CalhounSq said: Janfriend said: You didn't want to know more, you wanted to get personal. That wasn't necessary to discuss the topic of the song, because it really has nothing to do with it. Someone else started it in post# 63 and you chimed in on it in #78. It was uncalled for, whether you agree with it or not, and it continued. I disagree with people here, but I don't personally attack them to prove my point or have fun at their expense Jan, you are such a piece of fucking work - now we're quoting post #'s I DID genuinely want to know more, even IN post 78 (I can't believe I have to explain this) - I think the use of the LOL emoticon is confusing you. But thanks for wiping out everything I said prior to that as if getting personal with you was my goal here (if it was I could have said some snide shit right off the bat, yet I asked a question instead). I didn't downright start What is there to get? I don't get what having a sense of humor has to with it. I didn't get that memo that this was a lighthearted conversation. No one said what they said in kindness. No one said they didn't mean any of their puns. As far as the original "daddy issues" comment being uncalled for, I'm sure YOU think so but I really don't. Mostly b/c it almost didn't need to be said - it's kind of obvious that there's SOMETHING going on with you for it to piss you off so - it's just human nature to have some underlying thing that effects us throughout our lives (or at least until we deal with them, if we even acknowledge them) that stem from some event/person/situation. "daddy issues" seemed mostly likely w/ you - I didn't say it first but I certainly THOUGHT it based on what you said, agreed with it & was dying to see if you'd cop to it (hence the
I do believe I said the song didn't piss me off that as much as people making the remarks they made. Perhaps I'm not being clear. You can have whatever opinion you want, however it is wrong to try to play psychotherapist and evaluate someone as a person based on their feelings about a song. No I don't have to like or personally approve responses. You don't see the difference between a respectable debate and maliciousness? Your feelings about the song do indeed stem from some "issues" as do everyone elses - be it daddy issues, mommy issues, sexuality issues, family issues, relationship issues, society issues, WHATEVER - this is what I believe. So when you say it has "nothing to do with the song" it's just not true - your overwhelmingly negative reaction to a pretty positive (as most people see it, damn conformists!) song is being shaped by SOMETHING in your life. Just because you don't see the connection doesn't mean there isn't a connection there. I know, I know: you know yourself, I don't know you, blah blah blah. But I've formed an opinion - deal with it.
So, everyone's feelings about every song they hear stem from "issues."? My reaction to the song (in my third post) was not overwhelming. I wasn't the only one who saw it that way, but you forgot that. Based on your assumption, every song I don't like is because I was shaped by something in my life? Wow. I'll think about that next time I hear "Laffy Taffy." What could have possibly happened in my life to shape my reaction to this piece of shit. Maybe you should post on an imaginary message board so there'll be no follow-ups or replies b/c you don't seem to be handling this whole "public forum" thing well. By the way, I'm most definitely making fun of you in that last sentence - will you try to get THIS thread shut down now? Is my last question valid or invalid?
I have no problem being part of a public forum, but honeslty, if someone was speaking to to calmly, face to face, having a serious conversation with you, would you act out all of those comments and emoticons? That's not very civil. Why would I want to get this thread shut down? It's not even my thread. I don;t know what that's about. But I do applaud you for not personally attacking people to get your point across
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Rhondab said: CalhounSq said: Jan, you are such a piece of fucking work - now we're quoting post #'s I DID genuinely want to know more, even IN post 78 (I can't believe I have to explain this) - I think the use of the LOL emoticon is confusing you. But thanks for wiping out everything I said prior to that as if getting personal with you was my goal here (if it was I could have said some snide shit right off the bat, yet I asked a question instead). I didn't downright start As far as the original "daddy issues" comment being uncalled for, I'm sure YOU think so but I really don't. Mostly b/c it almost didn't need to be said - it's kind of obvious that there's SOMETHING going on with you for it to piss you off so - it's just human nature to have some underlying thing that effects us throughout our lives (or at least until we deal with them, if we even acknowledge them) that stem from some event/person/situation. "daddy issues" seemed mostly likely w/ you - I didn't say it first but I certainly THOUGHT it based on what you said, agreed with it & was dying to see if you'd cop to it (hence the Your feelings about the song do indeed stem from some "issues" as do everyone elses - be it daddy issues, mommy issues, sexuality issues, family issues, relationship issues, society issues, WHATEVER - this is what I believe. So when you say it has "nothing to do with the song" it's just not true - your overwhelmingly negative reaction to a pretty positive (as most people see it, damn conformists!) song is being shaped by SOMETHING in your life. Just because you don't see the connection doesn't mean there isn't a connection there. I know, I know: you know yourself, I don't know you, blah blah blah. But I've formed an opinion - deal with it. Maybe you should post on an imaginary message board so there'll be no follow-ups or replies b/c you don't seem to be handling this whole "public forum" thing well. By the way, I'm most definitely making fun of you in that last sentence - will you try to get THIS thread shut down now? Is my last question valid or invalid? But I do applaud you for not personally attacking people to get your point across I'm pretty sure I want this thread to last forever . [Edited 5/18/07 3:16am] Ok its official, Calhoun is an idiot Ok, I was going send out an orgnote but whatever. I think I'm with Calhoun that it just got to a point when this just began tp get ridiculuous and FUNNY. What you don't seem to understand that the joke can be at your expense AND you can laugh at it. The fact that there was a conversation about the color green, soap operas and whatever else on a John Mayer thread is FUNNY!!! Supa's BS is the funniest to me and that's why I loveeeee him. There is absolutely no way in hell a person can laugh at a joke at their expense if they're not in on the joke I've enjoyed this thread.
We all have are stuff and its ok laugh and smile at ya stuff. No one is playing the victim. Facts are facts. People were directly mean-spirited towards me over an opinion. It wasn't a personal opinion about an individual, just an opinion. Maybe you don't believe in the Golden Rule theory, but I do. It's really not appropriate for someone to use another thread to try to make a point against someone. You did that earlier in this thread when you mentioned "other threads." You truly have no clue why that thread was deleted in the first place. I'm completely comfortable in my skin. I could say that based on what you post in p&r, you come across as a woman of faith and someone who tries to live god-like (I completely accept if I wrong on that assumption). However, your attitude and remarks towards me in this thread would tell me the opposite. I really don't give a shit what Robin Power does and doesn't do [Edited 5/18/07 20:15pm] | |
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Janfriend said:[quote] Rhondab said: There is absolutely no way in hell a person can laugh at a joke at their expense if they're not in on the joke I've enjoyed this thread.
We all have are stuff and its ok laugh and smile at ya stuff. No one is playing the victim. Facts are facts. People were directly mean-spirited towards me over an opinion. It wasn't a personal opinion about an individual, just an opinion. Maybe you don't believe in the Golden Rule theory, but I do. It's really not appropriate for someone to use another thread to try to make a point against someone. You did that earlier in this thread when you mentioned "other threads." You truly have no clue why that thread was deleted in the first place. I'm completely comfortable in my skin. I could say that based on what you post in p&r, you come across as a woman of faith and someone who tries to live god-like (I completely accept if I wrong on that assumption). However, your attitude and remarks towards me in this thread would tell me the opposite. I really don't give a shit what Robin Power does and doesn't do [Edited 5/18/07 20:15pm] (sigh) If you recalled in the other thread that you had deleted, I said basically to do you but also be prepared to handle critics when you post a pic. I think that was some good ole fashion advice. You are playing victim because its not like you've not had anything to say about me and my points of view, how I need to be right, blah, blah, blah I'm not passive aggressive as you appear to be. Its very passive aggressive to question me being "a woman of faith" but then say "Oh but pardon me if I have it wrong". :LOL: Girl put it out there. If you think I'm acting like a heathen, say that. I don't have an issue with it. When I'm convicted, i apologize. I frankly don't feel that way about THIS thread at all. I think you decided to sit in the corner and pout The topic (fathers and daughters) is a good topic but we've already said we don't agree right? I've had these very same sort of debates in p&r with ppl with the same tone and my faith has nothing to do with it and I bet you don't see that as being some wack move on your part huh? Nah..I'm sure you don't. Being able to laugh at yourself or being able to see humor in something even when its at your expense is a sign of security. Playin' the dozens and all of that stuff....just fun stuff that may even have some truth to it. BUT I will respect that this isn't you. No joking with Jan. I'll respect that boundary as long as you know others may not (lookin' at Cal I don't see the "evil" in things I've said on this thread to you but maybe to Gemini If you're going to play then play, if not, take your ball and go home. But check this: you analyzed my posts and deem them "unchristian-like" in the same manner others analyzed your posts and deemed you having some daddy issues. do you see how that works? [Edited 5/19/07 7:59am] | |
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Rhondab said: Janfriend said: No one is playing the victim. Facts are facts. People were directly mean-spirited towards me over an opinion. It wasn't a personal opinion about an individual, just an opinion. Maybe you don't believe in the Golden Rule theory, but I do. It's really not appropriate for someone to use another thread to try to make a point against someone. You did that earlier in this thread when you mentioned "other threads." You truly have no clue why that thread was deleted in the first place. I'm completely comfortable in my skin. I could say that based on what you post in p&r, you come across as a woman of faith and someone who tries to live god-like (I completely accept if I wrong on that assumption). However, your attitude and remarks towards me in this thread would tell me the opposite. I really don't give a shit what Robin Power does and doesn't do [Edited 5/18/07 20:15pm] (sigh) If you recalled in the other thread that you had deleted, I said basically to do you but also be prepared to handle critics when you post a pic. I think that was some good ole fashion advice. You are playing victim because its not like you've not had anything to say about me and my points of view, how I need to be right, blah, blah, blah I'm not passive aggressive as you appear to be. Its very passive aggressive to question me being "a woman of faith" but then say "Oh but pardon me if I have it wrong". :LOL: Girl put it out there. If you think I'm acting like a heathen, say that. I don't have an issue with it. When I'm convicted, i apologize. I frankly don't feel that way about THIS thread at all. I think you decided to sit in the corner and pout The topic (fathers and daughters) is a good topic but we've already said we don't agree right? I've had these very same sort of debates in p&r with ppl with the same tone and my faith has nothing to do with it and I bet you don't see that as being some wack move on your part huh? Nah..I'm sure you don't. Being able to laugh at yourself or being able to see humor in something even when its at your expense is a sign of security. Playin' the dozens and all of that stuff....just fun stuff that may even have some truth to it. BUT I will respect that this isn't you. No joking with Jan. I'll respect that boundary as long as you know others may not (lookin' at Cal I don't see the "evil" in things I've said on this thread to you but maybe to Gemini If you're going to play then play, if not, take your ball and go home. But check this: you analyzed my posts and deem them "unchristian-like" in the same manner others analyzed your posts and deemed you having some daddy issues. do you see how that works? Oh damn, I got nothin' better than that so I'mma just quote THIS I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Janfriend said: I have no problem being part of a public forum, but honeslty, if someone was speaking to to calmly, face to face, having a serious conversation with you, would you act out all of those comments and emoticons? That's not very civil.
Yea, I pretty much respond like this in person So, everyone's feelings about every song they hear stem from "issues."? My reaction to the song (in my third post) was not overwhelming. I wasn't the only one who saw it that way, but you forgot that. Based on your assumption, every song I don't like is because I was shaped by something in my life? Wow. I'll think about that next time I hear "Laffy Taffy." What could have possibly happened in my life to shape my reaction to this piece of shit.
Okay, maybe you DO have a bit of a sense of humor 'cause this Laffy Taffy shit is FUNNY! So yea, there are things in my background that inform those opinions. & I'm sure there are people who aren't Black or female who dislike that song & they have their reasons & that's cool - maybe their reasons come from somewhere, maybe they don't but it's entirely possible that there are concrete reasons for that dislike. I don't just dislike Britney Spears b/c her "music" is shitty, her success illustrates a mountain of ills in American society. Some people may read that & think I'm as crazy as you sound on this thread Anyway, I gotta go get ready for Princey tonight I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Rhondab said: Janfriend said: No one is playing the victim. Facts are facts. People were directly mean-spirited towards me over an opinion. It wasn't a personal opinion about an individual, just an opinion. Maybe you don't believe in the Golden Rule theory, but I do. It's really not appropriate for someone to use another thread to try to make a point against someone. You did that earlier in this thread when you mentioned "other threads." You truly have no clue why that thread was deleted in the first place. I'm completely comfortable in my skin. I could say that based on what you post in p&r, you come across as a woman of faith and someone who tries to live god-like (I completely accept if I wrong on that assumption). However, your attitude and remarks towards me in this thread would tell me the opposite. I really don't give a shit what Robin Power does and doesn't do [Edited 5/18/07 20:15pm] (sigh) If you recalled in the other thread that you had deleted, I said basically to do you but also be prepared to handle critics when you post a pic. I think that was some good ole fashion advice. You are playing victim because its not like you've not had anything to say about me and my points of view, how I need to be right, blah, blah, blah I'm not passive aggressive as you appear to be. Its very passive aggressive to question me being "a woman of faith" but then say "Oh but pardon me if I have it wrong". :LOL: Girl put it out there. If you think I'm acting like a heathen, say that. I don't have an issue with it. When I'm convicted, i apologize. I frankly don't feel that way about THIS thread at all. I think you decided to sit in the corner and pout The topic (fathers and daughters) is a good topic but we've already said we don't agree right? I've had these very same sort of debates in p&r with ppl with the same tone and my faith has nothing to do with it and I bet you don't see that as being some wack move on your part huh? Nah..I'm sure you don't. Being able to laugh at yourself or being able to see humor in something even when its at your expense is a sign of security. Playin' the dozens and all of that stuff....just fun stuff that may even have some truth to it. BUT I will respect that this isn't you. No joking with Jan. I'll respect that boundary as long as you know others may not (lookin' at Cal I don't see the "evil" in things I've said on this thread to you but maybe to Gemini If you're going to play then play, if not, take your ball and go home. But check this: you analyzed my posts and deem them "unchristian-like" in the same manner others analyzed your posts and deemed you having some daddy issues. do you see how that works? [Edited 5/19/07 7:59am] No, I threw back at you what you've been throwing at me. See how that works? I don't say anything about someone unless they do it to me first. The reason for me saying I may have it wrong is because I completely accept that fact that I do not know you Once again, you have no clue why that thread was deleted. You and some others assumed something about me that wasn't true and I decided not to deal with the madness. Being able to laugh at yourself or being able to see humor in something even when its at your expense is a sign of security. Playin' the dozens and all of that stuff....just fun stuff that may even have some truth to it. BUT I will respect that this isn't you. No joking with Jan. I'll respect that boundary as long as you know others may not (lookin' at Cal ).
That's just an excuse to allow yourself to make fun of other people. Unless the person starts the jokes about themself, it is asinine to think you can make fun of someone and they be ok with it. That has nothing to do with security [Edited 5/19/07 16:48pm] | |
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CalhounSq said: Janfriend said: I have no problem being part of a public forum, but honeslty, if someone was speaking to to calmly, face to face, having a serious conversation with you, would you act out all of those comments and emoticons? That's not very civil.
Yea, I pretty much respond like this in person So, everyone's feelings about every song they hear stem from "issues."? My reaction to the song (in my third post) was not overwhelming. I wasn't the only one who saw it that way, but you forgot that. Based on your assumption, every song I don't like is because I was shaped by something in my life? Wow. I'll think about that next time I hear "Laffy Taffy." What could have possibly happened in my life to shape my reaction to this piece of shit.
Okay, maybe you DO have a bit of a sense of humor 'cause this Laffy Taffy shit is FUNNY! So yea, there are things in my background that inform those opinions. & I'm sure there are people who aren't Black or female who dislike that song & they have their reasons & that's cool - maybe their reasons come from somewhere, maybe they don't but it's entirely possible that there are concrete reasons for that dislike. I don't just dislike Britney Spears b/c her "music" is shitty, her success illustrates a mountain of ills in American society. Some people may read that & think I'm as crazy as you sound on this thread Anyway, I gotta go get ready for Princey tonight I don't sound crazy on this thread. Nothing I said was crazy. You're reactions to it have been a little crazy. Why can't "Laffy Taffy" just be a shitty song? There's nothing deep behind wack ass music, with wack ass melody and wack ass lyrics. The shit is just wack | |
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Janfriend said:[quote] Rhondab said: No, I threw back at you what you've been throwing at me. See how that works? I don't say anything about someone unless they do it to me first. The reason for me saying I may have it wrong is because I completely accept that fact that I do not know you Once again, you have no clue why that thread was deleted. You and some others assumed something about me that wasn't true and I decided not to deal with the madness. Being able to laugh at yourself or being able to see humor in something even when its at your expense is a sign of security. Playin' the dozens and all of that stuff....just fun stuff that may even have some truth to it. BUT I will respect that this isn't you. No joking with Jan. I'll respect that boundary as long as you know others may not (lookin' at Cal ).
That's just an excuse to allow yourself to make fun of other people. Unless the person starts the jokes about themself, it is asinine to think you can make fun of someone and they be ok with it. That has nothing to do with security [Edited 5/19/07 16:48pm] Ohhhhh please girl. You weren't trying to give me a taste of my own "so called" medicine , you thought you "got me" and it didn't work. As I said, you put your stuff out there and then say "I'm just defending myself". Passive aggressiveness is annoying as hell to me. Actually Jan, nothing has really been done to you on this thread. You've participated FULLY. So if someone you know walked up to you and said, "Jan you know you got a big ass head." You wouldn't laugh, then say something back and keep it movin'? No you don't have to start the joke for the joke to be funny. As far as the other thread, once again, I didn't even say anything negative to you. its about knowing yourself. Maybe I'm making a lot of assumptions but no more than you've made and that's why this isn't a game of victimization. I'm not saying that you can't get your feelings hurt and I've really yet to hear you say that your feelings are hurt so that's why I'm like why play that game. I've had my feelings hurt before online with something I had nothing to do with so yes I know its possible but I'm unsure that this is what's happened here. but anyway.....John mayer, thanks for an interesting thread.... Rhonda has left the building.....with her red lipstick. ![]() [Edited 5/19/07 21:37pm] | |
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Rhondab said: Janfriend said: That's just an excuse to allow yourself to make fun of other people. Unless the person starts the jokes about themself, it is asinine to think you can make fun of someone and they be ok with it. That has nothing to do with security [Edited 5/19/07 16:48pm] Ohhhhh please girl. You weren't trying to give me a taste of my own "so called" medicine , you thought you "got me" and it didn't work. As I said, you put your stuff out there and then say "I'm just defending myself". Passive aggressiveness is annoying as hell to me. Actually Jan, nothing has really been done to you on this thread. You've participated FULLY. Honestly, I wasn't trying to "get you." I was indeed giving you what you gave. You can believe what you want. I don't try to make evaluations like that about people unless I know them. However, that was how you came across to me which is why I fully recognized and acknowledged I don't know you. It's not passive-aggressive. It's common sense. I suggest you go reread and see that I did nothing to anyone, but a lot of people were spewing hate directly at me. Since you were a part of it, I wouldn't be surprised if you felt it was justified So if someone you know walked up to you and said, "Jan you know you got a big ass head." You wouldn't laugh, then say something back and keep it movin'? No you don't have to start the joke for the joke to be funny.
I would be offended. I honestly think you're saying that to justify making fun of other people. I hope you're not teaching that lesson to children. It's a shame to think a person believes making fun of someone is ok and their feelings don't matter. That really hurts my spirit. Emotional cruelty is worse than physical. As far as the other thread, once again, I didn't even say anything negative to you.
It hurt me because that isn't true and I wasn't going to deal with it. You and Cal don't know me personally and know nothing about my family and I will leave it at that since I am not going to share anything personal here Maybe I'm making a lot of assumptions but no more than you've made and that's why this isn't a game of victimization.
You've made way more personal assumptions than I have I'm not saying that you can't get your feelings hurt and I've really yet to hear you say that your feelings are hurt so that's why I'm like why play that game. I've had my feelings hurt before online with something I had nothing to do with so yes I know its possible but I'm unsure that this is what's happened here.
I already said that the things people have said on here to me have made me angry. It's about respecting someone's else's opinion without discounting them personally. I don't have to say "my feelings are hurt." I don't cry when I get my feelings hurt, I get angry. You don't even see the errors you have made on here as a human being and you probably never will. I just hope You, Cal, RZR, and Laura have peace within your souls. [Edited 5/20/07 0:18am] | |
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After reading this thread, I am laughing at the "Seriousness" of it all. Its a fucking song. A pop song at that. This thread should have its own forum (Psychological Case Studies and the Songs that Inspire them) Even when I am glancing at the P&R threads, never once have I ever read something that has made me laugh and want to take a shower at the same time. I will now get attacked by one angry woman or another after this comment by someone who takes this opinion too seriously, or another who says "how can you just simply write (fill in the blank) and not back up your opinion with evidence. To those folks I say drink some tea, take a shit, have a nice hot shower, and let God, Buddha, Jehovah, Allah, Jesus Christo, Satan, bless your day! Carpenters bend wood, fletchers bend arrows, wise men fashion themselves.
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karmatornado said: After reading this thread, I am laughing at the "Seriousness" of it all. Its a fucking song. A pop song at that. This thread should have its own forum (Psychological Case Studies and the Songs that Inspire them) Even when I am glancing at the P&R threads, never once have I ever read something that has made me laugh and want to take a shower at the same time. I will now get attacked by one angry woman or another after this comment by someone who takes this opinion too seriously, or another who says "how can you just simply write (fill in the blank) and not back up your opinion with evidence. To those folks I say drink some tea, take a shit, have a nice hot shower, and let God, Buddha, Jehovah, Allah, Jesus Christo, Satan, bless your day!
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