vainandy said:

Damn, y'all are some real playa haters. There was some good stuff after 1984. You guys are just stuck in your favorite era of music.

I have a song called "Daisy Lady" by a group called 7th Wonder.It's on the 'Full Length Funk: The 12" Collection' CD which I'm sure you have,too.

NWF said:

Yeah,there was some good stuff after 1984,but come on....R&B in the early 80s was superior to the crap in the late 80s.Hell,the summer of '81 was R&B's high point in the 80s,imo.

I don't use shit hop terms.



Yeah there was but much less.



I moved on to house music in the late 1980s and early 1990s. When shit hop took over and every thing slowed down (tempo wise), I said "fuck it" to all new music. I grew up on fast ass shakin' jams and I refuse to go backwards to accepting music with the tempo of Lawrence Welk. Rappers try to pretend that they are tough thugs but that's only to disguise the fact that they are really a bunch of slow listening Waldo dorks.

SoulAlive said:

I wouldn't know since I wasn't born yet. But I came up during the late 80's and early 90's, so of course I'm gonna defend that era.

But that's how it is. Whatever generation in which you came up, you're gonna defend your music and say that those were the days.













Playa haters.
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I have "Daisy Lady" and that's not it. The jam I'm talking about is harder and more funky. I saw the episode guide on the "Soul Train" website and they performed a song called "The Tilt". I'm wondering if that's the song I'm thinking about.

speaking of early 80s jams,do you remember


"Let's Get Crackin'" by Shock? From 1981

Well, tell that to all the people in their 20s in the 1970s that were in the discos night after night. They would have been teenagers during the Motown era of the 1960s and were enjoying the hell out of the 1970s.

I first started bitching about music going downhill in 1985 and I was only 17. Why? Because it actually was going downhill. Age has nothing to do with it.


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NWF said:

Ohhhhh,so that explains it You ain't Old School! lol

Hell yeah and an even funkier jam by them in 1982 called "Electrophonic Phunk".

SoulAlive said:

Actually, I was born in '82. And yes, while that music then was amazing, I'm not gonna say that everything went downhill from there.

vainandy said:

don't they also sing "Let Your Body Do The Talking" from 1982?

NWF said:

I'm not saying that either.I'm saying things went downhill after 1984

SoulAlive said:

I'll tell you when things actually went downhill. When Shemar Moore was the host. I really tried to watch it and get into it, but the acts were so boring.

But I'll tell you what though: if I came up during the late 90's-millenium, I probably would've enjoyed the music. That would've been the soundtrack to my youth jsut as the music you guys liked from the 70's and early 80's was your soundtrack.

The name sounds familiar.

NWF said:

In 1982,Prince released '1999'.
In 1982,Michael Jackson released 'Thriller'.
In 1982,Rick James released 'Throwin Down'.
In 1982,Marvin Gaye released 'Midnight Love'
In 1982,Luther Vandross released 'Forever,For Always,For Love'
In 1982,Cameo released 'Alligator Woman'
In 1982,The Gap band released the album with "Early In The Morning","You Dropped A Bomb On Me" and "Outstanding".
In 1982,Evelyn King released 'Get Loose'.
In 1982,Junior released his debut album with "Mama Used To Say" and "Too Late"
In 1982,Con Funk Shun released 'To The Max'.
In 1982,The Time released 'What Time Is It'.
In 1982,War released 'Outlaw'.
In 1982,Zapp released 'Zapp II'


Nuff said R&B was kickin' ass in 1982! Compare these releases to 1988 or 1989 Late-80s R&B doesn't come close!

That's because there were no good acts to put on the show. At least Don Cornelius had the good sense to leave the show before it ruined his reputation.




You would have enjoyed the late 90s music because that would have been all you knew. Corporations were controlling the radio and video channels by then and they kept everything out that was a threat to the cheap stuff that was being made. If you notice, there were no style changes during these years (at least in R&B anyway). Shit hop dominated since the early 90s and still dominates to this day.

When I was growing up in the early 80s, there were no oldies R&B stations. The only oldies station I remember was maybe a 50s station. All the R&B from the 60s and 70s, was played every once in a while on stations that played current R&B and at certain times of the day. For instance, I never heard a song like "Soul Makossa" back when it was popular in the early 1970s. I heard it for the first time on the radio during the early 1980s.

vainandy said:

Thats so true. If that's all you know that's what will be the best to you, even if its a load of crap.!!

Culture Club / Cherrelle / Alexander O'Neal (aired 26 April 1986)
The Deele / Georgio / Pebbles (aired 30 January 1988)
New Edition / Rosie Gaines (aired 8 March 1986)
Klymaxx / Jack Wagner (aired 15 March 1986)
Janet Jackson / Atlantic Starr (aired 29 March 1986)
New Edition / Paula Abdul (aired 15 October 1988)
Robert Palmer / Atlantic Starr / Stephanie Mills (aired 3 June 1989)
Teena Marie / Rude Boys / LL Cool J (aired 19 January 1991)
The Time /J.T. Taylor / Kwame (aired 22 September 1990)
Lalah Hathaway / Tevin Campbell / Tony! Toni! Tone! (aired 29 September 1990)

SoulAlive said:

Yep SoulAlive, it's off they're first album. I have Shock's first two album's, both are funky as hell!!

Lovesexy82 said:

wow,looks like Rosie Gaines appeared on Soul Train in her pre-Prince days

Abdul said:

Thanks I'm gonna look for those albums when I go on my next vinyl dig

I forgot....who's gonna be on this week's episode??

SoulAlive said:

Detroit's own Freda Payne and Atlantic Starr (originally aired Oct. 28, 1978)

dreamfactory313 said:

thanks

I gotta whole lot of these I wanna see, but at the rate thangs are goin', it'll probably never happen.

The O'Jays / David Ruffin / Sylvia Robinson (aired 21 April 1973)
Ashford & Simpson / Tavares / Little Beaver (aired 26 October 1974)
The Sylvers / Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs (14 January 1978)
L.T.D. / Michael Henderson (25 February 1978)
Larry Graham & Graham Central Station / Charles Jackson
Lenny Williams / Mother's Finest / Cheech & Chong (25 November 1978)
The Jacksons (10 February 1979)
Carrie Lucas / GQ / The Gap Band (26 May 1979)
Rick James / Teena Marie (10 November 1979)
The Whispers / Patrice Rushen (29 March 1980)
L.T.D. / Seventh Wonder / Kurtis Blow (aired 18 October 1980)
Cameo / Edmund Sylvers (aired 22 November 1980)
Michael Henderson / LaToya Jackson (aired 29 November 1980)
Lakeside / Geraldine Hunt (aired 13 December 1980)
The Bar-Kays / Yarbrough & Peoples / Robert Winters (aired 4 April 1981)
Shalamar / Teena Marie (aired 2 May 1981)
Betty Wright / Funkadelic (aired 6 June 1981)
Cameo (band) / Mantra (aired 4 July 1981)
"Salute to Rick James (aired 31 October 1981)
Jose Feliciano / Stone City Band (aired 14 November 1981)
George Benson / Patti Austin (aired 5 December 1981)
Skyy / O'Bryan (aired 6 February 1982)
Cameo / Patrice Rushen (aired 19 June 1982)
Luther Vandross / Cheryl Lynn (aired 27 November 1982)
Chuck Mangione / Howard Johnson (aired 11 December 1982)
The Gap Band / Yarbrough & Peoples / Robert "Goodie" Whitfield (aired 7 May 1983)
O'Bryan / New Edition / Ollie & Jerry (aired 22 September 1984)
Zapp / Meli'sa Morgan / Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam (aired 12 April 1986)

SoulAlive said:

Good thread, Alive. Of course, I agree. Vintage, classic footage of the greatest performers ever. The J5, Marvin, Stevie, Bootsy. The clothes, the dances, the afros,.... the freedom.

blackguitaristz said:

I don't know why Don won't release this stuff on DVD.People would RUSH out to buy these episodes.

SoulAlive said:

Anytime. Here's more of Freda Payne: http://www.youtube.com/wa...Xmzf7fg2Qs

Anybody got the schedule for the upcoming weeks?