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Printablestudentofmusic said: i doubt mike reached out to quincy jones..honestly doubt it, mike quit working with him in the first place, cause he was taking credit for work he didn't do, quincy is bad, he's a great composer, one of the best, but that off the wall, thriller deal, is honestly mike, and rod temperton, point blank...
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Graycap23 said: SOME artists don't NEED outside producers.....one in particular comes 2 mind. Prince.
Lol if you say so. Actually though "Stranger In Moscow" is one of the best songs MJ ever recorded and he wrote and produced that song by himself so I don't think he actually needs outside producers all the time. I would prefer it if he produced more songs himself to be honest and I am glad MJ is not working with Quincy. krayzie said: Why so many people still believe Mike can make a comeback ?
Michael Jackson should retire for good. Everytime he releases a new shit, he's getting worse and worse. Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? But I don't think anyone says he should retire. Thank god Michael isn't retiring now though. And Invincible is still one of the best album to come out the last few years. Music today is s*it for the most part so I'm excited for the new album. [Edited 5/28/07 13:07pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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thedoorkeeper said: FuNkeNsteiN said: I associate Q first and foremost with the Brothers Johnson. They are the first thing that pops in my mind when I think about Q. MJ comes in second.
I do see where Quincy is coming from, I mean they already 'been there and done that' and he has other projects. On top of that, he's also getting old. Glad to hear someone remembers Q's work with The Brothers Johnson. I get so disgusted when people here refer to Q as a jazz producer until MJ had the incredible wisdom to pick him as a producer. Q was producing pop/funk classics way before he hooked up with MJ. But that doesn't jive with peoples vision of MJ as the 2nd coming. Well choke on your own disgust. Q has a considerable number of jazz productions under his name that predate the Bros. Johnson association.    
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Empress said: I'm very happy to hear that Q will not give his time to MJ. As he said, he has tons of things he's working on and I'm sure he doesn't have the time for bullshit. He's not young anymore either and I highly doubt he would like the media circus that would surround him if he got involved. I'm glad he's staying clear of this.
Strange, how people accept this media report that "Quincy Snubs Michael". How do we know if Michael really asked Quincy? I truly doubt that he did and the media is well known for not reporting facts. Remember, how they twisted what really happened at the World Music Awards last year. Every single piece of footage released showed the overwhelming ovation that Michael received from the audience. The subsequent TV airing of the event further solidified that the media was blantantly lying and that Michael didn't get booed, didn't forget any words as the sang along with the chorus and that his appearance was not intended to be a performance. This is the very reason that I believe the Quincy story is a lie. | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? [/b] I don't think so. Here are the BILLBOARD peak postions: 2005 A Time 2 Love European Top 100 Albums 2005 A Time To Love The Billboard 200 5 2005 A Time To Love Top Internet Albums 5 2005 A Time To Love Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 2 2006 A Time To Love The Billboard 200 5 2006 A Time To Love Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 2 plus a "Best Male Pop Vocal Performance" from 2005 - 48th Annual GRAMMY Awards for "From The Bottom Of My Heart". test | |
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Cinnamon234 said: Graycap23 said: SOME artists don't NEED outside producers.....one in particular comes 2 mind. Prince.
Lol if you say so. Actually though "Stranger In Moscow" is one of the best songs MJ ever recorded and he wrote and produced that song by himself so I don't think he actually needs outside producers all the time. I would prefer it if he produced more songs himself to be honest and I am glad MJ is not working with Quincy. krayzie said: Why so many people still believe Mike can make a comeback ?
Michael Jackson should retire for good. Everytime he releases a new shit, he's getting worse and worse. Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? But I don't think anyone says he should retire. Thank god Michael isn't retiring now though. And Invincible is still one of the best album to come out the last few years. Music today is s*it for the most part so I'm excited for the new album. [Edited 5/28/07 13:07pm]
First of all Stevie Wonder is not Michael Jackson.
The fact you still believe that a 50 year old Michael Jackson (who screwed up his face and definitely lost his mind) can still come back is jockable. And stop living in the past, even Prince struggles to release a good album. He cannot dance like he used to, he cannot sing like he used to, he cannot perfom like he used to, he's uglier than ever and he's old. The great michael jackson is behind us. Michael Jackson' s comeback will damage his legacy. [Edited 5/28/07 13:47pm] |
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krayzie said: Cinnamon234 said: Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? But I don't think anyone says he should retire. Thank god Michael isn't retiring now though. And Invincible is still one of the best album to come out the last few years. Music today is s*it for the most part so I'm excited for the new album. [Edited 5/28/07 13:07pm]
First of all Stevie Wonder is not Michael Jackson.
The fact you still believe that a 50 year old Michael Jackson (who screwed up his face and definitely lost his mind) can still come back is jockable. And stop living in the past, even Prince struggles to release a good album. He cannot dance like he used to, he cannot sing like he used to, he cannot perfom like he used to, he's uglier than ever and he's old. The great michael jackson is behind us. Michael Jackson' s comeback will damage his legacy. [Edited 5/28/07 13:47pm] How do you know  ?
Are you God ?or do you have powerful method to know what the future? How do you know that prince struggles to make a good album? and you say That Mj is uglier than ever? WTF, I would love to see a picture of you so I can judge you and know how you look like. If you buy a freaking album because of artists looks then am happy to tell you that you have a shallow thinking. Mj never released a poor album and , Looks don't matter , people will buy the album if its Good..No matter how he looks. MICHAEL JACKSON
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Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson. | |
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krayzie said: Cinnamon234 said: Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? But I don't think anyone says he should retire. Thank god Michael isn't retiring now though. And Invincible is still one of the best album to come out the last few years. Music today is s*it for the most part so I'm excited for the new album. [Edited 5/28/07 13:07pm]
First of all Stevie Wonder is not Michael Jackson.
The fact you still believe that a 50 year old Michael Jackson (who screwed up his face and definitely lost his mind) can still come back is jockable. And stop living in the past, even Prince struggles to release a good album. He cannot dance like he used to, he cannot sing like he used to, he cannot perfom like he used to, he's uglier than ever and he's old. The great michael jackson is behind us. Michael Jackson' s comeback will damage his legacy. [Edited 5/28/07 13:47pm] Um... you're wrong Actually Michael's Vocal Range is better than his younger years. He's a complete 4 Octaves now just like Prince His dancing, is not as good because... well he's old... what do you expect? but he still can dance better than the majority of his imitators He's ugly, so what? If 50 cents ugly ass can sell records so can Michael... All mike has gotta do is workout and get a six pack and people would stop looking at his face and look at his washboard stomach *fuck i think i just vomited in my mouth saying that, sadly its true though* A good record will always be a good record And michael jackson will always be michael jackson so a good record plus Michael Jackson will always be successful The question is whether he can churn it out... I'm first to say that a good portion of invincible was shit... but the fact that it was shit, didn't have anything to do with it flopping... we ALL know it was the promotion... Sony and michael originally planned to release 7 singles and videos to accompany them, it didn't happen, Michael's music videos and singles happen to sell his records... If michael can release at least 5 singles and videos to help promote this next album i guarantee the album will be a success even if it is shitty... [Edited 5/28/07 15:08pm] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
EXACTLY! Gimme 5  I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Empress said: I'm very happy to hear that Q will not give his time to MJ. As he said, he has tons of things he's working on and I'm sure he doesn't have the time for bullshit. He's not young anymore either and I highly doubt he would like the media circus that would surround him if he got involved. I'm glad he's staying clear of this.
Your hate for Michael Jackson knows no bounds!!! Get over it!!!he is'nt going anywhere! Simply put,if this article is to be believed.... Quincy Jones has alot on his plate, hence is not able to link up with MJ on this new project, thats life.....move the hell on!!! I for one don't wish to see another MJ/Q colaboration, its been done before and should be left at that. Besides, Quincy as a producer in 2007, I'm not so sure about. | |
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PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
Thank you....It won't be crappy, but he'll still dominate!!  | |
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PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
That's the tragedy of MJ: his fans keep saying "amen" @ every of his BS. | |
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ReggaeQueen said: PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
Thank you....It won't be crappy, but he'll still dominate!! Exactly, If Mj have Put out a crappy album then I would love someone to tell me what it is? Maybe there are albums that are stronger than otheralbums but none of his albums are Crap...the man nearly has a perfect body of work. MICHAEL JACKSON
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PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
That's just sad  | |
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jn2 said: PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
That's the tragedy of MJ: his fans keep saying "amen" @ every of his BS. Kinda like Prince fans ... And I did say fans ...that Fam stuff was over years ago ... Youth is wasted on the young ..... | |
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Whatever. Michael is tired and crazy and needs to stop resting on his laurels and get his (formerly) black ass back to WORK and stop being such a Piece.Of.Work. if he wants to keep his music cred in check. End of story.  | |
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NME is a very ignorant music paper, and it's always been very anti Michael Jackson.
This story is Quincy Jones snubbing the idea of teaming up with Michael Jackson is old news. It's not an exlusive NME story but, it's from Roger Friedman of Fox News who is well known for writing lies about Michael Jackson. I doubt the story of Quincy Jones snubbing Michael Jackson is true. Besides though Quincy Jones is by far the best producer Michael has worked with, as he was to Michael Jackson what producer George Martin was to The Beatles. I think Quincy Jones who is now 74yrs old is in my opinion too old to produce a new Michael Jackson album. I acutally Michael Jackson should start producing more of his songs by himself, as he's a brilliant producer in his own right and doesn't really need collaboraters, as the producers he's worked with post Quincy Jones have made Michael Jackson sound over produced. While the songs Michael's produced on his own like Stranger In Moscow, They Don't Care About Us, D.S and Morphine etc are just as great as the songs Quincy Jones produced and co-produced (as all the songs Michael wrote when working with Quincy Jones were co-produced by Michael jackson). | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: All mike has gotta do is workout and get a six pack and people would stop looking at his face and look at his washboard stomach
*fuck i think i just vomited in my mouth saying that i was gonna say..... "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: EmbattledWarrior said: All mike has gotta do is workout and get a six pack and people would stop looking at his face and look at his washboard stomach
*fuck i think i just vomited in my mouth saying that i was gonna say..... you all are SO not right!
that being said, he was just on tv on a news clip here in europe and he had on the nicest outfit! not that usual captain crunch shit he wears. simple, all black, with a properly fitted man's leather jacket in a slim cut. i was like DAMN, mike is looking GOOOD, until they panned the camera to that freaky friday face of his and fucked the WHOLE thing up.  | |
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Ottensen said: Raze said: i was gonna say..... you all are SO not right!
that being said, he was just on tv on a news clip here in europe and he had on the nicest outfit! not that usual captain crunch shit he wears. simple, all black, with a properly fitted man's leather jacket in a slim cut. i was like DAMN, mike is looking GOOOD, until they panned the camera to that freaky friday face of his and fucked the WHOLE thing up.  "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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PFunkjazz said: Cinnamon234 said: Didn't Stevie Wonder's last album flop big time? [/b] I don't think so. Here are the BILLBOARD peak postions: 2005 A Time 2 Love European Top 100 Albums 2005 A Time To Love The Billboard 200 5 2005 A Time To Love Top Internet Albums 5 2005 A Time To Love Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 2 2006 A Time To Love The Billboard 200 5 2006 A Time To Love Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums 2 plus a "Best Male Pop Vocal Performance" from 2005 - 48th Annual GRAMMY Awards for "From The Bottom Of My Heart". Just like I said...it flopped. I don't think most people were even aware that Stevie had a new album out and his best days are long behind him as well but I didn't know he had won a grammy in 2005-congrats to him on that. [Edited 5/29/07 12:52pm] [Edited 5/29/07 12:52pm] "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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jn2 said: PricelessHo said: Jacko could come back with the crapiest project and he'll still dominate in my book. He's Michael fucking Jackson.
That's the tragedy of MJ: his fans keep saying "amen" @ every of his BS. It's no different than any other artist and their fans so I don't know why people just LOVE to single out MJ fans only so whatever
SeeingVoices12 said: Exactly, If Mj have Put out a crappy album then I would love someone to tell me what it is? Maybe there are albums that are stronger than otheralbums but none of his albums are Crap...the man nearly has a perfect body of work. Yup. Nobody can make the claim that any of Michael Jackson's album are complete crap. HE has NEVER released a terrible album in his life so I don't see why this new album should be any different. A new MJ album will still be 10X better than half of the bulls*it you hear on the radio today and that is a fact! "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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Cinnamon234 said:[quote] jn2 said: It's no different than any other artist and their fans so I don't know why people just LOVE to single out MJ fans only so whatever
do you ever wonder why they're so singled out? maybe because they're just a tad more unhinged than every other artist's fanbase? I like the guy's work, but come on. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Cinnamon234 said:[quote] jn2 said: It's no different than any other artist and their fans so I don't know why people just LOVE to single out MJ fans only so whatever
SeeingVoices12 said: Exactly, If Mj have Put out a crappy album then I would love someone to tell me what it is? Maybe there are albums that are stronger than otheralbums but none of his albums are Crap...the man nearly has a perfect body of work. Yup. Nobody can make the claim that any of Michael Jackson's album are complete crap. HE has NEVER released a terrible album in his life so I don't see why this new album should be any different. A new MJ album will still be 10X better than half of the bulls*it you hear on the radio today and that is a fact!  wow you really believe this? | |
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Who in their right mind wants a 74 year old man producing his/her cd? | |
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Raze said:[quote] Cinnamon234 said: jn2 said: It's no different than any other artist and their fans so I don't know why people just LOVE to single out MJ fans only so whatever
do you ever wonder why they're so singled out? maybe because they're just a tad more unhinged than every other artist's fanbase? I like the guy's work, but come on. i kinda disagree, All fans are dillusional, Prince fans are no different(the cats that converted to JW just because he did) MJ fans have to tolerate with alot of shit... So they're always on the defense. But yah fans are fans, they're all the same. I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Raze said: do you ever wonder why they're so singled out? maybe because they're just a tad more unhinged than every other artist's fanbase? I like the guy's work, but come on. i kinda disagree, All fans are dillusional, Prince fans are no different(the cats that converted to JW just because he did) MJ fans have to tolerate with alot of shit... So they're always on the defense. But yah fans are fans, they're all the same. I've never heard or read about JW conversion because of Prince but, on the contrary, lots of Larry Graham/JW critics. Many Prince's fans were angry/ disappointed, even left the boat, because of: - the CB presale fiasco - NPS, Rave Un2 - the lawsuits against fans sites - the JW propaganda, the cryptic bullshits.. In the case of the "KOP" it's always the medias's faults, he didn't have any childhood etc | |
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jn2 said: EmbattledWarrior said: i kinda disagree, All fans are dillusional, Prince fans are no different(the cats that converted to JW just because he did) MJ fans have to tolerate with alot of shit... So they're always on the defense. But yah fans are fans, they're all the same. I've never heard or read about JW conversion because of Prince but, on the contrary, lots of Larry Graham/JW critics. Many Prince's fans were angry/ disappointed, even left the boat, because of: - the CB presale fiasco - NPS, Rave Un2 - the lawsuits against fans sites - the JW propaganda, the cryptic bullshits.. In the case of the "KOP" it's always the medias's faults, he didn't have any childhood etc well don't avoid the fact that there are two spectrums to everything Alot of cats worship the ground prince walks on, but alot are more realistic too, that again can go with any Artist as well. I had my mj brigade card revokeed, but i still dig some of his music... But i have to say i don't worship the ground he walks on MJ captivateed me for a good three years than i kinda moved on Fans are called fans because they are FANATICS Doesn't make a different who the artist is. Shit the madonna hags are damn near deadly, same for janet I went to a Slayer concert and if you said ANYTHING bad about slayer , you were getting your ass kicked! Fans are fans, that's why they're fans whatever that means... [Edited 5/29/07 22:32pm] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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