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Printablemancabdriver said: Amy is great. Its so typical of orgers to whine (no pun intended) and complain about those artists getting recognition,
If she wasn't selling, there'd be hundreds of posts about her not getting the love she deserves... I love Winehouse...Jay Z is an UNNECESSARY addition to "Rehab." | |
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mancabdriver said: Amy is great. Its so typical of orgers to whine (no pun intended) and complain about those artists getting recognition,
If she wasn't selling, there'd be hundreds of posts about her not getting the love she deserves... Sure, I've been an Amy fan since she came out with her debut years ago. It's just too bad that now that she's getting the credit she deserves, her record-company feels it's necessary to release a stupid remix with Jay Z fucking up a good song like he always does! | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: meow85 said: Slighty o/t: I can get not being into her music, but I've heard a lot of folks here and elsewhere trashing her for her behaviour (drinking). How many established artists -how many male artist's -have made a career of being professional drunks and addicts with nary a finger-wag at their excesses? People seem so utterly shocked and bowled over that this Winehouse chick drinks, and could likely drink them under a table. What's the deal? Are these people just so used to women who get completely sloshed off one or two girly drinks or a bottleneck of wine that a woman who drinks like a guy is worthy of being stared at and picked at like an act in a freak show?
I'm not trying to condone her, from what I understand, excessive alcohol consumption. But fucking seriously, guys. Talent issues aside, if Keith Richards is hailed as a hero for living this long with those habits of his, why is it cool to rag on Amy Winehouse? 
[Edited 6/5/07 20:03pm] C'mon now you cannot compare Keith Richards with Amy Winehouse Keith Richard's came from of an age of drugs, for him its expected... and he also didn't write songs like "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'" (which actually got her The Ivor Novello Awards,most likely because she was the only credible british artist at the time, which is fucking sasd for the brits) If you're gonna compare Winehouse to somebody, use a contemporary say... Ryan Adams 
Famous for wine guzzling, insulting the fuck out of toby Keith, and throwing a fan who yelled Summer Of 69,A Bryan Adams song,out of a concert. He's sober now, but back when he use to drink the media basically slammed him because of his wino ways. Despite being a prolific song writer, He was just an asshole and a drunk to boot. Winehouse is a Bitch & a Drunk, not a prolific song writer, but her producers are quite prolific, to a certain extent. The only reason Adams' is popular is because he has some formidable talent. Which is actually shinning brighter now that he's Sober. (Easy tiger) Winehouse, However, is just another voice among the sea of female vocalist. She does give us some nostalgia for Lauren Hill. But she can only ride that train for so long. I hope she lasts (and releases somecredible work), but it doesn't bode well for her. She does have Monsteer producers backing her though, Salaam Remi, and Mark Ronson are quite amazing. I'd liked to see how she do stripped from them though. That's when i'll see her real talent. Well bravo on those reading comprehension skills. 
When I said talent aside, that was, what I thought was at least, a pretty clear indication I wasn't comparing the two as artists. I was speaking strictly in terms of their behaviour, and really, the fact that Keef is poured out of a time when it was cool to be excessive with everything is irrelevent. Why is Richards hailed as a hero for going it hardcore, and Winehouse mocked? Makes no sense. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: EmbattledWarrior said: C'mon now you cannot compare Keith Richards with Amy Winehouse Keith Richard's came from of an age of drugs, for him its expected... and he also didn't write songs like "They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'" (which actually got her The Ivor Novello Awards,most likely because she was the only credible british artist at the time, which is fucking sasd for the brits) If you're gonna compare Winehouse to somebody, use a contemporary say... Ryan Adams
Famous for wine guzzling, insulting the fuck out of toby Keith, and throwing a fan who yelled Summer Of 69,A Bryan Adams song,out of a concert. He's sober now, but back when he use to drink the media basically slammed him because of his wino ways. Despite being a prolific song writer, He was just an asshole and a drunk to boot. Winehouse is a Bitch & a Drunk, not a prolific song writer, but her producers are quite prolific, to a certain extent. The only reason Adams' is popular is because he has some formidable talent. Which is actually shinning brighter now that he's Sober. (Easy tiger) Winehouse, However, is just another voice among the sea of female vocalist. She does give us some nostalgia for Lauren Hill. But she can only ride that train for so long. I hope she lasts (and releases somecredible work), but it doesn't bode well for her. She does have Monsteer producers backing her though, Salaam Remi, and Mark Ronson are quite amazing. I'd liked to see how she do stripped from them though. That's when i'll see her real talent. Well bravo on those reading comprehension skills.
When I said talent aside, that was, what I thought was at least, a pretty clear indication I wasn't comparing the two as artists. I was speaking strictly in terms of their behaviour, and really, the fact that Keef is poured out of a time when it was cool to be excessive with everything is irrelevent. Why is Richards hailed as a hero for going it hardcore, and Winehouse mocked? Makes no sense. Oooo sarcasm, You're probably sticking a feather in your cap for thinking you said something clever. You can't compare them outside of their talent because they grew up in different era's. Thats like comparing the recreational drug use of the late Timothy Leary with Old Dirty Bastard. And he's Keith bloody Richards. you can't compare her with him. find someone else. Use a contemporary... as i sugested, to validate your claims    I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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mancabdriver said: Amy is great. Its so typical of orgers to whine (no pun intended) and complain about those artists getting recognition,
If she wasn't selling, there'd be hundreds of posts about her not getting the love she deserves... Sorry charlie. Everybody has different musical tastes. I like corinne bailey rae. There were a lot of people here who don't care for her. A lot of people here like me here loves van hunt. Some don't care for him. It is the same with amy winehouse. It's alright if most orgers here love her. Personally i like some others just don't get the obsession with her. That's just the way it goes and it has nothing to do with complaining as much as it does with musical flavor of the orgers. Don't laugh at my funk
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EmbattledWarrior said: meow85 said: Well bravo on those reading comprehension skills.
When I said talent aside, that was, what I thought was at least, a pretty clear indication I wasn't comparing the two as artists. I was speaking strictly in terms of their behaviour, and really, the fact that Keef is poured out of a time when it was cool to be excessive with everything is irrelevent. Why is Richards hailed as a hero for going it hardcore, and Winehouse mocked? Makes no sense. Oooo sarcasm, You're probably sticking a feather in your cap for thinking you said something clever. You can't compare them outside of their talent because they grew up in different era's. Thats like comparing the recreational drug use of the late Timothy Leary with Old Dirty Bastard. And he's Keith bloody Richards. you can't compare her with him. find someone else. Use a contemporary... as i sugested, to validate your claims  Oh for fuck's sake."A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: EmbattledWarrior said: Oooo sarcasm, You're probably sticking a feather in your cap for thinking you said something clever. You can't compare them outside of their talent because they grew up in different era's. Thats like comparing the recreational drug use of the late Timothy Leary with Old Dirty Bastard. And he's Keith bloody Richards. you can't compare her with him. find someone else. Use a contemporary... as i sugested, to validate your claims Oh for fuck's sake.who's fuck?  I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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