http://www.youtube.com/wa...1v8mXcAFfY

More wigger moments here:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...7OxYBlTbKo

As pathetic as the people he's trying to emulate.

it was almost like he was spoofing himself in the video. i was like u CAN'T be serious.

in the Hit Factory interview though, i learned something i didn't know. that he was formerly in The Roots (not at the several shows i saw back in the day in Detroit, Kamal was always on keys, but..) nor did i know that he produced You Got Me, their most commercially successful song.

here's something to ponder though. if a white person is fully immersed in black culture during their formative years, can the appropriation of certain dress styles, and ways of talking rightfully still be called "wiggerism"? not saying that's the case here by any means, just wanting to hear some thoughts

datdude said:

that a great topic for discussion

and it probably won't get TOUCHED here. LOL. well, i tried

datdude said:

Well I can't talk much because I'm not an hip-hop fan. I sometimes listen to some artists like Common or matisyahu

Man, dude can't rap and that video SUX! Dude needs to stay behind the board!

datdude said:

Its been touched on here before. You're not bringing up anything new.
The answer: Teena Marie and Jon B. Nobody ever calls them wiggers. The problem is white people who imitate the sensationalist stereotypes of black people. Not all of us are ignorant and undereducated. Anyone with an ounce of respect for the culture has nothing but contempt for coonery (see Young Jeezy and Rich Boy) and even more dislike for imitation of it. When jackasses like Justin T. use the culture and try to appear to be "down" for profit, people see right through that bullshit and HELL NO its not accepted and HELL YEAH its wiggerism. White people who immerse themselves in black culture (hip-hop is NOT a representation of black culture but a mere aspect of a vastly greater diversity, by the way) are often accepted, to a much greater degree. There will always be those that reject them but the truth lies in the consistency. Fakers always change their colors accordingly.

BlaqueKnight said:

. If they ever put the word "Wiggerism" in the dictionary, Vanilla Ice should be used as a prime example. When he came out, Brothers new he was phony as a 3 dollar bill. All it took from me is the first time I heard him say "Word To Your Mother" And I knew he was frontin. I think Ice was the main reason why white rappers were'nt accepted for a long time until Eminem, Kid Rock and Bubba Sparxx came along. A funny story about Young Jeezy. Me and my brother and my teenage nephew were at my parents house having a discussion about Hip Hip, When one of us mentioned Young Jeezy. My Mother who is a deeply religous, Scripture quoting, Pentecostal Prayer warrior, Overheard that name and said "Young Jeezy? Don't Y'all mean Young JESUS?" It took us about 10 minutes to stop laughing.

all image, not a whole lot of talent as far as I can see

he looks like a 15 year old trying to cop a look, and just coming off like a fool. But it looks like a lot of his people are buying it. Morons.

ThePunisher said:

@ Young Jesus

MikeMatronik said:

This is the video where Scott Storch comfirmed that he's the "piano man" that Timbaland was dissing in that other song with Nelly Furtudo & Justin.

BlaqueKnight said:

Footnote of the week!

Anyone in the entertainment business is selling an image... real or fake... why is one better than the other?

Anyone that disses Timbaland a-ok in my book.
[Edited 5/17/07 1:50am]

i'm relatively new to the org and when i've seen strains of this topic in other threads i've been sadly surprised by the amount of ignorance. i imagine some people have gotten tired of typing paragraphs to attempt to undue years of socialization around such complex issues esp. since some people are content and even arrogant in their ignorance. but i like the Jon B. and Teena Marie examples. just those two huh, hmmm. i just found out Robin Thicke was white (that's how "disconnected" i've become), will or can he be added to that list?

this guy is one of most visually unappealing people i've ever seen in my life. he's just.... gross and skeezy. and the bling doesn't hide it the way he thinks it does.

Um... so this isn't a Saturday Night Live sketch?

Empress said:

Who are the people he's trying to emulate?

The way everyone talked about this guy I was surpirsed he actually had reasonably butch voice... his blaccent sounds convincing (to an untrained ear).

"I'm a gangsta" sure you are, whatever that means

"you like to take it up the arse" lame...

"those popcorn beats aint street they in drag" I actually like that line... in drag.

What the fuck is a "banana clip", an uzi?

What label is he talking about?

"you can't rap" bit of a spade calling a spade.

"built like that" not sure I get this, what Timbaland isn't muscular enough to "talk shit" about storch behind his back. What does Timba's build have to go with his shit talking abilities?

MikeMatronik said:

Rappers havin beef with other rappers is one thang. But Producers?...Timbaland and Scott Storch?... with a side of . Sad state of affairs yall.