Anyone a fan of this Band? They are not for everyone, that's for sure. Never see them mentioned here. IMO the 4 albums below are their best. Very heavy and layered with guitar. Didn't really get into them much after Filth Pig (which I thought was terrible). I've seen them Live as well and while it was good, I can say I don't need to see them again live.


Twitch


Land of Rape and Honey


The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste

Psalm 69

Saw them (and Revolting Cocks) in LA last year... my ears are STILL ringing! Mind, Rape and Psalm - are my favorites!

DiminutiveRocker said:

For me it was NYE '89. It was them RevCo, Skater Nix and others. Highlights included...

The start of Breathe as they counted down the midnight hour. There were fire breathers and dancers on the stage, which was fenced off.

All the hair hoppers leaving after 30 minutes because this wasn't the Everyday is Halloween band they came to hear (the show was promoted on the local pop stations with the "bob be bop bop" in playing in the background) Needless to say nothing pre Land was featured.

During the show there was a LARD interlude with Jello Biafra. We walked around.

Eveyone was there as a guest...it was madness.

Seeing our buddy, who was in the pit get onto the fence and Alan knocking him off of it.

I like everything, except filth pig. great band though.

superspaceboy said:

OH! Is this the same concert tour with the chain-link fence surrounding it with two drummers?!?! I saw the DVD of that tour - it was awesome!

I am a late bloomer when it comes to most industrial music (I was knee-deep in grunge at the time - ), but I've really come to like and appreciate it!

P.S.

go to:

http://www.ministrymusic.org/

Join the PISS ARMY!

DiminutiveRocker said:

"In case you missed"...Yeah I think that's the one. I heard it's good, though I have never seen/heard it.

BTW Grunge came a few years later. I do think that Land & Mind spurned rock to come back...or at least was the beginning of that. I can def hear things that would eventually influence bands like Marilyn Manson

superspaceboy said:

Since Trent Reznor was a huge Ministry fan (and momentarily a Revolting Cock himself) and part of that whole Chicago industrial Wax Trax scene and he in turned kind of mentored Manson.. I'd say you're correct! Al Jorgensen also worked with Skinny Puppy. After all, Al is the Godfather of Industrial music

[all this info is from a Chi-town born engineer/producer who hung at Wax Trax and turned me on to all this music]



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DiminutiveRocker said:

I hope I would be sorta correct...I am from Chicago and used to go to Wax Trax back in the day

Didn't Ministry and Trent do a song together...Supernaut?

A great comp from Wax Trax of course is the Black Box Compilation

superspaceboy said:

YES! Trent's vocals on Supernaut are amazing.

As for the grunge/industrial era, I think people from the city or region where certain kinds of music hails from are more familiar with the groups and sound WAY before it gets out into the mainstream.Grunge bands were already playing the smaller clubs down the west coast before they broke out HUGE. And the peeps I know from Chicago were way into industrial before it got big as well - NIN sort of became the front-runner in breaking through to the mainstream, wouldn't you say?

DiminutiveRocker said:

They were one of them. What's interesting is that Industrial Music started a bit before before NIN with your German/British counterparts like Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb leading the way in the Mid - Late 80's. IMO NIN were almost towards the end of that era. Pretty Hate Machine almost put the cap on the scene. Industrial was pretty dead around '95. NIN moved on and merged into the grunge electronica that would become prevailent in bands like them and Marilyn Manson.

superspaceboy said:

yup! I worked my way backwards from Manson to NIN to Ministry
and let's not forget the German Industrials KMFDM, and offshoots like PigFace with Martin Atkins and Bill Rieflin. I also like Skinny Puppy.

*It's funny - you are the first person outside the one friend that intro'd me to industrial whom I've discussed this with - I feel like I took a class and am now putting what (little) knowledge I acquired to practice

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yes yes...KMFDM and Skinny Puppy. Not really my cups of tea. I like some of their music. What was interesting was the merge of techno and rock even mixed with a bit of house for some of the bands around that time. Not to mention that computers and samplers were becoming huge and helping push the movement forward especially in the 12" format. Even older incarnations of My Life with the Thrill Kill Cult and Lords of acid came out of that time, though neither has that sound anymore. Speaking of Lords of Acid, Praga Khan was a huge pioneer in the techno sound, though he was mostly in the background like he is today. Even other bands like Front Line Assembly veered off to Delerium. Alot of what was happening was giving way to a new type of music...electronica of a sort.

Ministry's cool.

Didn't 1000 Homo DJ's have a song called "Supernaut" too?

GangstaFam said:

1000 Homo DJs was an Al side project It was a Black Sabbath song orignally.

The song was later covered by the Al Jourgensen-led 1000 Homo DJs for their Supernaut EP with vocals by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails. The original version of this cover was not released for some time, as Reznor's record company would not allow it. It was later released on a Wax Trax compilation album, Black Box retrospective. Many people incorrectly label this version as a Nine Inch Nails song.

During August 1990, Trent Reznor toured briefly with Revolting Cocks (another Al Jourgensen band), and together, they performed Supernaut live several times, with Reznor singing the vocals. [1] This could be classified as a Revolting Cocks w/ Trent Reznor version of the 1000 Homo DJs cover of the Black Sabbath song. This version is only available on bootleg recordings.



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