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On a related note... I've just heard "Falling in love" from the Off The Wall record for the first time in years and it totally floored me. They just don't make music like that these days. :waves stick in the air: | |
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papaaisaway said: CRACKING THREAD
On a related note... I've just heard "Falling in love" from the Off The Wall record for the first time in years and it totally floored me. They just don't make music like that these days. :waves stick in the air: I know it's a classic. I am glad in a way songs like that and "I can't Help it", "Lady in My Life" and much of the stuff he did with the Jacksons were never release or didn't do well commercially, because those are the songs that have gone on to be hidden gems. These are the types of songs you only hear at night on Quiet Storm radio or at clubs during the "rare groove "hour. They are wonderful songs hidden away and really illustrate the true essence of what Michael use to be about. | |
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whatsgoingon said: papaaisaway said: CRACKING THREAD
On a related note... I've just heard "Falling in love" from the Off The Wall record for the first time in years and it totally floored me. They just don't make music like that these days. :waves stick in the air: I know it's a classic. I am glad in a way songs like that and "I can't Help it", "Lady in My Life" and much of the stuff he did with the Jacksons were never release or didn't do well commercially, because those are the songs that have gone on to be hidden gems. These are the types of songs you only hear at night on Quiet Storm radio or at clubs during the "rare groove "hour. They are wonderful songs hidden away and really illustrate the true essence of what Michael use to be about. The only word I don´t agree with. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Once again, this is a great thread and HUGE PROPS go to BBoy for putting all of this up. Like someone else said on here, I really enjoy and appreciate reading about the composition and recording of great music and this thread has been soooo insightful. I'm having a busy day at work but it's gonna be a long day because I keep taking time out to check this thread for more updates and info. This makes me want to go to my mom's attic, did through my stuff, and find my old "Michael vs. Prince" issue of Right On!
Also, great looking out, BBoy, with these pictures. Some of these are pics that I haven't seen in 25 years, like the 45 cover of "The Girl Is Mine". Really good stuff, man. Tito, pass me some tissue... | |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: Excellent thread!
 Here's some more info/trivia about the album.Bboy87,feel free to correct me if I'm wrong 
***The song "Thriller" was originally titled "Starlight Love".I have a feeling that Michael asked Rod Temperton to come up with lyrics about a night of horror.As we all know,Michael was really into scary movies,monsters,ghosts,etc. ***It's been reported that Rod offered Michael the song "Mystery" for 'Thriller' but it was left off the album.In 1983,it was recorded by The Manhattan Transfer.In 1986,it was recorded by Anita Baker for her 'Rapture' album. ***In early 1982,Quincy was producing an album for Donna Summer,which was released in August.'Thriller' came out several months later and if you listen to both albums,you will notice some similarities.Both albums feature a loud rock song which features a guitar solo by a prominent rock musician ("Protection" on Donna's album features guitar by Bruce Springsteen while "Beat It" on Michael's album features a guitar solo by Eddie Van Halen).The first single from Donna's album,"Love Is In Control (Finger On The Trigger)",is similiar to "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" on Michael's album.Both albums end with a ballad that's tailor-made for Quiet Storm radio ("Lush Life" on Donna's album,"The Lady In My Life" on Michael's album). ***isn't it amazing that Michael didn't do videos for all the singles? Imagine the videos he could have done for hits like "Wanna Be Startin Something","Human Nature" and "P.Y.T". ***does anyone else think it's funny that the album includes a song called "Baby Be Mine" that is followed by a song called "The Girl Is Mine"?  Everything is accurate except about Starlight. The song went from "Give Me Some Starlight" to "Starlight Sun" then "Starlight" to "Thriller" I read one review saying that Wanna Be Startin Somethin was similar to Don't Stop Til You Get Enough....well there's a reason: Wanna Be Startin Somethin was originally intended for Off The Wall. A couple of Michael's songs are reused(kinda like how Prince does): -Wanna Be Startin Somethin-originally written for Off The Wall -Be Not Always-written in 1979(OTW era), released on Victory in 1984 -Liberian Girl-originally intended for Victory as "Pyramid Girl", released on Bad in 1987 -half of the Dangerous album was intended for the unreleased "Decade" album(In The Closet, Heal The World, Black or White, Who Is It, Will You Be There, Gone Too Soon) -The original version of Black or White was recorded for Bad -Little Susie from 1995's HIStory was originally written in 1979. -Blood on The Dancefloor and Superfly Sister were recorded for Dangerous -Morphine and Is It Scary were intended for HIStory  I didn´t know that! Damn, I have no time these days to spend more time here and read all this thoroughly."When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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bboy87 said: whatsgoingon said: That's because fans on those boards are more into the "King of Pop". Their favourite albums are Bad, Dangerous and History. There into Michael "Heal The World" Jackson, as oppose to Michael Jackson, the handsome, brown-skinned brotha who had a whole load of funk.!! [Edited 5/11/07 9:57am] You got that right! Some fans think of him as Michael Jackson- the dancer. His music is more important to me. It changed alot of people's lives, including mine  .I've always felt whatever happens, in appearance or sound, he'll always be the same Michael Jackson to me. He's just put too much pressure on himself throughout the years to be perfect, whereas I've enjoyed seeing the more natural side of him. Remember when he got pissed about the surgery question in Living With Michael Jackson? He had that "don't fuck with me, bitch" look The Poppa Joe in him started showing I looooove that side of MJ!"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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bboy87 said: The Decade album was a greatest hits compilation that was supposed to be released in December 1989 or early 1990. The tracklisting was:
Don't Stop Til You Get Enough Rock With You Off The Wall She's Out Of My Life Can You Feel It This Place Hotel The Girl Is Mine Billie Jean Beat It Thriller Wanna Be Startin Somethin Human Nature PYT State of Shock Someone In The Dark Bad The Way You Make Me Feel Another Part of Me Man In The Mirror I Just Can't Stop Loving You Dirty Diana Smooth Criminal Leave Me Alone Come Together It was also include a couple new songs: Black or White Gone Too Soon Who Is It Heal The World I'll Be There(1989 version) Never Can Say Goodbye there was also a rumor it also included a cover of Sly and The Family Stone's "Family Affair" The project was cancelled when Michael decided to go ahead a record a full new album thanks 4 the info!  | |
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dag said: bboy87 said: Everything is accurate except about Starlight. The song went from "Give Me Some Starlight" to "Starlight Sun" then "Starlight" to "Thriller" I read one review saying that Wanna Be Startin Somethin was similar to Don't Stop Til You Get Enough....well there's a reason: Wanna Be Startin Somethin was originally intended for Off The Wall. A couple of Michael's songs are reused(kinda like how Prince does): -Wanna Be Startin Somethin-originally written for Off The Wall -Be Not Always-written in 1979(OTW era), released on Victory in 1984 -Liberian Girl-originally intended for Victory as "Pyramid Girl", released on Bad in 1987 -half of the Dangerous album was intended for the unreleased "Decade" album(In The Closet, Heal The World, Black or White, Who Is It, Will You Be There, Gone Too Soon) -The original version of Black or White was recorded for Bad -Little Susie from 1995's HIStory was originally written in 1979. -Blood on The Dancefloor and Superfly Sister were recorded for Dangerous -Morphine and Is It Scary were intended for HIStory I didn´t know that! Damn, I have no time these days to spend more time here and read all this thoroughly.GO TO AMAZON AND ORDER "Michael Jackson:For The Record" NOW!!!!! You'll find out alot.....and it has my name in the "thank yous" "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: dag said: I didn´t know that! Damn, I have no time these days to spend more time here and read all this thoroughly.GO TO AMAZON AND ORDER "Michael Jackson:For The Record" NOW!!!!! You'll find out alot.....and it has my name in the "thank yous" Really? Cool! I've been meaning to get that book for a while now but haven't been able to find it at any of the Barnes & Nobles I went too. Oh well, I guess i'll have to order it online. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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It was released independently so it's gonna be hard to find it at B&N(one of my favorite stores!  ). Amazon has it and the authors' site. I think barnesandnoble.com has it on their site"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: here was th complete chart run:
THRILLER HP: 1(37) Wks: 123 25.12.82: 11-11-9-8-5-5-5-5-4-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-1-2-2-2- 2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-4-3-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-4-4-3-3-3-6-8-8-8-8-12-14-20-20-29- 31-31-33-34-39-39-51-56-55-56-78-77-89-105-106-102-110-105-102-94-94-91-84-84-82-101- 111-112-125-123-151-146-168-173-200-195-199 11.12.04: 187 So Epic Records had to wait 10 weeks for Thriller to become the #1 album? Interesting. | |
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papaaisaway said: CRACKING THREAD
On a related note... I've just heard "Falling in love" from the Off The Wall record for the first time in years and it totally floored me. They just don't make music like that these days. :waves stick in the air: I LOVE THAT SONG!!  'Off The Wall' is one of those albums where every song is excellent.All of those songs could have been singles."It's The Falling In Love" is such an emotional song...those lyrics are deep!
don't wanna lie down in a bed full of lies and yet my mind is saying come and do me sizzling!! | |
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bboy87 said: dag said: I didn´t know that! Damn, I have no time these days to spend more time here and read all this thoroughly.GO TO AMAZON AND ORDER "Michael Jackson:For The Record" NOW!!!!! You'll find out alot.....and it has my name in the "thank yous" I am definately gonna get it as soon as I have some money. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Does anyone happen to have this book?
Michael Jackson - Chosen To Entertain: A collection of Never Seen Photos, Rare Interviews and Facts Is it any good? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I bought something from MJ today...expect more about this in a few hours! Let's say it a song co-written by Thicke | |
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MikeMatronik said: I bought something from MJ today...expect more about this in a few hours! Let's say it a song co-written by Thicke
What do you mean "bought"? I want it too!!! "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: MikeMatronik said: I bought something from MJ today...expect more about this in a few hours! Let's say it a song co-written by Thicke
What do you mean "bought"? I want it too!!! Fall Again [Demo] was co-written by Thicke I bought this:  | |
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Good choice! I have the US version that's white and gold. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Good choice! I have the US version that's white and gold.
I'm really really really really happy with it! I've been planning to buy it since it was released. | |
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MikeMatronik said: bboy87 said: Good choice! I have the US version that's white and gold.
I'm really really really really happy with it! I've been planning to buy it since it was released. Hey Mike, have u seen THIS?:  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: MikeMatronik said: I'm really really really really happy with it! I've been planning to buy it since it was released. Hey Mike, have u seen THIS?: Who's that girl? | |
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She's from that cheesy suzuki commercial MJ did back in the early 80's.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...PLUVLKvSFk "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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It's KYLIE MINOGUE "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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vainandy said: While we are talking about the 25th Anniversary of "Thriller" and "1999", my favorite memory of the two albums is the time my sister and I went to the carnival. We went to one of the game booths where you throw a dart, hit a balloon, and win a prize. The prizes were those mirrors that had a picture of an album cover on it. Anybody remember those? My sister got a "Thriller" mirror and I got a "1999" mirror that same day. Two years later, I got a "Purple Rain" mirror.
My sister's "Thriller" mirror got broke the same year she got it when she was fighting with my other sister. I still have both my Prince mirrors to this very day.....growing up, I kept all my shit at my grandmother's house so those evil siblings of mine couldn't fuck with it when they got mad at me. Anything with Prince on it seemed cool. even those mirrors. I never thought Prince could sell out or be uncool. He was punk funk. Those mirrors were at my fair too! ______________________________________________
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bboy87 said: It's KYLIE MINOGUE
Really?! It looks nothing like her. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ
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GREATEST THREAD EVER !!! PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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THRILLER 25-Part 5: Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
WANNA BE STARTIN' SOMETHIN' 
written by Michael Jackson in 1978 or 1979 Inspired by media pressure Michael faced at the time and would continue to face to this day. The song was also inspired by family problems between his sisters in law over jealousy towards older sister LaToya. 
Wanna Be Startin Somethin was the first song written for Thriller. "It's a song which I had written when we were recording Off The Wall," said Michael, who wouldn't submit the song to Quincy until the Thriller/Starlight sessions. It's a song that disappointed Michael, songwriting-wise. "Songwriting is a very frustrating art form," says Michael in a 1999 TV Guide interview, "You have to get on tape exactly what's playing in your head. When I hear it up here(pointing to his head),it's wonderful- then I have to transcribe that on tape." 
The original demo sounds very similar to the released version. The background vocals from the demo were later used on the released version. 
Wanna Be Startin Somethin shot to #5 on the Billboard Hot 100 and R&B charts after the airing of Michael's performance of "Billie Jean" during the Motown 25 special. 
Peaked at #5 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts and #8 in the UK. 
The song chosen to open The Jacksons' Victory Tour in 1984 and Michael's BAD World Tour in 1987-1989. Also performed during the 1992-93 Dangerous World Tour and 1996-97 HIStory World Tour 
Wanna Be Startin Somethin remains one of Michael's biggest dance cuts. Hot 100:#5 R&B:#5 Singles Sales:#2 Airplay:#6 Canada:#11 UK:#8 Australia:25 Austria:not charted Belgium:#3 France:#20 Holland:#3 Japan:#69 South Africa:not charted Germany:#16 Ireland:not charted Spain:#14 The single sold 1,800,000 copies "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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A bboy, you gonna do a 30th Anniversary on the Jacksons 'Goin Places' LP. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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bboy87 said:
I love this picture!  | |
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