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Reply #210 posted 05/09/07 3:12pm

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The first time I heard Dragon, I fell the fuck out.

It's like Sister Janet and Pandora's Aquarium times infinity!


Just listened to it about 20 mins ago, actually. Gorgeous. cool
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Reply #211 posted 05/09/07 3:20pm

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Just listened to it about 20 mins ago, actually. Gorgeous. cool

Did you watch the Youtube links I posted?
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Reply #212 posted 05/09/07 3:27pm

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Did you watch the Youtube links I posted?


No, but I got 'em saved for later. cool
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Reply #213 posted 05/09/07 3:29pm

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No, but I got 'em saved for later. cool

you'll like. nod
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Reply #214 posted 05/09/07 3:30pm

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Cloudbuster said:

No, but I got 'em saved for later. cool

you'll like. nod


I'll look forward to them.
Gotta shoot for now, catch you later. wink

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Reply #215 posted 05/09/07 3:53pm

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I'll look forward to them.
Gotta shoot for now, catch you later. wink


coolio. good to see you back. biggrin
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Reply #216 posted 05/10/07 1:03pm

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Apparently Tori debuted at #5 here. confuse

From Billboard News
— Tori Amos’ “American Doll Posse” (Epic) debuts at No. 5 with 54,000, her sixth top 10 record. The artist’s last album, 2005’s “The Beekeeper,” also entered at No. 5 but with 83,000.
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Reply #217 posted 05/10/07 1:03pm

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I guess this goes a long way to explaining her UK chart position:


From Everythingtori.com:

We’ve had a lot of people asking so we thought we would take the opportunity to clarify something. According to the UK Chart Regulations, the limited edition special package of American Doll Posse has been disqualified from the UK Charts. Apparently offering the fans 5 postcards is considered too much of a gift, and sales of the CD are ineligible. Tori made the decision not to compromise the packaging so the UK fans would receive the same presentation as the rest of the world. We appreciate your interest and concern for the situation.

“Too much of a gift”? The sales of all the limited edition copies in the UK aren’t going to be counted because of what basically amounts to some extra album artwork? That seems pretty ridiculous to us. Come on, UK chart rulemaking people, these are copies of the ALBUM and they were SOLD. Count them, ferchrissakes.

Update: for interest, under the very short section on “Permitted Free Gifts,” the official UK chart rules state:

“Cards” to a maximum of 4. Card(s) must be contained within the format packaging and be 2 sided with no folds. Card(s) maybe printed on both sides. Maximum card size is dictated by the dimensions of the packaging they are to be contained within.

( Randy tells us they disqualified Beck’s last album too, because of stickers. Our jaws are on the floor.)

Whomever came up with those rules needs to get to a proctologist immediately. The Undented Doctor diagnoses severe anal retentiveness in need of urgent emergency treatment.
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Reply #218 posted 05/10/07 8:02pm

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SO FUCK THEM, IT'S NOT COOL. SOUNDS PRETENTIOUS TO ME. ANTONY? OH ANTONY!
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Reply #219 posted 05/10/07 10:10pm

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SO FUCK THEM, IT'S NOT COOL. SOUNDS PRETENTIOUS TO ME. ANTONY? OH ANTONY!

Quinneth?
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Reply #220 posted 05/11/07 5:10am

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Apparently Tori debuted at #5 here. confuse

From Billboard News
— Tori Amos’ “American Doll Posse” (Epic) debuts at No. 5 with 54,000, her sixth top 10 record. The artist’s last album, 2005’s “The Beekeeper,” also entered at No. 5 but with 83,000.


It seems she did. Dunno which chart I was reading, then. lol
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Reply #221 posted 05/11/07 6:02am

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Cloudbuster said:

GangstaFam said:

Apparently Tori debuted at #5 here. confuse



It seems she did. Dunno which chart I was reading, then. lol


I can't believe you're checking the charts! smile
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Reply #222 posted 05/11/07 6:16am

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Cheek said:

I can't believe you're checking the charts! smile


I always like to see how well my friends are doing. smile
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Reply #223 posted 05/11/07 6:18am

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Cheek said:

I can't believe you're checking the charts! smile


I always like to see how well my friends are doing. smile


Oh, I didn't know your best friends are made of plastic! smile
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Reply #224 posted 05/11/07 6:25am

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Cheek said:

Oh, I didn't know your best friends are made of plastic! smile


You don't know much. smile
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Reply #225 posted 05/11/07 6:30am

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Reply #226 posted 05/11/07 6:32am

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You don't know much. smile


Not much but enough! smile
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Reply #227 posted 05/11/07 7:10am

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Cheek said:

Not much but enough! smile


Your blank reply was better. smile
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Reply #228 posted 05/11/07 9:18am

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Cloudbuster said:

Cheek said:

Not much but enough! smile


Your blank reply was better. smile


Thank God it's never appeared! smile

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Reply #229 posted 05/12/07 12:38pm

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Cloudbuster said:

GangstaFam said:

Did you watch the Youtube links I posted?


No, but I got 'em saved for later. cool


I heard Dragon sung by the kids (I've watched that link about 20 times lol) before I even HEARD Tori's version and now it's all wrapped up in the song for me. love worship
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Reply #230 posted 05/12/07 2:31pm

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Has anyone tried rearranging the song order (blasphemy coming from me, I know) so that all the different girls' songs are grouped together? I'm wondering what the album would sound like as five separate EPs all thematically different. Of course I just read the Tori interview in the latest Billboard and she says the song order is very specific so it figures the one time ever that I want to change an album tracklisting is the one time the artist blatantly says that would be wrong.
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Reply #231 posted 05/13/07 1:28am

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Nathan...thanks so much for posting those videos of the kids choirs...I just bawled watching them...they are such beautiful children...and to watch Tori with them...it was just amazing. That God for that choir director... smile
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Reply #232 posted 05/14/07 11:40am

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GangstaFam said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

THIS





ALBUM




IS




STELLAR!
clapping

and thank God there are lyrics! clapping lol

And be quiet Godsseat! lol I almost didn't want to buy this once you invoked the "Beekeper". That album to me is the musical equivalent of flaked off paint chips from the kitchen window sill. Soggy Chips! lol I have no idea what people see in that thing. I really tried to do the lyrics on it but it didn't hit. Nathan, please give me a crash course on that album lol

I love the whole concept of the 5 perspectives. Are these a new chast of characters or has Tori invoked any of them besides herself in her past work? Musically I find this album to be rich and complex and yet very comforting at the same time. I'll be spending lots of time with these ladies over the weekend in Miami. I'll post more thoughts when I get back smile

I think she usually includes lyrics, fortunately.

That's great that it was an instant fit for you. I know how she's pretty hit and miss for you.

I don't know if I have any advice to school folks on Beekeeper. Even though I loved it straightaway and still do, I can see why many fans don't. It's mature, slow and highly produced - not exactly what most fans expect from her. Plus, it's really long and a lot of people don't have patience for that. This new one makes 3 double albums in a row. But I honestly think she does it because she's used to putting half her material out as b-sides. Now that she doesn't have singles anymore, she tries to get it all out in one place. I appreciate that. Many don't.



I keep coming back to this album, which is a really good sign lol I think this will only grow on me better and better nod

OK, do we know which girls sang which songs or is this a guessing game? And I don't know why Fat Slut creeps me out but it does. It really conveys the ugly part of being a fat slut. Not that I think fat sluts are bad or wrong but just the judgement from the outside to it, that part is so ugly and I feel that coming through big and loud in that song. I love fat sluts lol Don't want to screw them but even fat girls need love hug

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Reply #233 posted 05/14/07 1:56pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

GangstaFam said:


I think she usually includes lyrics, fortunately.

That's great that it was an instant fit for you. I know how she's pretty hit and miss for you.

I don't know if I have any advice to school folks on Beekeeper. Even though I loved it straightaway and still do, I can see why many fans don't. It's mature, slow and highly produced - not exactly what most fans expect from her. Plus, it's really long and a lot of people don't have patience for that. This new one makes 3 double albums in a row. But I honestly think she does it because she's used to putting half her material out as b-sides. Now that she doesn't have singles anymore, she tries to get it all out in one place. I appreciate that. Many don't.



I keep coming back to this album, which is a really good sign lol I think this will only grow on me better and better nod

OK, do we know which girls sang which songs or is this a guessing game? And I don't know why Fat Slut creeps me out but it does. It really conveys the ugly part of being a fat slut. Not that I think fat sluts are bad or wrong but just the judgement from the outside to it, that part is so ugly and I feel that coming through big and loud in that song. I love fat sluts lol Don't want to screw them but even fat girls need love hug

smile


Aren't the songs properly credited on your CD?
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Reply #234 posted 05/14/07 2:00pm

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sextonseven said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:




I keep coming back to this album, which is a really good sign lol I think this will only grow on me better and better nod

OK, do we know which girls sang which songs or is this a guessing game? And I don't know why Fat Slut creeps me out but it does. It really conveys the ugly part of being a fat slut. Not that I think fat sluts are bad or wrong but just the judgement from the outside to it, that part is so ugly and I feel that coming through big and loud in that song. I love fat sluts lol Don't want to screw them but even fat girls need love hug

smile


Aren't the songs properly credited on your CD?


eek Are they?! lol I looked to see if there was credit but I didn't see them. I guess I need to scrub the booklet a little harder then lol
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Reply #235 posted 05/14/07 2:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sextonseven said:



Aren't the songs properly credited on your CD?


eek Are they?! lol I looked to see if there was credit but I didn't see them. I guess I need to scrub the booklet a little harder then lol


It might be possible that they aren't now that I think about it. I copied the CD into my iTunes at work and the mp3 files are all credited. I'll have to check the actual disc when I get home.

This is the first Tori album that doesn't feel like work when I listen to it (despite the complicated concept) in a very long time.

grammar
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Reply #236 posted 05/14/07 2:08pm

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sextonseven said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



eek Are they?! lol I looked to see if there was credit but I didn't see them. I guess I need to scrub the booklet a little harder then lol


It might be possible that they aren't now that I think about it. I copied the CD into my iTunes at work and the mp3 files are all credited. I'll have to check the actual disc when I get home.

This is the first Tori album that doesn't feel like work when I listen to it (despite the complicated concept) in a very long time.

grammar
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I don't feel like I'm working either. Not even with the lyrics. And I will even listen to Programmable Soda because Nathan likes it lol
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Reply #237 posted 05/14/07 2:15pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sextonseven said:



It might be possible that they aren't now that I think about it. I copied the CD into my iTunes at work and the mp3 files are all credited. I'll have to check the actual disc when I get home.

This is the first Tori album that doesn't feel like work when I listen to it (despite the complicated concept) in a very long time.

grammar
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I don't feel like I'm working either. Not even with the lyrics. And I will even listen to Programmable Soda because Nathan likes it lol


I really like "Posse Bonus" because the lyrics are so funny. Although I thought they were a lot funnier when I thought Tori was saying "pookie pie" instead of "porcupine". lol
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Reply #238 posted 05/14/07 2:19pm

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sextonseven said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


I don't feel like I'm working either. Not even with the lyrics. And I will even listen to Programmable Soda because Nathan likes it lol


I really like "Posse Bonus" because the lyrics are so funny. Although I thought they were a lot funnier when I thought Tori was saying "pookie pie" instead of "porcupine". lol

OK, is that an actual bonus song? lol Like is she acknowledging the fans? Here is a little throwaway cuz I actually like you lol
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Reply #239 posted 05/14/07 2:32pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sextonseven said:



I really like "Posse Bonus" because the lyrics are so funny. Although I thought they were a lot funnier when I thought Tori was saying "pookie pie" instead of "porcupine". lol

OK, is that an actual bonus song? lol Like is she acknowledging the fans? Here is a little throwaway cuz I actually like you lol


It sounds like it could have been a b-side. Maybe it's explained in the Tori blog online. There's so much to explore about this album beyond the actual songs.
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