qvgangsta18 said:

I don't know if Cissy's a great mother or not but I wouldn't put all the blame on the mother for how the kids turned out. Children make their own choices at some point.

Well it was the same deal with Nick and Jessica. I mean he played like the wounded guy and got alot of money off her, and really both of them had careers before each other, and be honest whatever Popularity came from that show was based on what "stupid" thing that girl was gonna say, it was the only reason people watched, so Nick was there for a free ride too. Hes a more stable version of a K-fed and definitely Bobby Brown. In there cases i dont think either parent should have custody of the kid.

SoulAlive said:

actually like i said, it's her fault. she knew his career wasn't up to par. he didn't FORCE her to support him, she did it willingly when she married him. she knew what she was getting into, let him take her for every dime she has left.

I still don't get how some people can defend Whitney to high hell. She is just as much to blame for her career going bust as Bobby is.
[Edited 5/14/07 10:23am]

lastdecember said:

Messy - all of it.

I do miss "BEING BOBBY BROWN" though.
[Edited 5/14/07 11:43am]

missfee said:

I agree with you, whitney went into the game with her eyes open, bobby was a crackhead, whitney chose to take drugs, no body forces you to shove that shit up your nose, birds of a feather flock togeather.Please dont make out that whitney is the victim, thats bull shit!

Look at pete docherty and kate moss, everyone blames pete, but Kate is still on crack,and people try and deny that shit ( 2 weeks in rehab and your clean, are u insane)? trust me,the 12 step programme takes a lot longer than that to get clean!

SoulAlive said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...2RGeShhKcs

Check THAT upcoming new reality series out! It's Bobby (on drugs?!?) thinking about killing Jamie Campbell.

missfee said:

No,I'm not really defending Whitney at all.She made some bad choices.I just don't see why she should have to continue to support a guy she's no longer married to.Let him be a man for once and go out there and make his own money! Even though his career is over (for the most part),there are several ways that he could generate a little income.He could do a reunion tour with New Edition.He could do another reality show.He could go on 'Surreal Life' or any one of those other reality shows for has-beens (hey,it's a paycheck).There's no need for him to rely on Whitney anymore.He's just lazy and doesn't want to work.


"he didn't FORCE her to support him,she did it willingly when she married him"

True,but they are no longer married.Any arrangements they had before are no longer valid.He's on his own now,he'll have to find a new meal ticket.

2903dad said:

I understand all that.I know that Whitney has only herself to blame.Nobody can "force" you to take drugs.I get that,and I'm not letting her off the hook.But I'm not talking about that.I'm saying that Bobby needs to be a man for once and go out there and make his own money.If he's man enough to sleep around and have all these children with different women,he should be man enough to get a real job and support them.Whitney is not obligated to be his eternal meal ticket.

vainandy said:

well,you hate her anyway

thedoorkeeper said:

The only reason Bobby is having financial problems is because he doesn't WORK.Most normal people work for a living.I see no reason why Bobby can't do the same.His New Edition bandmates work their asses off,touring all through the year.They didn't marry rich women who would support them.

As for why Whitney got full custody....by all accounts,she has kicked her drug habit.She's clean.Plus,in most cases,full custody always go to the mother,unless she is proven to an unfit parent.Furthermore,why would any judge grant full custody to Bobby? He can't even afford to support himself!

SoulAlive said:

yeah i get your point of view of it and all, but how do we know that she has "COMPLETELY" kicked her habit? It really hasn't been that long since they have broken up, and if she has been trying to get clean since, it takes a while longer than that. Nothing happens overnight. I don't believe that she is 100% cured, at least not yet.

SoulAlive said:

that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be allowed to see his child though, broke or with money.

SoulAlive said:

yes he should support them, yes he needs a job, but it all goes back to Whitney knowing all of this before hand. Even in any old marriage, if a man makes less than his wife but he has to pay child support and can't afford it, then "the powers who be" go after the wife for the money because they are married. Like i said before, she knew this was a possibility even before she married him, so that card can't really be pulled. As for her being his meal ticket, well...he suceeded at that for 14 years didn't he? It's not really his fault that she paid his way thoughout the marriage. she's to blame for that. if she was really bothered by her situation then, she should have divorced him a long time ago.

SoulAlive said:

but if it was the other way around and whitney sued bobby for money no one would bat an eyelid, she's hardly broke is she? bobby raised the kids with her as well did'nt he? they were a married for years

2903dad said:

exactly what i said.

A show without Shitney would be boring. I was a big fan of the show they did together and enjoyed every episode because she was on it. The reason I watched the show was to see her make a fool of herself. Also, I kept wanting to see Bobby get mad at her and cuss her ass out for all that she was worth.

Babydubistzuschnell said:

Bobby has admitted that he's never worked a day in his life and at this point he isn't about to. His best bet is to put together a band and tour the chitlin circuit as an oldies act. He could do gigs at State fairs, Hotels,Shopping Malls, Gambling Casinos, and Hood Festivals. He wouldn't make a whole lot of money but at least he'd have food, places to stay and some aging groupies to have fun with.

missfee said:

Oh,I agree with you there She shouldn't keep him from his child.That is wrong.I just don't think he really needs "spousal support".

ThePunisher said:

There are several ways that he could generate income.If he's homeless,it's because he's lazy and doesn't want to work.

vainandy said:

Will you stop dissing Whitney? She's not the person to blame for the decline of R&B in the late 80s.

missfee said:

She may not be 100% cured but I think she's on her way.She looks GREAT and is back in the studio recording a new album.Clive Davis is overseeing the project.She's gotten her life back in order.I honestly don't know if we can say the same about Bobby.

SoulAlive said:

well when i was listening to the radio on the way to work on Monday, the radio morning show mentioned something about how she was at some event this past weekend and word is she was "out of it", not don't know what that mean't but only two guesses come to mind, she was either tired, or high again.

missfee said:

consider this....

***During their marriage,Bobby cheated on Whitney several times.As recently as 2003,he was messing around with that "SuperHead" hip-hop video chick.

***It's been well-documented that Bobby got violent with Whitney on more than one occasion.

***She has bailed him out of jail a few times and even paid his child support payments for him.


after all this,she STILL owes him more money? She STILL must be his eternal meal ticket?

SoulAlive said:

umm, she's not innocent. She has admitted that she had been stepping outside of her marriage and cheated on Bobby as well. Yes i believe that he was violent with her, but I don't believe for a second that she didn't fight him back either. You aren't understanding the point i'm trying to make here. You keep repeatedly saying that Whitney has paid his child support payments and bailed him out of jail. So what....she was his wife. She was in the marriage with him, and I said it once, I said it twice and I will say it again SHE CHOSE TO MARRY HIM, so she shouldn't had been surprised when she had to do the things that she has done financially in the marriage. So if your wife got thrown into jail, you wouldn't bail her out? If your wife was down on her luck and you believed that she would do better that you wouldn't support her? C'mon now, let's be realistic here.

missfee said:

the point is....she did all those things for Bobby when they were married.That's fine and good.But they are now DIVORCED.Does she really have to keep giving him money? Is that really fair? When does it end?

"yes I believe that he was violent with her,but I don't believe for a second that she didn't fight him back either"


Well yeah....if a woman is getting her ass kicked by her man,she SHOULD fight back,wouldn't you agree?

SoulAlive said:

uhh, yeah, but not all of them fight back, WOULDN'T YOU AGREE?

I'm through discussing this with you, apparently, you will defend Whitney until hell freezes over like she is this innocent angel when she is far from it. I'm not really defending Bobby either, i'm just saying she married him, she made more money than him, so why not give him support. That's the price you pay when you marry someone who doesn't make as much as you...that is unless you have a pre-nup intact. If Bobby was the one with all the money and Whitney would want support, then you probably wouldn't be worried about Bobby "giving her an eternal meal ticket". I heard somewhere on the news that Bobby said that he nor Whitney kept a copy of a pre-nuputial agreement, but if a lawyer somewhere has an original and Bobby signed it, then hey, she won't end paying him a dime after all and that would be that.

And that's all I have to say about that.

bellanoche said:

Bobby is a child who needs financial support.

for the last time....if Bobby wants money,he can simply....

***Do another reality show---He could go to MTV and VH-1 and pitch the idea to them.These networks love to exploit dysfunctional,has-been celebrities.They love a trainwreck.Bobby's show could be about his attempt to make a career comeback,or his search to find another Sugar Mama to support his ass.Yeah,I know it sounds tacky and undignified,but Bobby has no dignity left anyway.Might as well make some money out of his sorry predictament,lol.

***appear on 'the Surreal Life'---hey,it's a paycheck

***Do a reunion tour with New Edition---but he would actually have to be focused and show up on-time.I once read an interview where Johnny Gill dissed Bobby,complaining that he was always late,drunk and high and very un-professional during their 1997 reuniuon tour.

***Do his own solo tour---like ThePunisher said,Bobby could put together a band and play State fairs,hotels,private events,shopping malls,or 80s R&B package tours.No,it won't be like his 1988 heyday where he played large arenas.He ruined his career,so he'll have to accept anyplace that will have him.

Real men work for a living.Bobby should try it sometime.

I really don't understand why he doesn't work. What does he want to do with the rest of his life? He doesn't seem to want to rejoin New Edition and yet he hasn't done much on his own. Even the guys from NE have jobs outside of the group.


Wendy Williams said he got $15,000 to appear at her party where he ended up performing but 36 hours later she implied he went through over half that money on illegals.