chewwsey said:

You really hit on something. There was a time when those rappers who ushered in mainstream success used to brag about their newfound wealth, which was fine, because folks know they paid dues. E.g., Biggie's "Juicy," a great rags-to-riches track by a cat who grew up in hip-hop. These days, we have cats who don't even give us any reason to appreciate their braggin' on what they have, because they have no skills and they're just providing background noise for beats.

And I co-sign most of what Blaque said. It's cheaper and more profitable to market hit-pop, so until the streets move on to something else, it will go on this way.

Bishop31 said:

Bishop31,don't give up hope.I was talking about the major record companies like Sony,A&M,Virgin,MCA,etc.that want to sign new young r&b artist or groups to that kind of "crap" r&b music. There are lots of other record companies that appreciate the value of classic soul and classic funk music but they usually independent record labels(or "indie music labels").For example,there is this record label called "Soul Street Records" that specializes in only classic soul,deep funk,and blues. Also there is Stax Records in Memphis,Tenn. There are probably a lot more but I don't remember off the top of my head. So don't give up.Plus go online for some information as well.

well I love beyonce, she's the shining light from all the r&b/hip hop artists today. Some may disagree with me, but the girl can saaang, she can dance and she works her behind off more than anyone in the music business at present

N'dambi
Conya Doss
Eric Roberson
Mint Condition
Frank Mccomb
Meshell
Anthony Hamilton
Lalah Hathaway
Bilal
Darien Brockington
Cameron Korvett
Jenifer Hudson

JackieBlue said:

lloyd looks like Flavor flav?


omgosh....

I do think this is another generational thing though....ya'll truly forget all of the fly by singers that came through the 80's and 90's and are no where to be found.

Lloyd is an average singer but is a good young man. This is what I keep hearing through comments from ppl who've met him or have interviewed him. Not a thug. Just a lame singer.


and tonylover...metal did the same to women as well. So the question is why do MEN do this to women.

If I hear about this Lloyd person one more time... I only know of him through the Org. I finally looked him up and damn if he doesn't look like a younger verssion of Flavor Flav.

I wont pretend to know the answers to half these questions but I died laughing while at the Barber shop yesterday, they had BET on and a song came on by Lloyd called "Get it Shawty"


ROTFL!



I had to stop to think if my 7 yr old son had wrote that song

I have some questions:

1.Why do so many R&B singers want 2 look like rappers? What happened 2 the days when being different was cool?

2.Why does 85% of current R&B HAVE to feature a guest rapper or have a rap remix?

3.What the fuck is up with all the sampling? Did Prince, Michael, Stevie, others take all the good melodies?

4.How in the blue hell did Pretty Ricky get popular?

5.What is up with parents letting their preteen kids listen to this crap so the cycle continues and the kids become fucked up(aka not knowing shit about music)

6.When these "songwriters" create a song, are they even thinking of writing a classic or an "at the moment" hit? It's to think of songs from the past 10 years that will make a lasting impression

7. Why is everybody "the next so and so"? Usher, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Lloyd, and these other muthafuckers are "the next Michael Jackson" yet they probably won't last another decade(in the case of Lloyd and Chris Brown, another 4 or 5 years) somebody's always the next Prince, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye!

8.What happened to real instruments. I think it's cool to use Reason or Pro-Tools but never using the real thing?

9.Whatever happened to the R&B band???

I got a lot but these are some of the things I've been thinking about.....

Part II of my list:
Leela James
Jaguar Wright
Rahsaan Patterson
Rachael Ferrell

phunkdaddy said:

You are correct. She can sing,dance and she is a tireless worker. The problem
is the bullshit that she's singing that turns people off.

I have some questions:

1.Why do so many R&B singers want 2 look like rappers? What happened 2 the days when being different was cool?

2.Why does 85% of current R&B HAVE to feature a guest rapper or have a rap remix?

3.What the fuck is up with all the sampling? Did Prince, Michael, Stevie, others take all the good melodies?

4.How in the blue hell did Pretty Ricky get popular?

5.What is up with parents letting their preteen kids listen to this crap so the cycle continues and the kids become fucked up(aka not knowing shit about music)

6.When these "songwriters" create a song, are they even thinking of writing a classic or an "at the moment" hit? It's to think of songs from the past 10 years that will make a lasting impression

7. Why is everybody "the next so and so"? Usher, Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Lloyd, and these other muthafuckers are "the next Michael Jackson" yet they probably won't last another decade(in the case of Lloyd and Chris Brown, another 4 or 5 years) somebody's always the next Prince, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye!

8.What happened to real instruments. I think it's cool to use Reason or Pro-Tools but never using the real thing?

9.Whatever happened to the R&B band???

Graycap23 said:

Hey GreyCap23, have you heard of Sy Smith, she's really good

PsychedelicButterfly said:

Hey, Thanx 4 the Info., I have come 2 a crossroads as a Musician. I just don't wanna get signed 2 a Label that will make me a Puppet like so many other Artists. Its sad 2 see these young artists that act like they're doing it big..but then at the end of the day they barely got enough money 2 get an Apartment.