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Reply #30 posted 05/30/07 5:11am

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PurpleCharm said:

MikeMatronik said:



I'm Portuguese and I am White!

For some odd reason, many people seem to think that Italian, Portuguese and Spanish people are not white...totally ignoring the fact that Italy, Portugal and Spain are in Europe.


Exactly!

And back on topic, where is Rihanna's umbrella song. I think that song is hella annoying, but I haven't heard much of it in the past two weeks.
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Reply #31 posted 05/30/07 9:11am

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SoulAlive said:

It's a shame that India Arie doesn't get the attention she deserves.Unlike Beyonce,Ashanti and the others,India is actually making music with substance.Her songs have a message.Her hit from last year "There's Hope" should have been all over the radio and on the video shows.I guess because she's dark-skinned and doesn't wear a hairweave,they won't play her songs on the radio rolleyes It's a damn shame



The reason There's Hope didn't make a big impact because it didn't have a video which can be blamed on Motown since they always have shitty promotion...
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Reply #32 posted 05/30/07 10:55am

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PurpleCharm said:

MikeMatronik said:



I'm Portuguese and I am White!

For some odd reason, many people seem to think that Italian, Portuguese and Spanish people are not white...totally ignoring the fact that Italy, Portugal and Spain are in Europe.



it's the same mind set that says Latin is Central and South America.

When really Latins lived in Rome. There langauge in vulgar forms became Italian, French, Spanish, Portugeuse, Romaninan and a few others. That would mean all of them would have to be just as Latin as our neighbors south of the boarder.
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Reply #33 posted 05/30/07 11:13am

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MISSING: BLACK WOMEN ON BILLBOARD

Despite releases from many black female artists this year like Jill Scott, Ciara, Macy Gray, Fantasia (December 2006) and more, black female artists are nearly nonexistent on the Billboard charts. This week there are no black female artists in the top 20 on the Billboard 200 album chart (Beyonce and Corrine Bailey Rae make the top 40) and there are no black women in the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart. Just five years ago there were six black women in the top forty on the Billboard 200, two being in the top five (Ashanti and Lauryn Hill) and Ashanti had the number one single in the country (yeah, not that I'm an Ashanti fan but you get my point).

What is happening to black women in music? Before you say it's just a woman thing—this week, there are 13 white women on Billboard 200 album chart in the top 40 and six of them are in the top ten. It simply cannot be male domination on the charts.

Black women are being ignored in popular music. There is little to no marketing, which results in little to no airplay and equals no sales. For example, we are all eagerly awaiting Kelly Rowland's new album, which has been pushed back another week to July 3rd, but where is the promotion? I barely hear the first single on the radio and shouldn't a second single be released soon? Someone hypothesized to me that Rowland will never get the promotion she deserves because she is dark-skinned. However, if being a light-skinned black woman equals promotions (i.e., Rihanna, Beyonce, Alicia Keys) then what about Mya? Mya's album has been pushed back again and her promotion is about as visible as an R. Kelly trial.

Many white woman are jumping on the R&B band wagon (if you want to call it that) like Fergie, Nelly Furtado and Gwen Stefani (two formerly being rock artists). Years ago, the only white women who would sing an R&B song were Teena Marie and maybe Madonna. Now, the American public would rather hear R&B music from the skinner, paler, overproduced white counterpart. Are white female artists taking jobs away from black females, similar to models complaining actresses are snatching their jobs?

Who is really to blame? Is the black female voice no longer important in popular music? Surely, if R&B music still equaled VOICE then Nelly and Fergie would not have a chance in blonde-haired hell. But, R&B music equals overproduced rhythms and the person who is the most marketable to whisper in tune.

It is a crisis in the music industry when it seems there is no room for black female artists. Unfortunately, the days of Stephanie Mills, Patti Labelle and Phyllis Hyman are long gone. However, the days of Diana Ross and even Janet Jackson are many moons ago. R.I.P. black women in music...oh, there is still Beyonce.....

http://claycane.blogspot.com/

-So are black women in the music industry today just lacking in talent or would the masses just rather hear the likes of Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse, Lily Allen, etc. singing R&B instead of black female singers?
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Well again its IMAGE, a label will not push an Angie Stone,Jill Scott,Amel Larrieux the way they will push Ciara, those other ladies will not get the video play nor the media attention that Ciara does get. But dont dismiss the whole MALE/FEMALE thing, take a look at the Whole MYA issue going down at Motown, this record was done mid 2006 and has been pushed back 8 times, now the date has TBA, which basically means "shelved" or released overseas. During this whole time Motown has had no issue with Promoting albums by Lloyd and Tank, but MYA gets the backseat. The same can be said of Amerie, who also completed her cd late last year and also had date changes, she on SONY, better known as Beyonce-ville has not given her cd a date, they say they wanna "work it", the album already has been issued all over europe, and at this point no date is set in the states. So i dont think its really any special reason, but i feel the field for the RB female and what she has to look like and sound like is Narrowing. Whether it be Jill Scott or Angie or Mya or AMerie all of these artists are different in their styles, they arent the "norm" so they are considered to hard to market, so labels just put them out there, and media pays them no mind. Right now MYA is playing shows in Vienna and working the new album overseas, due to this sudden change in climate here in the states.

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Reply #34 posted 05/30/07 5:16pm

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Most of the music on the charts is bullshit nod
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Reply #35 posted 05/30/07 5:22pm

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its funny that I'm listening to a lotta black female artists...


talk to the labels, viacom and clear channel.


They'd rather see Joss than Jill.....



Exactly there's many out there....I actually find most of them on myspace and the majority of them are unsigned. A lot of talent out there, but they are not getting picked up by the labels...sad.
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