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The New Michael Jackson?? Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer.
But with him his thing was his DANCING. More so than Prince who's Guitar playing was more the dominate part of his Act. Now realistically with age comes physical limitations...Prince doesn't do the splits anymore. But U can ALWAYS expect 2 hear him make that Guitar scream just as good if not Better than the old days. Now that MJ can't do the things he used 2 do on stage what do U think an MJ show will be like now?? I'm not sure how I would like just seeing him walk around the stage looking stiff. Sorry..I just would be really sad watching it. What do U think the Future holds 4 MJ the Performer? Since he has always relied heavlily on his Dancing. | |
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Bishop31 said: Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer.
But with him his thing was his DANCING. More so than Prince who's Guitar playing was more the dominate part of his Act. Now realistically with age comes physical limitations...Prince doesn't do the splits anymore. But U can ALWAYS expect 2 hear him make that Guitar scream just as good if not Better than the old days. Now that MJ can't do the things he used 2 do on stage what do U think an MJ show will be like now?? I'm not sure how I would like just seeing him walk around the stage looking stiff. Sorry..I just would be really sad watching it. What do U think the Future holds 4 MJ the Performer? Since he has always relied heavlily on his Dancing. 
Michael was OFF!  That whole era(2001-early 2002), he was...how can I say....fuck it, I don't know, he was just off. That part in "Living With Michael Jackson" was way better.
These days, if Michael didn't dance as much or if Prince wasn't doing the splits or whatever, I don't care! I'm 19 years old and haven't even seen them live  I need a hug"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Bishop31 said: Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer.
But with him his thing was his DANCING. More so than Prince who's Guitar playing was more the dominate part of his Act. Now realistically with age comes physical limitations...Prince doesn't do the splits anymore. But U can ALWAYS expect 2 hear him make that Guitar scream just as good if not Better than the old days. Now that MJ can't do the things he used 2 do on stage what do U think an MJ show will be like now?? I'm not sure how I would like just seeing him walk around the stage looking stiff. Sorry..I just would be really sad watching it. What do U think the Future holds 4 MJ the Performer? Since he has always relied heavlily on his Dancing. if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Bishop31 said: Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer.
But with him his thing was his DANCING. More so than Prince who's Guitar playing was more the dominate part of his Act. Now realistically with age comes physical limitations...Prince doesn't do the splits anymore. But U can ALWAYS expect 2 hear him make that Guitar scream just as good if not Better than the old days. Now that MJ can't do the things he used 2 do on stage what do U think an MJ show will be like now?? I'm not sure how I would like just seeing him walk around the stage looking stiff. Sorry..I just would be really sad watching it. What do U think the Future holds 4 MJ the Performer? Since he has always relied heavlily on his Dancing. if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours. Yeah because during 2001 and 2002 he wasn't in shape The 2002 performance he did in D.C. was great from what I heard."We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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ehuffnsd said: if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours.
But Ms Esther doesnt quite dance to the point MJ does. She is more of a theatre act than a song&dance act. That's not even the point though. MJ has been saying since Bad Tour(and every following tour) that he wont tour again so I dont think that's where his heart is anymore 
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ehuffnsd said: Bishop31 said: Judging from the last time I saw MJ per4m on his Tribute show a couple of years back. I have been thinking about what an MJ show would be like nowadays. He looked very tired & kinda old while he was dancing. Don't get me wrong..I still think he's an amazing dancer.
But with him his thing was his DANCING. More so than Prince who's Guitar playing was more the dominate part of his Act. Now realistically with age comes physical limitations...Prince doesn't do the splits anymore. But U can ALWAYS expect 2 hear him make that Guitar scream just as good if not Better than the old days. Now that MJ can't do the things he used 2 do on stage what do U think an MJ show will be like now?? I'm not sure how I would like just seeing him walk around the stage looking stiff. Sorry..I just would be really sad watching it. What do U think the Future holds 4 MJ the Performer? Since he has always relied heavlily on his Dancing. if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours.  I'D pay to see him on the kiddie skin flute  | |
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lord!
I can just see this thread going down into a negative spin, so I'll say this and leave....I have every bit of faith in MJ and his performance capabilities, he has a hell of a lot more to prove than any other artist coming out and I'm sure he'll bring it. But then, for some people, his best will never be enough....but who the hell cares!!! BTW...quit with the nasty comments will you! [Edited 6/13/07 16:12pm] | |
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LightOfArt said: ehuffnsd said: if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours.
But Ms Esther doesnt quite dance to the point MJ does. She is more of a theatre act than a song&dance act. That's not even the point though. MJ has been saying since Bad Tour(and every following tour) that he wont tour again so I dont think that's where his heart is anymore
And for the record I did not mention her real name so there might be a chance that the thread isnt cursed yet. I think with the Bad tour, he wanted to prove to the world after what happened with the Victory Tour and probably said it would be his last tour to make it bigger. Because 2 years later, he was planning the Dangerous Tour The worse tour as in terms of effort was the HIStory Tour. After what happened in 1993 and 1994, he just seemed he slummed it and only did it to please the fans and record label.
As terms in planning, marketing, and promotion? The muthafuckin Victory Tour! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ehuffnsd said: if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours. Yeah because during 2001 and 2002 he wasn't in shape The 2002 performance he did in D.C. was great from what I heard.Is there any footage from this show that is available? Did he lipsynch? What did he sing? | |
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I'm kinda worried about him. Is it just me or does he seem 2 have a bad back or something?? I have noticed a kind of Hunch Back like syndrome these past few years. Look at some photos & clips....
I wonder if this comes from all those years of dancing.. 
MJ's dancing was his Indentity. I can't imagine going 2 a concert & seeing him barely make it threw a show without dancing. | |
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Bishop31 said: I'm kinda worried about him. Is it just me or does he seem 2 have a bad back or something?? I have noticed a kind of Hunch Back like syndrome these past few years. Look at some photos & clips....
I wonder if this comes from all those years of dancing..
MJ's dancing was his Indentity. I can't imagine going 2 a concert & seeing him barely make it threw a show without dancing. it's not from dancing if done right. Look at Tony Basil, Paula Abdul, Martha Graham, Alvin Aliey, Pearl Lang, Bob Fosse, Fred Astaire. MJ has bad posture and always was hunching alot while dancing. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Bishop31 said: I'm kinda worried about him. Is it just me or does he seem 2 have a bad back or something?? I have noticed a kind of Hunch Back like syndrome these past few years. Look at some photos & clips....
I wonder if this comes from all those years of dancing..
MJ's dancing was his Indentity. I can't imagine going 2 a concert & seeing him barely make it threw a show without dancing. it's not from dancing if done right. Look at Tony Basil, Paula Abdul, Martha Graham, Alvin Aliey, Pearl Lang, Bob Fosse, Fred Astaire. MJ has bad posture and always was hunching alot while dancing. Yes, Ur right. I never noticed that. That really sux 4 him as a Dancer.. | |
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waw2002 said: bboy87 said: Yeah because during 2001 and 2002 he wasn't in shape The 2002 performance he did in D.C. was great from what I heard.Is there any footage from this show that is available? Did he lipsynch? What did he sing? From what was reported, he performed Black or White with Slash, Dangerous, and Heal The World(with special appearance by Diana Ross) either it was in DC or Harlem. There's only footage of Dangerous circulating "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Bishop31 said: ehuffnsd said: it's not from dancing if done right. Look at Tony Basil, Paula Abdul, Martha Graham, Alvin Aliey, Pearl Lang, Bob Fosse, Fred Astaire. MJ has bad posture and always was hunching alot while dancing. Yes, Ur right. I never noticed that. That really sux 4 him as a Dancer.. The hunching was apparant during 1997 to 2001 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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prettymansson said: ehuffnsd said: if he is in good shape he should still be able to dance, like someone else. or he can start playing instruments on his tours. I'D pay to see him on the kiddie skin flute that is not funny at all | |
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bboy87 said: LightOfArt said: But Ms Esther doesnt quite dance to the point MJ does. She is more of a theatre act than a song&dance act. That's not even the point though. MJ has been saying since Bad Tour(and every following tour) that he wont tour again so I dont think that's where his heart is anymore
And for the record I did not mention her real name so there might be a chance that the thread isnt cursed yet. I think with the Bad tour, he wanted to prove to the world after what happened with the Victory Tour and probably said it would be his last tour to make it bigger. Because 2 years later, he was planning the Dangerous Tour The worse tour as in terms of effort was the HIStory Tour. After what happened in 1993 and 1994, he just seemed he slummed it and only did it to please the fans and record label.
As terms in planning, marketing, and promotion? The muthafuckin Victory Tour! "victory tour" looked pretty hot. Even with the ticket debarcle and the fact no new material from "victory" was rehearsed (i woulda loved "wait" and "torture" done live). Wasn't "tell me i'm not dreamin'" on the setlist? I would much prefer a jacksons tour then another lypsynch fest like the crappy "HIStory tour" | |
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InsatiableCream said: prettymansson said: I'D pay to see him on the kiddie skin flute that is not funny at all I wasn't joking. | |
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No offense to any vegans out there. But Mike needs to eat some MEAT.
Because of MJ's lack of meat consumption he suffers from Vitamin B-12 deficiency. Doctors have connected that this type of deficiency may cause or help spread cases of vitiligo. B12 is mostly found in animal tissue. All his doctors prescribed him to eat MEAT, but he refuses. Mj can still build his body into shape but now that he's older he needs certain things. If the late james brown was still slippin and sliding into his 70's and mick jagger can still run up and down a stage night after night for a tour; MJ can def get his steps back... He just needs to workout and start eating healthy and take the right vitamins. I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: No offense to any vegans out there. But Mike needs to eat some MEAT.Because of MJ's lack of meat consumption he suffers from Vitamin B-12 deficiency.
Doctors have connected that this type of deficiency may cause or help spread cases of vitiligo. B12 is mostly found in animal tissue. All his doctors prescribed him to eat MEAT, but he refuses. Mj can still build his body into shape but now that he's older he needs certain things. If the late james brown was still slippin and sliding into his 70's and mick jagger can still run up and down a stage night after night for a tour; MJ can def get his steps back... He just needs to workout and start eating healthy and take the right vitamins. But Michael is no longer a vegetarian and hasn't been one for years now. He does eat meat. The only thing I think is that he just looks a little too thin and frail. He needs to gain some weight. Also ever since Michael fell from that crane during a performance from the "History Tour" he has had bad back problems. I don't know what his situation is like these days, but a bad back is nothing to play with and I don't know if he'll still be able to dance that well anymore because of it but we'll see. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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Cinnamon234 said: EmbattledWarrior said: No offense to any vegans out there. But Mike needs to eat some MEAT.Because of MJ's lack of meat consumption he suffers from Vitamin B-12 deficiency.
Doctors have connected that this type of deficiency may cause or help spread cases of vitiligo. B12 is mostly found in animal tissue. All his doctors prescribed him to eat MEAT, but he refuses. Mj can still build his body into shape but now that he's older he needs certain things. If the late james brown was still slippin and sliding into his 70's and mick jagger can still run up and down a stage night after night for a tour; MJ can def get his steps back... He just needs to workout and start eating healthy and take the right vitamins. But Michael is no longer a vegetarian and hasn't been one for years now. He does eat meat. The only thing I think is that he just looks a little too thin and frail. He needs to gain some weight. Also ever since Michael fell from that crane during a performance from the "History Tour" he has had bad back problems. I don't know what his situation is like these days, but a bad back is nothing to play with and I don't know if he'll still be able to dance that well anymore because of it but we'll see. Is he really? damn, well i've been out of the loop so, if this is true, i'll take back my rant...  I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Is he really? damn, well i've been out of the loop so, if this is true, i'll take back my rant... Yup. MJ is a big fan of KFC which has been well documented in the press so no, he aint no vegetarian ."And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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thesexofit said: bboy87 said: I think with the Bad tour, he wanted to prove to the world after what happened with the Victory Tour and probably said it would be his last tour to make it bigger. Because 2 years later, he was planning the Dangerous Tour The worse tour as in terms of effort was the HIStory Tour. After what happened in 1993 and 1994, he just seemed he slummed it and only did it to please the fans and record label.
As terms in planning, marketing, and promotion? The muthafuckin Victory Tour! "victory tour" looked pretty hot. Even with the ticket debarcle and the fact no new material from "victory" was rehearsed (i woulda loved "wait" and "torture" done live). Wasn't "tell me i'm not dreamin'" on the setlist? I would much prefer a jacksons tour then another lypsynch fest like the crappy "HIStory tour" State of Shock was gonna be performed but was cancelled when Mick Jagger couldn't make it to New York. The setlist to the Victory Tour was : Wanna Be Startin Somethin Things I Do For You Off The Wall Ben/Human Nature This Place Hotel She's Out Of My Life Let's Get Serious You Like Me Don't You Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin I Want You Back The Love You Save I'll Be There Rock With You Lovely One Workin Day And Night Beat It Billie Jean Shake Your Body Down To The Ground Mike eats meat these days. He regularly eats KFC and Taco Bell "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: thesexofit said: "victory tour" looked pretty hot. Even with the ticket debarcle and the fact no new material from "victory" was rehearsed (i woulda loved "wait" and "torture" done live). Wasn't "tell me i'm not dreamin'" on the setlist? I would much prefer a jacksons tour then another lypsynch fest like the crappy "HIStory tour" State of Shock was gonna be performed but was cancelled when Mick Jagger couldn't make it to New York. The setlist to the Victory Tour was : Wanna Be Startin Somethin Things I Do For You Off The Wall Ben/Human Nature This Place Hotel She's Out Of My Life Let's Get Serious You Like Me Don't You Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin I Want You Back The Love You Save I'll Be There Rock With You Lovely One Workin Day And Night Beat It Billie Jean Shake Your Body Down To The Ground Mike eats meat these days. He regularly eats KFC and Taco Bell Yay, so it was peformed. I prefer "torture" as a duet and song, but its cool they did that song on stage. Mike was still doing "ben" LOL. | |
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thesexofit said: bboy87 said: State of Shock was gonna be performed but was cancelled when Mick Jagger couldn't make it to New York. The setlist to the Victory Tour was : Wanna Be Startin Somethin Things I Do For You Off The Wall Ben/Human Nature This Place Hotel She's Out Of My Life Let's Get Serious You Like Me Don't You Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin I Want You Back The Love You Save I'll Be There Rock With You Lovely One Workin Day And Night Beat It Billie Jean Shake Your Body Down To The Ground Mike eats meat these days. He regularly eats KFC and Taco Bell Yay, so it was peformed. I prefer "torture" as a duet and song, but its cool they did that song on stage. Mike was still doing "ben" LOL. It was the beginning of the song then he cuts it and says"We've done that song so many times, give me somethin' new" then Human Nature starts Torture would've been cool live. The funny thing is the brothers were switching outfits. Michael wore striped pants on some shows and they looked like regular pants, then Randy wore them and they looked like spandex
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bboy87 said: thesexofit said: Yay, so it was peformed. I prefer "torture" as a duet and song, but its cool they did that song on stage. Mike was still doing "ben" LOL. It was the beginning of the song then he cuts it and says"We've done that song so many times, give me somethin' new" then Human Nature starts Torture would've been cool live. The funny thing is the brothers were switching outfits. Michael wore striped pants on some shows and they looked like regular pants, then Randy wore them and they looked like spandex
He was wrong for that I love the costumes for that tour. I use to have a closeup of the intro sunglasses pic as a background for ages in highschool (u know, all the brothers are standing, taking off their sunglasses, slowly). And everyone thought it was cool LOL
Michael hated Don King by all accounts. And would never speak to him. I read how at the time, donny osmond wanted advice on how to then get his career back on track, and mike said "call urself don". Great advice Mike. He also questioned Donny if it was true Mormons looked down on blacks or something like that? And Donny, looking embaressed said, "errr no Mike" politely. Mike is a trip sometimes. | |
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MJ will do what all aging singer/dancers do - he will have a group of dancers behind him who will be doing the real dancing while MJ does simpler moves in the front. Think Shirley MacClaine or Liza Minnelli - its a standard show biz practice. He will still be dancing - just simpler moves to accomadate him. | |
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Cinnamon234 said: EmbattledWarrior said: Is he really? damn, well i've been out of the loop so, if this is true, i'll take back my rant... Yup. MJ is a big fan of KFC which has been well documented in the press so no, he aint no vegetarian .KFC, thats news to me i know in the late 90's he was all vegetarian didnt want his kids to eat meat either... wow... Times Are Indeed A changin I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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thesexofit said: bboy87 said: It was the beginning of the song then he cuts it and says"We've done that song so many times, give me somethin' new" then Human Nature starts Torture would've been cool live. The funny thing is the brothers were switching outfits. Michael wore striped pants on some shows and they looked like regular pants, then Randy wore them and they looked like spandex
He was wrong for that I love the costumes for that tour. I use to have a closeup of the intro sunglasses pic as a background for ages in highschool (u know, all the brothers are standing, taking off their sunglasses, slowly). And everyone thought it was cool LOL
Michael hated Don King by all accounts. And would never speak to him. I read how at the time, donny osmond wanted advice on how to then get his career back on track, and mike said "call urself don". Great advice Mike. He also questioned Donny if it was true Mormons looked down on blacks or something like that? And Donny, looking embaressed said, "errr no Mike" politely. Mike is a trip sometimes.I remember that. Donny was pissed at Mike for that. Michael was pissed during the whole tour and you know he wasn't happy with the Victory album. If you remember all the news reports, Michael was never in them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: thesexofit said: I love the costumes for that tour. I use to have a closeup of the intro sunglasses pic as a background for ages in highschool (u know, all the brothers are standing, taking off their sunglasses, slowly). And everyone thought it was cool LOL
Michael hated Don King by all accounts. And would never speak to him. I read how at the time, donny osmond wanted advice on how to then get his career back on track, and mike said "call urself don". Great advice Mike. He also questioned Donny if it was true Mormons looked down on blacks or something like that? And Donny, looking embaressed said, "errr no Mike" politely. Mike is a trip sometimes.I remember that. Donny was pissed at Mike for that. Michael was pissed during the whole tour and you know he wasn't happy with the Victory album. If you remember all the news reports, Michael was never in them The only footage i got is a clip of the press conference. Mike is there, emmanuel lewis might be there too LOL. I cant remember. Speaking of Emmanuel, apparantly, when the brothers use to all ride together to gigs, they eventually got pissed off at Mike for bringing Emanuel in the limo all the time So eventually, they all got separate limo's,
Can u imagine it. Mike: hey guys Jacksons: hey mike, get in the limo man, come on, we got a gig to do..... Mike: Hey jermaine, i brought a friend with me? Jermaine: ooo, i hope its brooke shields Mike: dont be a silly billy Jermaine, its emmanuel Jermaine: Mike, ur trippin' right? That little midget from different strokes Mike: No, of course not Emmanuel: Oh hey guys! Jacksons: Oh maaaaan | |
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thesexofit said: bboy87 said: I remember that. Donny was pissed at Mike for that. Michael was pissed during the whole tour and you know he wasn't happy with the Victory album. If you remember all the news reports, Michael was never in them The only footage i got is a clip of the press conference. Mike is there, emmanuel lewis might be there too LOL. I cant remember. Speaking of Emmanuel, apparantly, when the brothers use to all ride together to gigs, they eventually got pissed off at Mike for bringing Emanuel in the limo all the time So eventually, they all got separate limo's,
Can u imagine it. Mike: hey guys Jacksons: hey mike, get in the limo man, come on, we got a gig to do..... Mike: Hey jermaine, i brought a friend with me? Jermaine: ooo, i hope its brooke shields Mike: dont be a silly billy Jermaine, its emmanuel Jermaine: Mike, ur trippin' right? That little midget from different strokes Mike: No, of course not Emmanuel: Oh hey guys! Jacksons: Oh maaaaan I read about that. Emmanuel was only at the LA shows though. Reason was Michael irritated at everybody and didn't wanna be around them. They were riding together in a plane and Mike had his own private jet
Speaking of Jermaine, apparently he was doin' his cheating thing on this tour as usual(The girl who was seeing was his second baby momma). Jackie couldn't do the tour because his then wife Edid hit him with her car after she found out he had been dating Paula Abdul(she whooped Paula's ass too ) and got her pregnant[Edited 6/13/07 22:35pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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