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Reply #120 posted 06/14/07 11:46am

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Adisa said:

krayzie said:

The only reason why people say she cant sing, is because she's black.

Tell me how many white artists who can sing like Rihanna ? (I don't even say sing better ?)

If she was white, people would say how great singer she is.

The judgement when it comes to black female singers goes to the extrem, you have to sing just like Patti Labelle or you cant sing.


What about the Fergies, the Gwnen Stefanis, the Nelly furtados etc ? They don't even come close but nobody care, they are white.


She definitely CAN sing, but needs practice to improve her skills.


But saying she cant sing is plain WRONG
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Dude, relax. Madge, Britney, Joss and the lot get roasted for their vocals as well on here.


And what happens to Rhianna is what happens to Beyonce.

Now some people want to argue that Beyonce is not that great singer, but if she was white ?

People go to the extrem, from she's an amazing singer to she can't sing at all.

Sing like Pati Labelle or you can't sing at all.
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Reply #121 posted 06/14/07 11:50am

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BlaqueKnight never lies.
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Reply #122 posted 06/14/07 11:54am

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dseann said:

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You are exactly what I was portraying, if you are a female black singer you have to sing like Pati Labelle or you CANT sing.

Rhianna is FAR better than Janet or Madonna. There's no compairison.

If she CANT sing, you have to consider that 90% of the mainstream white singers CANT sing too.


Not just Madonna, BUT 90% OF THE WHITE SINGERS CANT SING.

You have to be logical in your arguments. Being so extrem to judge black artists makes no sense.



What I'm trying to say to you is that race has absolutely nothing to do with this. Have you ever heard Rhianna live? She is no better than Janet or Madonna or Fergie or Gwen Stefani or Nelly Feturdo or Britney Spears.

I know that Christina can sing the skin off her big forehead though.

P.S. Erykah Badu can't sing like Patti LaBelle, but she can sing her ass off.
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It has to do with race.

But if you think Rhianna is no better than Madonna. Good for you. It only confims everthing I think...
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Reply #123 posted 06/14/07 12:00pm

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krayzie said:

Adisa said:


Dude, relax. Madge, Britney, Joss and the lot get roasted for their vocals as well on here.


And what happens to Rhianna is what happens to Beyonce.

Now some people want to argue that Beyonce is not that great singer, but if she was white ?

People go to the extrem, from she's an amazing singer to she can't sing at all.

Sing like Pati Labelle or you can't sing at all.


I sorta get some of what you're saying. A double standard does exist as it relates to white and black singers...but Rihanna is definitely not a good example of that.
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Reply #124 posted 06/14/07 12:09pm

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Krayzie, I'm just curious--If you think Patti is the standard for Black female vocalists then who is the standard for White female vocalists?
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Reply #125 posted 06/14/07 12:13pm

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krayzie said:

dseann said:




What I'm trying to say to you is that race has absolutely nothing to do with this. Have you ever heard Rhianna live? She is no better than Janet or Madonna or Fergie or Gwen Stefani or Nelly Feturdo or Britney Spears.

I know that Christina can sing the skin off her big forehead though.

P.S. Erykah Badu can't sing like Patti LaBelle, but she can sing her ass off.
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It has to do with race.

But if you think Rhianna is no better than Madonna. Good for you. It only confims everthing I think...



And who the fuck made you a mind reader?
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Reply #126 posted 06/14/07 12:19pm

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hey, at least you're honest! lol

i think her vocal skills are mediocre. she's better than ashanti and cassie imo though, j. lo too! people will listen to her though because she's cute but what happens when the looks fade? confused



She will be Paula Abdul. Reality shows always need another washed up Pop Star. lol



man, you are so hardcore! biggrin
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Reply #127 posted 06/14/07 12:22pm

dseann

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Bishop31 said:




She will be Paula Abdul. Reality shows always need another washed up Pop Star. lol



man, you are so hardcore! biggrin


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Reply #128 posted 06/14/07 12:53pm

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Krayzie, I'm just curious--If you think Patti is the standard for Black female vocalists then who is the standard for White female vocalists?


I've never said Patti is the standard of Black female vocalists and she's not even my fav female singer.

But seems to me that there's a double standard when it comes to black and white singers.

People judge artist by race not talent.

That's why you'll see people saying Rhianna cant sing and praising Robin Thicke...
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Reply #129 posted 06/14/07 12:54pm

dseann

krayzie said:

Adisa said:

Krayzie, I'm just curious--If you think Patti is the standard for Black female vocalists then who is the standard for White female vocalists?


I've never said Patti is the standard of Black female vocalists and she's not even my fav female singer.

But seems to me that there's a double standard when it comes to black and white singers.

People judge artist by race not talent.

That's why you'll see people saying Rhianna cant sing and praising Robin Thicke...


Who the fuck is Robin Thicke?
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Reply #130 posted 06/14/07 1:00pm

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dseann said:

krayzie said:



I've never said Patti is the standard of Black female vocalists and she's not even my fav female singer.

But seems to me that there's a double standard when it comes to black and white singers.

People judge artist by race not talent.

That's why you'll see people saying Rhianna cant sing and praising Robin Thicke...


Who the fuck is Robin Thicke?


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Reply #131 posted 06/14/07 1:02pm

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I didn't read all the posts, but I just wanted to add that her song "umbrella" sucks big time!
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Reply #132 posted 06/14/07 1:35pm

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krayzie said:


I've never said Patti is the standard of Black female vocalists

But that's what you implied...repeatedly.
But seems to me that there's a double standard when it comes to black and white singers.

I think the standards are set according to musical genres, but race is a factor in that as well.
People judge artist by race not talent.

Disagree.
That's why you'll see people saying Rhianna cant sing and praising Robin Thicke...

I've heard robin live and he sounded good. Rhianna, however...
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Reply #133 posted 06/14/07 3:54pm

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Adisa said:

krayzie said:


I've never said Patti is the standard of Black female vocalists

But that's what you implied...repeatedly.


No, I took Patti Labelle as an example.

I think the standards are set according to musical genres, but race is a factor in that as well.


It's about race not genres. If it had to do with genres, people would say she cant sing rnb music/soul music, or she's not a great rnb singer. But this thread is 'Rihanna can't sing'. Without even mentionning any genres.



I've heard robin live and he sounded good. Rhianna, however...


Oh really ?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...RFqGS7Y0Bw

Maybe because he's white.


But if he was black, you'd probably think he can't sing...
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Reply #134 posted 06/17/07 1:20pm

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Youre as right as rain. Further, Robin Thick is more of the same swagger jacking story of American music. America is so racist Alan Thick's son is a bigger star than the millions of Black men who created the style hes imitating.
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Reply #135 posted 06/17/07 2:59pm

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krayzie said:[quote]

Adisa said:



It's about race not genres. If it had to do with genres, people would say she cant sing rnb music/soul music, or she's not a great rnb singer. But this thread is 'Rihanna can't sing'. Without even mentionning any genres.



I've heard robin live and he sounded good. Rhianna, however...


Oh really ?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...RFqGS7Y0Bw



Maybe because he's white.


But if he was black, you'd probably think he can't sing...
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Krayzie,

I disagree with it not being about genre or race. Rather, I think it comes down to just plain old talent. Unlike Robin,Rihanna is more of a "factory" made singer so you are not going to hear her sing anything that is out of her comfort zone. Robin on the other hand is also a writer and he was a writer before he became a singer. So, he is more capable of singing anything that is outside of his zone. I get the impression from reading these posts, that white people are incapable of singing R&B. Well, what about people like Hall & Oats or the Average White Band. They have been singing R&B music in it's truest form, for years. So, what gives?
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Reply #136 posted 06/17/07 3:42pm

dseann

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krayzie said:



Oh really ?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...RFqGS7Y0Bw



Maybe because he's white.


But if he was black, you'd probably think he can't sing...
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Krayzie,

I disagree with it not being about genre or race. Rather, I think it comes down to just plain old talent. Unlike Robin,Rihanna is more of a "factory" made singer so you are not going to hear her sing anything that is out of her comfort zone. Robin on the other hand is also a writer and he was a writer before he became a singer. So, he is more capable of singing anything that is outside of his zone. I get the impression from reading these posts, that white people are incapable of singing R&B. Well, what about people like Hall & Oats or the Average White Band. They have been singing R&B music in it's truest form, for years. So, what gives?


Agreed,
What about Janis Joplin, Teena Marie, Rene Olstead, Pink?
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Reply #137 posted 06/18/07 1:23pm

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shorttrini said:

krayzie said:



Oh really ?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...RFqGS7Y0Bw



Maybe because he's white.


But if he was black, you'd probably think he can't sing...
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Krayzie,

I disagree with it not being about genre or race. Rather, I think it comes down to just plain old talent. Unlike Robin,Rihanna is more of a "factory" made singer so you are not going to hear her sing anything that is out of her comfort zone. Robin on the other hand is also a writer and he was a writer before he became a singer. So, he is more capable of singing anything that is outside of his zone. I get the impression from reading these posts, that white people are incapable of singing R&B. Well, what about people like Hall & Oats or the Average White Band. They have been singing R&B music in it's truest form, for years. So, what gives?


Wait a minute, the thread is 'Rihanna can't sing' not, Rihanna is a "factory" made singer.

Funny how you find excuses for Robin "white" Thicke since I found a terrible performance of him that shows how poor singer he is on stage.

Oh but Robin on the other hand is also a writer.
Oh but Robin he was a writer before he became a singer.

So that's OK he's white. So we can accept his poor performances. I don't think those excuses would work if he was black.

Robin Thicke is supposed to be a real SOUL singer ? And he's not even able to perform properly his own stuff on stage.

On the other hand Rhianna who is not supposed to be a soul singer in the first place is straight sentenced SHE CANT SING.


Rhianna is a POP/RnB singer just like the Gwen Stefani, the Nelly Furtado, the Fergie. AND SHE OUTSHINES ALL THOSE GIRLS VOCALLY.


But I've never seen thread about Nelly Furtado cant sing, Fergie cant sing', Fergie cant sing etc. There are so many white singers who can even come close to Rhiana. It's not even funny.

You only prove that there's a double standard and you're not even able to see that.
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Reply #138 posted 06/23/07 1:16pm

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Rihanna sounds okay on here: Maybe she can sing?

http://www.think2wice.org...e-can-sing
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Reply #139 posted 06/23/07 5:02pm

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probably has been said, but i ain't readin' all that sh*#, the industry doesn't CARE if u can't. as long as they can market u. hasn't stopped a whole lotta artists. esp. Madonna, Janet. huge upside in the Latin/Brazilian world for Rihanna, throw a rapper on a lead "urban single" and u have pop/urban markets locked. can't sing, but i bet she can laugh..... all the way to the bank.
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Reply #140 posted 06/23/07 5:12pm

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She can't...even on record....regardless:

my current guilty pleasure is Umbrella...jesus....I know it's a guilty pleasure too, cuz everytime I hear it I grin...I only grin on guilty pleasures....u know what I mean...then they came out wihthe cris Brown Cinderella remix...I'm in guilty pleasure heaven...My cheeks have seriously been cramping...cuz they ain't scared to play these tunes on the radio at all so I hear 'em all the dang -on time...lol...
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Reply #141 posted 06/23/07 5:14pm

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Prospect said:

I dont give a damn about her voice. She looks booty-licking good!!! razz




ditto...I still get hard thinking about her first vid...whew!
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