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Thread started 05/30/07 11:38pm

weepingwall

does anyone know the real reason why the smiths broke up!









he has something to do with it! i am sure..

no really why did the brake up?
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Reply #1 posted 05/31/07 2:35am

PANDURITO

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Johnny left the group neutral
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Reply #2 posted 05/31/07 2:45am

peppeken

Morrisey and Johnny Marr were lovers and they split up..and then the band did. Still at least they went out on a high...didnt release crap records after their hey-day like U2 have been doing for the past 15 years ! sad
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Reply #3 posted 05/31/07 2:52am

PANDURITO

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Is Marr gay? confused
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Reply #4 posted 05/31/07 5:18am

Anxiety

they realized how much they got on my nerves and felt bad about it!
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Reply #5 posted 05/31/07 5:52am

CandaceS

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Anxiety said:

they realized how much they got on my nerves and felt bad about it!


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Reply #6 posted 05/31/07 6:37am

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Just listen to "Strangeways Here We Come". The breakup is all over that album.
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Reply #7 posted 05/31/07 7:09pm

thedribbler

peppeken said:

Morrisey and Johnny Marr were lovers and they split up..and then the band did. Still at least they went out on a high...didnt release crap records after their hey-day like U2 have been doing for the past 15 years ! sad

u2 have done good songs recently. Beautiful day, stuck in a moment
Morrissey has been kicking ass like never b4 recently.

Do you think it's hip to knock die hard bands from the 80s?
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Reply #8 posted 05/31/07 7:17pm

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Morrisey is crazy. That has to be the answer lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/31/07 7:28pm

CHIC0

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the Smiths mushy music
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Reply #10 posted 05/31/07 8:03pm

Mong

peppeken said:

Morrisey and Johnny Marr were lovers and they split up..and then the band did. Still at least they went out on a high...didnt release crap records after their hey-day like U2 have been doing for the past 15 years ! sad


Right reason, wrong band member.
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Reply #11 posted 05/31/07 10:13pm

Ace

They'd fulfilled their quota of inspiring young males to throw away their lives by romanticizing depression? razz
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Reply #12 posted 06/01/07 5:33am

LittleSmedley

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Is Marr gay? confused


no. Mozzer is, though, and a I think alot of the songs are about Morrissey's unrequited crush on Marr. They both understood this
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Reply #13 posted 06/01/07 8:56am

thedribbler

LittleSmedley said:

PANDURITO said:

Is Marr gay? confused


no. Mozzer is, though, and a I think alot of the songs are about Morrissey's unrequited crush on Marr. They both understood this

bollocks! marr is a guitar player, not fabulous in any other way
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Reply #14 posted 06/01/07 11:13am

markpeg

Were the bass player and drummer gay?
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Reply #15 posted 06/01/07 11:21am

LittleSmedley

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Were the bass player and drummer gay?


nope - just Morrissey
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Reply #16 posted 06/01/07 12:24pm

thedribbler

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markpeg said:

Were the bass player and drummer gay?


nope - just Morrissey

you're probably right, but I dunno
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Reply #17 posted 06/01/07 12:34pm

NWF

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I don't think any of them were gay. But who knows really? shrug


But yeah, Johnny took some time off in the summer of '87 to do some session work for Bryan Ferry. Somehow, someone got the impression that he was done with the group and sent the word to the enemy..er, I mean NME. The next issue had the headline "SMITHS TO SPLIT!". But I'm sure that's not what Johnny intended to do. But he felt that one of the others conspired to put the word out. So he left and the others struggled to keep it going, but they left soon after.



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Reply #18 posted 06/01/07 1:09pm

Mong

Mike Joyce is bisexual and was going out with Morrissey. Mike dumped Morrissey for a woman who he ended up marrying. That's the story, OK?
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Reply #19 posted 06/01/07 2:04pm

NWF

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Mong said:

Mike Joyce is bisexual and was going out with Morrissey. Mike dumped Morrissey for a woman who he ended up marrying. That's the story, OK?


How do you know this? Who are your sources? hmm
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Reply #20 posted 06/01/07 2:24pm

Ace

NWF said:

Somehow, someone got the impression that he was done with the group and sent the word to the enemy..er, I mean NME. The next issue had the headline "SMITHS TO SPLIT!". But I'm sure that's not what Johnny intended to do. But he felt that one of the others conspired to put the word out. So he left

Does that really make sense to you?
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Reply #21 posted 06/01/07 2:31pm

Ace

From Wikipedia:

The Smiths were reunited in court in 1996 to settle a royalties claim by Joyce against Morrissey and Marr, who had claimed the lion's share of the Smiths recording and performance royalties and allowed only ten percent each to Joyce and Rourke (composition royalties were not an issue, as Rourke and Joyce had never been credited as composers for the band). Morrissey and Marr claimed that the other two members of the band had always agreed to that split of the royalties, but the court found in favour of Joyce, and ordered that he be paid over £1m in back pay and receive twenty-five percent henceforth. As Smiths royalties had been frozen for two years, being under financial pressure Rourke settled for a smaller lump sum to pay off debts, and continued to receive ten percent. Morrissey was described by the judge as "devious, truculent and unreliable."


"Money changes everything" indeed. wink
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Reply #22 posted 06/01/07 2:59pm

NWF

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Ace said:

NWF said:

Somehow, someone got the impression that he was done with the group and sent the word to the enemy..er, I mean NME. The next issue had the headline "SMITHS TO SPLIT!". But I'm sure that's not what Johnny intended to do. But he felt that one of the others conspired to put the word out. So he left

Does that really make sense to you?


It was a conspiracy, man!
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Reply #23 posted 06/01/07 3:04pm

Ace

NWF said:

Ace said:


Does that really make sense to you?


It was a conspiracy, man!

And you wonder why you can't get laid. neutral
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