bboy87 said:

Really?! It looks nothing like her.

No, it's not Kylie. She was born in 1968 so she would have only been 14-15 in 1983. It kinda looks like early Kylie though.
[Edited 5/20/07 1:44am]

She was born in 1968

I'm finishing the Human Nature part in a sec. Until then, here are some pictures to keep the thread alive

I'm finishing the Human Nature part in a sec. Until then, here are some pictures to keep the thread alive

bboy87 said:

The patches on his cheeks are so visible.
Thanks for the pictures. I haven´t seen some of them.

It could be. There are a couple of pictures from 1980-1985 that you can see his skin was blotchy and the makeup didn't always help. I'm suprised nobody noticed it especially at the 1986 Grammy Awards when he came out of hiding and was looking lighter AND chubby

Anyway, back to Thriller, Human Nature will be up soon
[Edited 5/22/07 10:35am]

bboy87 said:

red cheeks don't necessarily mean vitiligo, it looks more like an irritation on his skin, something that bleaching creams tend to cause. By the way many people noticed his red cheeks from time but, they put it down to makeup or irritation to the skin. But I guess if you are hardcore fan you try will try and convince yourself it was the vitiligo kicking in.

THRILLER 25 Part 6- Human Nature

HUMAN NATURE

written by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis

written about a young man who questions how he is treated by one part or all of society in general
Steve Pocaro of "Toto" fame recorded a rough demo on a cassette which fellow Toto bandmate David Paitch put
three songs on for Quincy Jones to listen to for possible inclusion on Thriller. Quincy didn't like Paitch's songs, but was
blown away by Porcaro's song, especially when the "Why, why" part came on
and the tune played to the line "Tell 'em that it's human nature". Jones mentions in the 2001 interview
on the Special Edition of Thriller that he "still gets goosebumps by talking about it".


Both agreed that this should be used in the album, replacing the track Carousel. It was at this point therefore,
that Jones contacted Bettis to help write the lyrics to the song

In his 1988 autobiography, "Moonwalk", Michael said that Human Nature was "music with wings".
When people asked him about the lyrics. Michael replied with "People often think the lyrics have some special personal significance...which often isn't true..
.it's important to reach people, to move them...
sometimes one can do this with the mosaic of the music melody arrangement and lyrics...sometimes it is the intellectual context of the lyrics"

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from Blogcritics.com:
Written by John Bettis (with background music by Toto) Michael Jackson's Human Nature is the cornerstone of his career. It speaks clearly to the heart of celebrity and it also speaks on the general theme of desire; it's also a damn good song.

The song itself is a cool combination of synthesizer with a nice quiet funky baseline underneath. The synth part lasts for about ten seconds, but I'm not even thinking about the instrument. Somehow, I get the image of a city covered in the just-arrived-night sky, with all the lights on and the cars racing through the streets.

Living under the glass bubble of his family, with an extra layer developed by his fame, Michael Jackson was an individual isolated from the rest of the world. When he decided to visit New York by himself, the very desire to leave his protective world started to come out. This surfaces in the first couple of verses of the song:

Looking out
Across the night-time
The city winks a sleepless eye
Hear her voice
Shake my window
Sweet seducing sighs

Get me out
Into the night-time
Four walls won't hold me tonight
If this town
Is just an apple
Then let me take a bite

When asked in the chorus "Why?, Why?" he answers with "Human Nature". "Why does he do me that way?" the lyric that follows, has been the cause of some speculation about his sexuality. I believe the line is more in reference to people surrounding him all the time voicing their frustrations with Michael's growing independence.

In the middle of the song, Michael goes outside into the world. As he walks the streets with cameras flashing their lights to take photos of him, he eyes a girl eyeing him. He asks for her because he wants to know someone other than the people in his own circle; preferably a girl, of whom Jackson has never had much chance to be with due to his situation.

At this point after the chorus returns for a second time, the song interrupts itself with the following:

Why, why, does he do me that way
I like livin' this way
I like lovin' this way

What happens next in the song is an unusual interpretation, but I believe its right. Michael, finally in reach of something real, makes love to it and becomes his own person; that's what I gathered at least when I listen to the instrumental after the second chorus. When the morning returns to New York, Michael speaks in a new confidence:

Looking out
Across the morning
The city's heart begins to beat
Reaching out
I touch her shoulder
I'm dreaming of the street

The rest of the song, as with The Beatles' Hey Jude, has a sing-along like feel to it. As opposed to speaking to one person, as Jude was intended for, Michael is speaking to everyone who ever asks why people do certain things. I've been asking that of late with my family as well as my own life.

I've never been as clear about a song as I have been with this one. Call it long nights of staying up late or a lack of a social life, but this song is very deep without being overly cryptic. If my analysis doesn't answer your questions, go listen to it anyway; it's Track 7 on the Thriller album.

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Michael has performed Human Nature on the 1984 Victory Tour, 1987-89 Bad Tour, 1992-93 Dangerous Tour, and once in
Brunei during th 1996-97 HIStory Tour

Wasn't released in the UK. Charted at #7 on the Hot 100 and #27 on the R&B chart.

Hot 100:#7
R&B:27
Singles Sales:#2
Airplay:?
Canada:#17
UK:not released
Australia:#64
Austria:?
Belgium:#12
France:?
Holland:#11
Japan:?
South Africa#?
Germany:#64
Ireland:?
Spain:?

The single sold 1,050,000 copies
[Edited 5/22/07 12:32pm]

Speaking of "Thriller":


British music mogul SIMON COWELL is planning to give MICHAEL JACKSON a huge career boost by creating a massive tribute show based on the pop superstar's epic album THRILLER. The American Idol and Pop Idol star is secretly working on a project to honour the 25th anniversary of the classic album in 2008. He says, "We're planning something with the record label, maybe for Thriller, but we'll see what happens - a big, big tribute."

http://www.contactmusic.c...te_1031778

PS: Thriller has sold over 100 million copies? Crikey!

bboy87 said:

red cheeks don't necessarily mean vitiligo, it looks more like an irritation on his skin, something that bleaching creams tend to cause. By the way many people noticed his red cheeks from time but, they put it down to makeup or irritation to the skin. But I guess if you are hardcore fan you try will try and convince yourself it was the vitiligo kicking in.

whatsgoingon said:

OF course, that´s why he continued bleaching his skin when he found out that his skin gets obviously so irritated by it.

OF course, that´s why he continued bleaching his skin when he found out that his skin gets obviously so irritated by it.

dag said:

That's sad, because that was truly MJ at his peak, when the commercial acclaim matched the critical acclaim. So for those of you who were too young, not alive or lived in regimes that did not allow you to experience Thriller it's ashame, because you miss something that was truely special.

It was completely different from the Bad and Dangerous eras, which were being hyped up even before the albums were release creating big expectations and in the end many people were disappointed with the product. Thriller was one surprise after another. It was like seeing something take on a life of it's own, with a performance here, a video here. It was a rollercoaster ride that I will remember forever.

Since music is crappy these days, it'll continue to be a dream

bboy87 said:

red cheeks don't necessarily mean vitiligo, it looks more like an irritation on his skin, something that bleaching creams tend to cause. By the way many people noticed his red cheeks from time but, they put it down to makeup or irritation to the skin. But I guess if you are hardcore fan you try will try and convince yourself it was the vitiligo kicking in.

Next part will be about P.Y.T.

And yall better not get off topic! Don't make me shank some of you!

He made that lady's night