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Reply #180 posted 05/24/07 4:58pm

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THRILLER 25 PART SEVEN-PYT

P.Y.T.(Pretty Young Thing)


written by Quincy Jones and James Ingram

PYT was originally written by Michael and Greg Philliganes but was completely redone to a more uptempo
beat by Jones and Ingram


Sisters LaToya and Janet was two of the "pretty young thing" singing backup.


James Ingram and R&B legend Howard Hewitt also sang background vocals.

Michael with Quincy, James, Janet, the girls from Facts of Life, and others
charted at #10 on the Hot 100, #46 on the R&B charts and #11 in the UK

Michael sang part of the original demo during the Dangerous Tour rehearsals in Neverland back in 1992.

Michael also used the melody of the original demo to cowrite Backstreet's 1994 hit "Joy"

The sixth single from Thriller in the U.S. and the the seventh in the U.K.



michael and Brando cool

Hot 100: #10
R&B:#46
Sales:#10
Airplay:not charted
Canada:#24
UK:#11
Australia:#40
Austria:not charted
Belgium:#6
France:not charted
Holland:#4
Japan:?
South Africa:?
Germany:#21
Ireland:#4
Spain:?

Bboy87's commentary: Why did this song do so poorly on the R&B charts?! This is
one of the most popular cuts from the album!
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[Edited 5/26/07 15:41pm]
[Edited 5/30/07 16:21pm]
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Reply #181 posted 05/24/07 6:04pm

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Nice pics smile But yeah I don't know why PYT did so poorly on the R&B charts. I actually prefer the PYT Demo over the LP version though.
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

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Reply #182 posted 05/26/07 9:19am

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Nice pics smile Never seen them before
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Reply #183 posted 05/26/07 1:48pm

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Congrats for the excelent work!
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Reply #184 posted 05/26/07 3:37pm

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From where you got those Pics? Really amazing biggrin
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Reply #185 posted 05/26/07 3:40pm

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I got them from Michaeljacksonnewsonline and Steady-Laughing.com
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Reply #186 posted 05/28/07 10:47pm

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bboy87 said:

THRILLER 25-Beat It

BEAT IT

written by Michael Jackson


"Beat It" featured a legendary guitar solo, inspired by the song "Eruption" by Eddie Van Halen. Eddie was called by Quincy Jones to
guest on the song, but at first, Van Halen thought someone was prank calling him, before establishing proper communication
with Jones and recorded his part completely free of charge.

"I did it as a favor" said Van Halen, "I was a complete fool, according to the rest of the band, our manager,
and everyone else. I was not used. I knew what I was doing-I don't do something unless I want to do it.


Michael and Quincy took a skeleton version of the song to Eddie's home because they wanted him to solo
over the verse section. Quincy thought it was too rough so Steve Lukather, who also worked on the song, reduced
the distorted guitar sound.

It was the third single from "Thriller", following "Billie Jean". Frank Dileo, who as VP at Epic Records at the time
and who would go on to become Michael's manager, convinced everyone that Beat It should be released
whilst Billie Jean was still heading toward the #1 spot, and predicted both singles would be in the top 10 at the
same time.

On the Billboard Hot 100, Billie Jean was replaced by Dexy Midnight Runners' "Come On Eileen", which spent
a lone week at #1 before Michael reclaimed the top spot with "Beat It". Both singles occupied Top 5 positions
a feat only matched by the Bee Gees, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Ronstadt, and Donna Summers in the
1970s. Beat It was #1 on the Hot 100 for three weeks and the R&B chart for one week and peaked at #3 in the UK.


The short film, directed by Bob Giraldi, financed to the price of $140,000 by Michael himself when CBS got cold feet. The film was
shot in in East Los Angeles. One incident during the filming was a stabbing that occured just above Michael when he was
walking through the restaurant.
The cast included 18 professional dancers and four break dancers, choreographed by Michael Peters, and real life
gang members from the Crips and Bloods.

Rolling Stone voted it the #1 video in both Critics and Reader's Poll and later inducted into the Music
Video Producer's Hall of Fame.

Featured in the National Highwa Safety Commission's anti-drunk driving campaign in the United States and included on the
accompanying NHSC promo album. Michael was given a special award from President Ronald Reagan at the White House
for his support of the campaign.

Eddie joined The Jacksons on stage to perform Beat It during the Jacksons' Victory Tour on July 4, 1984 in Dallas.

Ranked #4 "World's Favorite Song" by UK coters in Sony Ericsson's global poll in 2005.

Hot 100:#1
R&B:#1
US Single Sales:#1
US Singles Airplay:#1
Canada:#1
UK:#3
Australia:#2
Austria:#6
Belgium:#1
France:#2
Holland:#1
Japan:#35
South Africa:#8
Germany:#2
Ireland:#2
Spain:#1

The single sold 4,250,000 copies



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Reply #187 posted 06/01/07 2:21pm

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THRILLER 25 PART EIGHT- THRILLER

THRILLER


written by Rod Temperton

Inspired by The Jacksons' 1980 single "This Place Hotel"
Early Versions titled "Starlight", "Starlight Sun" and "Give Me Some Starlight"
later changed after Michael told Rod that he wanted something that would appeal to kids.

Featured by legendary actor Vincent Price. Rod wrote the rap at the last minute. In fact he wrote the last verse in the cab on the
way to the studio!

The single, released in November 1983, debuted on the Hot 100 at #20, the highest new entry since John Lennon's 1971 single "Imagine". Later went to #4 to become
Thriller's 7th Top 10 single, a new record. Also peaked at #3 on the R&B charts and #10 in the UK


The 14 minute short film was released on December 2, 1983 and was directed by John Landis

Considered the greatest and most popular music video of all time, The 1983 short film cost $800,000(equal to $1.4 million in 2007)


The most expensive video until 1995 when Michael topped his his own record with "Scream" which cost $7 million. Also was
the longest video until Michael would continually top the record with 1987's "Bad", 1988's "Speed Demon" and "Smooth Criminal",
and now 1996's "Ghosts" which is 39 minutes

The video was almost shelved when church elders told Michael, then a Jehovah's Witness", to pull it. Michael would release
it but added a disclaimer at the beginning.

So it would qualify for an Academy Award, Thriller was debuted at a special theatrical screening, along with the film "Fantasia"

Thriller was the most popular video being played on MTV, being played as much as twice an hour. Amazing considering
the length.

The 1983 documentary "Making Michael Jackson's Thriller" was shown regularly on MTV and was the top selling music video
of all time until 1988's "Moonwalker"

Thriller was going to be performed during 1984's Victory Tour, but was pulled from the setlist. It has been performed
on 1987-89's Bad Tour, 1992-93 Dangerous Tour, and 1996-97 HIStory Tour

Hot 100-#4
R&B-#3
Single Sales-#1
Airplay-#6
Canada-#4
UK-#10
Australia-#4
Austria-?
Belgium-#6
France-#1
Holland-#14
Japan-#30
South America-?
Germany-#21
Ireland-#4
Spain-#1
Denmark-#3
Finland-#7
New Zealand-#6
Zimbabwe-#8

The single sold 3,706,400 copies
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Reply #188 posted 06/01/07 5:30pm

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It's obvious that Mike should have stoped plastic surgery in 1983, in 1984 he really starts to look weird, his nose is too thin, and he looks overall un-natural.

And I still don't know what kind of thing he has done to change his eyes, Marlon has done the same thing too.
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Reply #189 posted 06/01/07 6:29pm

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krayzie said:

It's obvious that Mike should have stoped plastic surgery in 1983, in 1984 he really starts to look weird, his nose is too thin, and he looks overall un-natural.

And I still don't know what kind of thing he has done to change his eyes, Marlon has done the same thing too.

Krayzie, what have I said about off topic posts?! Come here so I can make
an example outta you! stab
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Reply #190 posted 06/02/07 1:19am

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bboy87 said:

Part 2 will be on The Girl Is Mine. The most boring song on the LP, I know lol but I'm going in the order how the singles were released:

The Girl Is Mine
Billie Jean
Beat It
Wanna Be Startin Somethin
Human Nature
P.Y.T.
Thriller
Baby Be Mine(A side in some areas)
The Lady In My Life
The Victory Tour and Michaelmania '83-84


wow great thread! im not a huge mj fan but this is a cool thread. big ups cool

and i cant believe thriller was released near the end? omfg that is crazy i alwways thought it was the first single cause its "thriller". thats like if prince had put out -when doves cry- out at the very end of the pr era.
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Reply #191 posted 06/02/07 3:42am

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Excellent thread, bboy87! Kudos! And kudos again!

For all the flack that "The Girl Is Mine" gets, I've always thought "Thriller" was the album's weakest song. Not that I don't enjoy it, of course.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #192 posted 06/02/07 11:11am

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Much luv and respect to MJ; and the whole family
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Reply #193 posted 06/02/07 12:01pm

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krayzie said:

It's obvious that Mike should have stoped plastic surgery in 1983, in 1984 he really starts to look weird, his nose is too thin, and he looks overall un-natural.

And I still don't know what kind of thing he has done to change his eyes, Marlon has done the same thing too.


fishslap

can we have one thread that doesnt go into mj's face? damn.

back to the topic: so are you saying the girls of Facts of Life sang backup on PYT? confuse
Space for sale...
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Reply #194 posted 06/02/07 3:29pm

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this is the greatest thread evr!!!!!
"Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey
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Reply #195 posted 06/03/07 12:35pm

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Xavier23 said:

this is the greatest thread evr!!!!!



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Reply #196 posted 06/03/07 5:47pm

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Next up is "Baby Be Mine"

then

"The Lady In My Life"
"Michaelmania '83-84 and the Victory Tour"

then I'll be starting on "Bad 20" cool


and THAT'S IT lol
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Reply #197 posted 06/03/07 7:18pm

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bboy87 said:

Next up is "Baby Be Mine"

then

"The Lady In My Life"
"Michaelmania '83-84 and the Victory Tour"

then I'll be starting on "Bad 20" cool


and THAT'S IT lol

Where is the "Goin' Places" 30 Anniversary love at.

How about Marlon "Baby Tonight" 20 Ann thread.
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Reply #198 posted 06/03/07 9:19pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

Next up is "Baby Be Mine"

then

"The Lady In My Life"
"Michaelmania '83-84 and the Victory Tour"

then I'll be starting on "Bad 20" cool


and THAT'S IT lol

Where is the "Goin' Places" 30 Anniversary love at.

How about Marlon "Baby Tonight" 20 Ann thread.


I may do a Goin Places 30 thread on the Vault, but you're gonna have to help me lol

I ain't doin a thread on Baby Tonight.....but I'll do one for Tito lol
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Reply #199 posted 06/04/07 8:38am

alphastreet

as a huge mj fan I'm totally enjoying this topic

I was born smack in the middle of michaelmania when beat it was on top and just shy of motown 25

some of my early memories of early childhood when I was a toddler was watching some mj music videos and going nuts over them, like billie jean, beat it & DSTYGE. I remember being scared of thriller and not seeing the whole thing until I was much older, I even had a view master slide of it which was pretty cool. I saw captain eo at disney world and remember the bad video in kindergarten and everyone playing that song, but didn't believe it was him for years cause he didnt' look like thriller era mj, and I was in kindergarten then so I'm definitely not one of those fans who discovered him in the 90's when he had full blown vitiligo, though I did love him in the 90's as well and still love him like nobody's business. People my age got into him during dangerous, but I was in tune since I was in diapers though it wasn't till the mid 90's I rediscovered him and became a huge fan, before that I was just a casual listener of his music but thought he was a video artist until I discovered all of his catalogue
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Reply #200 posted 06/04/07 5:47pm

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This is a gret thread. Its nice to read all the background info on the Thriller album. Its a great album. One question: someone posted that they released the Thriller video before afilm so that it would qualify for an Academy Award. Did the video get nonminated for an Academy Award?

Love the thread and the comments and pics everyone is posting.
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Reply #201 posted 06/04/07 7:00pm

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I'll be posting a special org exclusive:

"THRILLER 25.2- The songs that didn't make the cut."

It'll include info on songs about:
Carousel
Niteline
She's Trouble
Hot Street
Fantasy
Got The Hots

and several other songs. I already tried but the post froze. I posted EVERYTHING but it went blank mad mad mad
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Reply #202 posted 06/04/07 9:13pm

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THRILLER 25.2- THE VAULT


-Behind The Mask
*written by Chris Mosdell and Ryuichi Sakamoto with additional lyrics by Michael
The original instrumental with choral background was recorded by the Yellow Magic Orchestra for the 1979 album "Solid State
Survivor"
Quincy Jones heard it, brought it to Michael's attention, who recorded it, added an extra melody line, and extra lyrics
Issues with royalties prevented the song from making the cut

-Carousel
*written by Michael Sembello
The song was originally included on the album until "Human Nature" replaced it.
Was later released on the 2001 Special Edition of Thriller, but was edited to nearly 2 minutes. Michael's original version
can be easily found online. Michael Sembello's version(including extra lyrics) can be heard on his official site.

-Fantasy
*written by Michael Jackson

-Got The Hots
*written by Michael with Quincy Jones
was to be included on the 2001 Special Edition of Thriller. Some fans were given copies of the first acetate by Sony, but
have not shared it:(

-Hot Street
*written by Rod Temperton
Quincy and Rod felt it wasn't strong enough although Michael liked the song.

-Slapstick
*the original version of Hot Street

-Learned My Lesson
*written by Michael in 1981. Two versions exist

-Love Never Felt So Good
*written by Michael with Paul Anka and Kathy Wakefield. Later recorded by Johnny Mathis in 1984

-Much Too Soon
*written by Michael in 1981

-Nightline
*written by Glen Ballard
Even though the song didn't make the album, Ballard would go on to co-write "Man In The Mirror" for 1987's Bad and "Keep
The Faith" for 1991's "Dangerous".
Nightline would later be recorded by the Pointer Sisters for the ORIGINAL pressing for their 1983 LP "Breakout"(replaced by
I'm So Excited"
also recorded by Randy Crawford

-Nymphette Lover
*written by Michael in 1981

-Rolling The Dice
*written by Michael in 1982

-Saved By The Bell
written by Michael and Jermaine Jackson for either Thriller, Dynamite, or the Victory album.

-She's Not A Girl
*written by Michael in 1982

-She's Trouble
*written by Terry Britten, Bill Livsey and Sue Shifrin
later recorded by Scott Baio for his 1983 LP "The Boys Are Out Tonight" and by Musical Youth for their 1983 LP
"Different Style". The single peaked at #65 on the Hot 100 and #25 on the R&B chart.

-The Sky Is The Limit
*written by Michael and Jermaine

-Starlight
*the original version of "Thriller"

Michael Boddicker was in the studio when Michael, Rod, and Quincy played the song back and began throwing ideas at each other
like changing certain chords to make the song sound darker. A day or so later, it song became what we know as "Thriller"

-What Do You Know
*written by Michael in 1981

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Reply #203 posted 06/05/07 2:16am

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bboy87 said:




eek Is that Courtney Love next to Cher? eek
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Reply #204 posted 06/05/07 3:27pm

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I remember when Thriller started blowing up, my mother was amazed because the album had been out for so long. IIRC, the first single I heard on the radio was, "The Girl Is Mine." Michael's onstage talent and MTV sent the album into hyperspace.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #205 posted 06/05/07 10:51pm

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namepeace said:

I remember when Thriller started blowing up, my mother was amazed because the album had been out for so long. IIRC, the first single I heard on the radio was, "The Girl Is Mine." Michael's onstage talent and MTV sent the album into hyperspace.


That was the beauty of Thriller, what happened was so unexpected by everyone with the exception of MJ if you believe his predictions. With subsequent albums the expectations were so much more greater by everyone; MJ expected Bad to outsell Thriller so did the record companies and the public. What Michael, the media and the record companie didn't understand at the time is that certain things only happen once in a life time.
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Reply #206 posted 06/05/07 11:07pm

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Reading the article from Spin Magazine in 1987 right before Bad was released, Michael had doubts about it. Epic knew it would sell well. The label was in a financial bind so they wanted it PRONTO lol
It was supposed to be released in January 1987. I'll talk about it more in the "Bad 20" thread wink
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Reply #207 posted 06/06/07 6:33am

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bboy87 said:

THRILLER 25.2- THE VAULT


-Behind The Mask
*written by Chris Mosdell and Ryuichi Sakamoto with additional lyrics by Michael
The original instrumental with choral background was recorded by the Yellow Magic Orchestra for the 1979 album "Solid State
Survivor"
Quincy Jones heard it, brought it to Michael's attention, who recorded it, added an extra melody line, and extra lyrics
Issues with royalties prevented the song from making the cut

-Carousel
*written by Michael Sembello
The song was originally included on the album until "Human Nature" replaced it.
Was later released on the 2001 Special Edition of Thriller, but was edited to nearly 2 minutes. Michael's original version
can be easily found online. Michael Sembello's version(including extra lyrics) can be heard on his official site.

-Fantasy
*written by Michael Jackson

-Got The Hots
*written by Michael with Quincy Jones
was to be included on the 2001 Special Edition of Thriller. Some fans were given copies of the first acetate by Sony, but
have not shared it:(

-Hot Street
*written by Rod Temperton
Quincy and Rod felt it wasn't strong enough although Michael liked the song.

-Slapstick
*the original version of Hot Street

-Learned My Lesson
*written by Michael in 1981. Two versions exist

-Love Never Felt So Good
*written by Michael with Paul Anka and Kathy Wakefield. Later recorded by Johnny Mathis in 1984

-Much Too Soon
*written by Michael in 1981

-Nightline
*written by Glen Ballard
Even though the song didn't make the album, Ballard would go on to co-write "Man In The Mirror" for 1987's Bad and "Keep
The Faith" for 1991's "Dangerous".
Nightline would later be recorded by the Pointer Sisters for the ORIGINAL pressing for their 1983 LP "Breakout"(replaced by
I'm So Excited"
also recorded by Randy Crawford

-Nymphette Lover
*written by Michael in 1981

-Rolling The Dice
*written by Michael in 1982

-Saved By The Bell
written by Michael and Jermaine Jackson for either Thriller, Dynamite, or the Victory album.

-She's Not A Girl
*written by Michael in 1982

-She's Trouble
*written by Terry Britten, Bill Livsey and Sue Shifrin
later recorded by Scott Baio for his 1983 LP "The Boys Are Out Tonight" and by Musical Youth for their 1983 LP
"Different Style". The single peaked at #65 on the Hot 100 and #25 on the R&B chart.

-The Sky Is The Limit
*written by Michael and Jermaine

-Starlight
*the original version of "Thriller"

Michael Boddicker was in the studio when Michael, Rod, and Quincy played the song back and began throwing ideas at each other
like changing certain chords to make the song sound darker. A day or so later, it song became what we know as "Thriller"

-What Do You Know
*written by Michael in 1981



Great Great Great Info eek eek eek eek ...Thanks BBoy

Am sure there are more outtakes and unreleased songs from the the thriller era.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
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Reply #208 posted 06/06/07 8:22am

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namepeace said:

I remember when Thriller started blowing up, my mother was amazed because the album had been out for so long. IIRC, the first single I heard on the radio was, "The Girl Is Mine." Michael's onstage talent and MTV sent the album into hyperspace.


That was the beauty of Thriller, what happened was so unexpected by everyone with the exception of MJ if you believe his predictions. With subsequent albums the expectations were so much more greater by everyone; MJ expected Bad to outsell Thriller so did the record companies and the public. What Michael, the media and the record companie didn't understand at the time is that certain things only happen once in a life time.
[Edited 6/5/07 22:55pm]


Yeah, the era was full of artists with megasellers and huge expectations for followups. Prince, Springsteen, Madonna, The Police, et cetera. But no one had bigger success and bigger expectations than MJ. And the expectations of Badwere as preposterous as the sales for Thriller, which are still bananas. TO THIS DAY.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #209 posted 06/06/07 10:49pm

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I love MICHAEL JACKSON..

this might sound bias..
but i still believe that michael is the biggest artist of all time...

because I only know maybe two or three elvis songs... and almost all of MJ songs..

Im sorry but if you ask the average person... under 35 about what songs do they know about elvis and michael.. Im pretty sure they would be able to tell you about MJ's music...


They still play MJ music in clubs and radio... I don't know about elvis...
Elvis is okay.. but mainly old people care about him...

I think michael touched more people then elvis....
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