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Printableheartbeatocean said: Taken together, all these songs investigate the boundaries between humanity and technology, autonomy and abdication. They seem to be proposing that there is no longer such a thing as pure HUMAN - but that we've all morphed into half-aliens and half-robots (we're not 100% machine yet). But there's also a bit of pleasure in being the modern age freaks we've become.
I don't think I'll ever hear these songs the same way again.  | |
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sextonseven said: heartbeatocean said: Taken together, all these songs investigate the boundaries between humanity and technology, autonomy and abdication. They seem to be proposing that there is no longer such a thing as pure HUMAN - but that we've all morphed into half-aliens and half-robots (we're not 100% machine yet). But there's also a bit of pleasure in being the modern age freaks we've become.
I don't think I'll ever hear these songs the same way again. thank god!  Not that these songs aren't already incredible but she just puts them on a moviescreen vs the TV screen you were viewing them on before.  [Edited 5/18/07 12:53pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sextonseven said: I don't think I'll ever hear these songs the same way again. thank god! Not that these songs aren't already incredible but she just puts them on a moviescreen vs the TV screen you were viewing them on before.
[Edited 5/18/07 12:53pm] Speaking of screens, did you watch that Pilots video heartbeatocean posted earlier? | |
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sextonseven said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: thank god! Not that these songs aren't already incredible but she just puts them on a moviescreen vs the TV screen you were viewing them on before.
[Edited 5/18/07 12:53pm] Speaking of screens, did you watch that Pilots video heartbeatocean posted earlier? YES 
Just bought Felt Mountain too!  Didn't have it before.2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sextonseven said: Speaking of screens, did you watch that Pilots video heartbeatocean posted earlier? YES
Just bought Felt Mountain too! Didn't have it before.I saw that video on MTV one night and I swear I must have bought 'Felt Mountain' the very next day. It remains one of my top five videos of all time. | |
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sextonseven said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: YES
Just bought Felt Mountain too! Didn't have it before.I saw that video on MTV one night and I swear I must have bought 'Felt Mountain' the very next day. It remains one of my top five videos of all time. OK, I've just been lagging on all kinds of shit.  I don't have Black Cherry either  But when I saw Onenitealone praising Supernature I immediately went out and bought it. Love that album to death!. And Lovely Head is one of those songs that freak me out. Not that I am scared of it but how I feel when I hear it, my skin and my body is holding me back from expressing truly what I feel about it. Not sure if that makes sense or not  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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heartbeatocean said: I've been taking some notes.
Okay, so there is a real nostalgic element to Goldfrapp dating back as far as the 1930's I'd say, but definitely covering musical idioms of 1950's sci fi soundtracks, 70's disco and 80's new wave. The use of her voice feels very old school, like Barbara Streisand. Her lyrical themes are decidedly early 20th century: fascism, technology, aliens, monsters, Cold War, brainwashing She presents a sado-masochistic relationship between humanity and technology, a mix of pleasure and alienation, an irony. Lovely Head It starts in my belly Then up to my heart Into my mouth I cant keep it shut Do you recognize the smell Is that how you tell Us apart I fool myself To sleep and dream Nobodys there No-one but me So cool Youre hardly there Why cant this be killing you Frankenstein would want your mind Your lovely head Your lovely head Is this a song about dismemberment, birth, sex? The formal elegance of the voice is nostalgic, but there is dis-ease with the crashing scrunched notes of the synthesizer. It's like a horse that can't run. And there's that wailing sound. Thank you for compelling me to think about this song in all three contexts  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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You know, I am absolutely amazed at how many people ignore lyrics. I am driven first and foremost by lyrics. Of course I love catchy tunes and music itself but it's always the lyrics I gravitate towards and what makes a song for me 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You know, I am absolutely amazed at how many people ignore lyrics. I am driven first and foremost by lyrics. Of course I love catchy tunes and music itself but it's always the lyrics I gravitate towards and what makes a song for me
I usually ignore lyrics because I'm too lazy to look them up. But that's where a lot of the meaning comes in. This process is helping ME too appreciate the songs so much more. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: heartbeatocean said: I've been taking some notes.
Okay, so there is a real nostalgic element to Goldfrapp dating back as far as the 1930's I'd say, but definitely covering musical idioms of 1950's sci fi soundtracks, 70's disco and 80's new wave. The use of her voice feels very old school, like Barbara Streisand. Her lyrical themes are decidedly early 20th century: fascism, technology, aliens, monsters, Cold War, brainwashing She presents a sado-masochistic relationship between humanity and technology, a mix of pleasure and alienation, an irony. Lovely Head It starts in my belly Then up to my heart Into my mouth I cant keep it shut Do you recognize the smell Is that how you tell Us apart I fool myself To sleep and dream Nobodys there No-one but me So cool Youre hardly there Why cant this be killing you Frankenstein would want your mind Your lovely head Your lovely head Is this a song about dismemberment, birth, sex? The formal elegance of the voice is nostalgic, but there is dis-ease with the crashing scrunched notes of the synthesizer. It's like a horse that can't run. And there's that wailing sound. Thank you for compelling me to think about this song in all three contexts Which three contexts are you referring to? | |
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heartbeatocean said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Thank you for compelling me to think about this song in all three contexts Which three contexts are you referring to? dismemberment, birth and sex silly  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: sextonseven said: Speaking of screens, did you watch that Pilots video heartbeatocean posted earlier? YES
Just bought Felt Mountain too! Didn't have it before.What could have been Goldfrapp's best video ever was scrapped before it was completed. Here's a snippet: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/145721 Okay, maybe it would have been too cheesy. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: heartbeatocean said: Which three contexts are you referring to? dismemberment, birth and sex silly I love that Alsion's lyrics are so ambiguous. | |
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sextonseven said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: dismemberment, birth and sex silly I love that Alsion's lyrics are so ambiguous. Me too. I love symbolism in music I'd rather have something I can decode vs straight out messages.2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Is this thread on fire yet? It should be. | |
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sextonseven said: Is this thread on fire yet? It should be.
It'll get there 5 more posts to go 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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OH MY GOSH, I think I have just fallen madly in love with each and every one of you | |
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Goldfrapp, together with Bjork, are one of the few bigger thinkers of modern popular music!  | |
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heartbeatocean said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You know, I am absolutely amazed at how many people ignore lyrics. I am driven first and foremost by lyrics. Of course I love catchy tunes and music itself but it's always the lyrics I gravitate towards and what makes a song for me
I usually ignore lyrics because I'm too lazy to look them up. But that's where a lot of the meaning comes in. This process is helping ME too appreciate the songs so much more. I'm like that a lot, but then there are times when I actually do look up lyrics and kick myself for not doing so sooner. Goldfrapp's "Black Cherry" is an excellent example. I think it's just an old fashioned love song (possibly even a 21st century wedding song?), but I'll wait for your dissertation on that one before I say any more. | |
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HBO, check the thread with your name as the title! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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more dissertations to follow  | |
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Strict Machine
I get high on a buzz Then a rush when I'm plugged in you I connect When I'm flush You get love when told what to do Wonderful electric Wonderful electric Wonderful electric Cover me in you I'm in love, I'm in love I'm in love with a strict machine I'm in love, I'm in love I'm in love with a strict machine When you send me a pulse Feel a wave of new love Through me I'm dressed in white noise You know just what I want So please Wonderful electric Wonderful electric Wonderful electric Cover me in you I'm in love, I'm in love I'm in love with a strict machine I'm in love, I'm in love I'm in love with a strict machine This is the most explicit song yet to describe a sado-masochistic love relationship with "the machine" -- which I have a feeling here is electronica, computers, amps, televisions, and representative of the artistic process...her references to "dressed in white noise" and "plugged into you" and "you know just what I want"... Back to Lovely Head: Frankenstein would want your mind... Here, it's as though the machine has her mind, and her body too. A disco song straight out of the 70's, the strict machine beats out whips and slaps, pulls zippers, and even grinds into penetration. I can see Allison laying naked on a turntable spinning around and around or riding a conveyor belt in an automated mechanical assembly line receiving whips and slaps from an orchestra of talented pleasure machines.
The song accelerates at this point, building sexual energy, just when the synthesizer picks up the melody and sings in counterpoint to her melody (and whispers and grunts). The machine is a full expressive partner in this deal, as happy as she is. The song ends on a note of exaltation, with the ethereal proclamations of gospel-like choral singing. I guess we're in church now. | |
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Seriously, if I start teaching high school (which I'm thinking of doing), I'm going to work this stuff into the curriculum. Maybe have the kids write essays about their favorite songs. | |
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