael is no longer a vegetarian and hasn't been one for years now. He does eat meat. The only thing I think is that he just looks a little too thin and frail. He needs to gain some weight. Also ever since Michael fell from that crane during a performance from the "History Tour" he has had bad back problems. I don't know what his situation is like these days, but a bad back is nothing to play with and I don't know if he'll still be able to dance that well anymore because of it but we'll see.

I agree with Embattled Warrior. He needs to EAT!
Just look how thin he is. He really lost a lot of weigh during the trial and he hasn´t manage to put it back on yet. I´d post pictures if my damn computer would cooperate.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #59 posted 06/14/07 8:46am

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I think when performers do this type of gig and do it well, they really need to connect with the audience and that's something Michael doesn't do well to me. Maybe that's why he won't do it.shrug But it helps to really see and identify with your audience not just go through rehearsed motions and responses. At MJ shows I've often felt like there was plexiglass between us and the stage. Even the call and response portions feel so automatic. Maybe it's because there are just too many damn people but I've been to other big shows and felt differently. But this is just my twocents I could be way off base.


Its funny U say that because I was talking 2 someone about that very same thing. I was saying that MJ is really terrible at crowd interaction. Its always the same ol' "I Love You!".."Beat It!"..then the crowd says "Beat It". neutral

I have been 2 Prince shows where he will literally point & speak directly 2 a Person in the Audience. MJ shows just always seem 2 be like he is on Auto Pilot. Kick here...Spin here...Oww!...Moonwalk...

I honestly believe he was a better Vocalist when he was in his teen years. He needs 2 bring that voice back! Quit with all of these so predictable Dance routines.
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The thing is when Michael was with the Jacksons he actually intereacted much better with the audience; has anyone watched the J5 in Mexico in 75 or The Jacksons at Wembley 78? he actually talks to the audience quite a bit, in the J5 in Mexico he even explains why he loves ballads. You felt an energy between the brothers and the audience. With Michael solo he seems even more reserve than usual.
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