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Reply #30 posted 04/22/07 1:58pm

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Cinnamon234 said:

dag said:



When did she say that? I think she said something that he does not appear sexual or something like that. Well, anyways, if he was asexual, why did she marry him.


She said that around 3 or 4 years in an interview with GQ magazine. She said she married him because they had a lot in common & she said that Michael is a lot different in private then he is in public . She also said she felt bad for him and wanted to "save him" or something like that. I think she thought he was "somewhat a-sexual" after they got married though, she probably didn't think so right off the bat. And He does not appear sexual? Lol what does that mean?

appears asexual? Have you ever seen him perform?

Anyways, here´s the interview.
Did you feel physically for him?

Of course, I wouldn't have married him at the time if I hadn't. It wasn't instinctive to me right off the bat. He needed to make that overture because I wasn't going to.

He's a fairly unappealing guy physically.

He's somewhat asexual but he can be whatever he wants to be when he wants to be.

She´s not saying he´s asexual, but that he may "look" like it.

I loved the most when Stern asked her if she was satisfied by him. She didn´t wanna answer at first and then she said something like "do you think I would have married someone who didn´t." I was like eek eek Cool lol Anyways, this answers one more question. They did have sex before getting married.

Lilgish, what is "mono"?

Here´s the full LMP interview.
http://www.lisapresley.de/lp/p110.html
[Edited 4/22/07 14:01pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #31 posted 04/22/07 2:13pm

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Here´s an excerpt from Tatiana´s book. Someone posted it on KOP board.


On the set of the vid and meeting michael.

TT: The time had come when a slim Michael came walking out through an alley. this particular alley is the one that I run down in the video that is a 'dead end'. I stood trying to control myself and keep my cool. I could not look directly at him, but I could feel his presence within the group of people that surrounded him. His manager Frank Dileo, was to his left, and his photographer, sam emerson, was to his right. Michael stopped and stood five feet away from me. I could not believe thye artist I most admired and loved stood just before me. It was more than a professional moment: he was the only one for me whom i secretly held a big crush. I just could not bring myself to look up at him! Instead, I focused on Vince Patterson who stood to my left. Vince greeted Michael and they shared a few words. I did'nt know for a fact but sensed that the two had a rapport. Vince turned to me and introduced me to Michael. He said, " Michael, this is Tatiana, and tatiana this is Michael." Michael extended his hand to me, and I extended mine. I looked into his eyes and managed a quick nervous smile. Foe some reason, I could not look into his eyes longer than a split second or two. His stare was so intense. His eyes were piercing right through my soul. Michael's presence was more powerful then words could ever express.



Her Meeting Katherine Jackson(michael's mom of course)

TT: There I was standing near the end of the buffet line waiting for it to move. I saw Mrs. Jackson at a distance with a friend. They started walking twards me. I remeber thinking Oh MY God! She is coming twards me. Michael's mother is coming twards me. what do I say? I just could not help but be start struck by her. A s she stood next tome, i only mustered up a shy smile. Janet(Katherins's friend, not daughter) introduced us. she said, " Mrs. Jackson this is the girl Michae's working with Tatiana. " I said, " hi nice to meet you. " Then she went to look at the buffet but never walked away with anything. To be honest, I could not help but to think that she was checking me out. She wanted to see the girl she had heard about. The girl that had captivated Michael's intrest or tweaked Michael's curiosity, and I eventually found out I was correct about her suspicion. She admitted it to me later.


Michael flirting with her
( I'm just going to nic pick these parts cause it's a long paragrah)

TT: Michael was Flirting with me! I thought if anyone have ever questioned his manhood, here was his or her answer. This was a guys who did'nt care about expressing his likeness or attraction to me in front of other's.

her falling out of the car on the set of the vid.

TT: The fall caused a run in my stockings and the stylist wanted me to change. I started walking of the set and michael asked, " where are you going?" I explained that she wanted me to change my stockings. He disapproved by saying. " No I like it. I think the run is neat. It's sexy. " I found that comment was a masuline statement, and personally, i did not think the run would matter.

now getting to the main points*****

Michael told her that he loved her walk and said that it was very sexy.

Michael oked the kiss with Tatiana on the song "TWYMMF' during the bad tour.

After tatiana was fired(from the tour) Katherine Had invited her to her home more than once.

Michael's nieces and nephews called her 'Aunt Tatiana Jackson' lol I thought that was sweet.

says that no one has had that affect on her the way mike did ( that was refferring to prince)

She admits that she was hurt when he married lmp cause she felt like that should have been her place, and when asked about the infamous MTV kiss Tati said : ' Well all I have to say is, our kiss was far more convincing.

Onlt time will tell what the furture holds for me or for Michael, but after everything I still believe in my dreams. You can call me crazy if you like, but I will always have a bit of a soft spot for this little kid from Gary, indiana who captured my eye and made me apart of his history.

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #32 posted 04/23/07 6:51am

SoulAlive

it's a shame MJ didn't marry her.She's certainly more appealing that that ugly cow (Debbie Rowe) he married in the late 90s boxed
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Reply #33 posted 04/23/07 6:54am

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lilgish said:

She also implied he gave her Mono, for whatever it's worth.



what is "MONO"? lol I'm almost afraid to ask,lol
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Reply #34 posted 04/23/07 6:55am

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DarlingDiana said:


Well being the huge MJ I know you I are, I thought you would've known that it was Frank that fired her, not MJ.


Yeah but Frank took orders from MJ. Maybe Frank actually said the word, but he was probably just carrying out orders from his boss. cool



why was she fired?
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Reply #35 posted 04/23/07 7:06am

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SoulAlive said:

JasonStar said:



Yeah but Frank took orders from MJ. Maybe Frank actually said the word, but he was probably just carrying out orders from his boss. cool



why was she fired?

Because she kissed him. It wasn't reheased. It went all over the tabloids. I think the kiss just drew too much attention to the relationship and Frank thought it was better for Michael is she dind't remain on tour anymore. I guess he felt he would lose focus if Tatiana continued the tour. But Frank never let Michael get close to anyone. I'll never understand why.
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Reply #36 posted 04/23/07 7:08am

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DarlingDiana said:

SoulAlive said:




why was she fired?

Because she kissed him. It wasn't reheased. It went all over the tabloids. I think the kiss just drew too much attention to the relationship and Frank thought it was better for Michael is she dind't remain on tour anymore. I guess he felt he would lose focus if Tatiana continued the tour. But Frank never let Michael get close to anyone. I'll never understand why.



confuse No wonder Michael is so screwed up!! His manager was an idiot! What's wrong with him sharing a kiss onstage?! With a beautiful woman,no less.

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Reply #37 posted 04/23/07 7:40am

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Anytime I watch the Thriller video, I always felt that Michael and Ola Ray made a cute couple.
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Reply #38 posted 04/25/07 5:05am

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Man, MJ must be a complete moron not to have married Tatiana

she is still smoking hot,

and she would have given him all the kids he wanted to have,

instead he had to go fuck it up by using debbie rowe and then another anonymous mother,

what a pity,

Tatiana was made for MJ, just a shame he didn't realise,

I mean, she pretty much wanted MJ! He didn't have to do anything!

what an idiot!

Whoever gets to marry Tatiana will be one lucky fucker!
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Reply #39 posted 04/25/07 5:20am

SoulAlive

dirtyman2005 said:

Man, MJ must be a complete moron not to have married Tatiana

she is still smoking hot,

and she would have given him all the kids he wanted to have,

instead he had to go fuck it up by using debbie rowe and then another anonymous mother,

what a pity,

Tatiana was made for MJ, just a shame he didn't realise,

I mean, she pretty much wanted MJ! He didn't have to do anything!

what an idiot!

Whoever gets to marry Tatiana will be one lucky fucker!



I agree!!! Mike was a fool to let her get away!
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Reply #40 posted 04/25/07 5:51am

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SoulAlive said:

dirtyman2005 said:

Man, MJ must be a complete moron not to have married Tatiana

she is still smoking hot,

and she would have given him all the kids he wanted to have,

instead he had to go fuck it up by using debbie rowe and then another anonymous mother,

what a pity,

Tatiana was made for MJ, just a shame he didn't realise,

I mean, she pretty much wanted MJ! He didn't have to do anything!

what an idiot!

Whoever gets to marry Tatiana will be one lucky fucker!



I agree!!! Mike was a fool to let her get away!


She might be smoking hot, but what if he didn't like her personality- wise? There's more to a person than looks, ya know...
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Reply #41 posted 04/25/07 6:13am

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You can tell just from the interviews she still loves Michael and has a good personality.

it was the people surrounding MJ that prevented them from getting closer.

We all know how MJ was surrounded by people with nothing but their own interests, and even to this day still does.

He should have used his own mind and just married, instead of faffing about and listening to his management teams.

Its been 20 years and she still talks about him which shows she still wants him.
Shows you how devoted she is.

Maybe if MJ had married her then, he might not have got taken all the surgeries further. MJ during Bad looked fine, and he should have got married then to her.

If he had married Tatiana, he would have a beautiful wife, would have a normal family life and none of this bullshit drama that we have today.

And he wouldn't have had to go to Debbie rowe or some other anonymous donor.

What a pity!

Tatiana was and still is the bomb!
Nearing 40, still looks amazing!

Yes we all know its more than looks which matter, but Tatiana seemed to have more than that,

anyone seen the video of her on youtube crying after the Bad tour performance, she was overwhelmed by it and genuine.

Thats not a person with a bad personality! If anything, it shows an innocent and devoted person!

MJ was lead the wrong way! Those damn bastards!

You saw the way he talked in the Bashir documentary of how badly he wanted to have children.

He made a big mistake, he should have just married Tatiana and all would have been solved!

Why take Debbie Rowe over Tatiana??!!

Its mind boggling, it truly is !

And i wonder who is the mother of the third child "Blanket".

Who knows who she is ??

She might be worse than Debbie Rowe!
[Edited 4/25/07 6:18am]
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Reply #42 posted 04/25/07 6:18am

SoulAlive

dirtyman2005 said:

You can tell just from the interviews she still loves Michael and has a good personality.

it was the people surrounding MJ that prevented them from getting closer.

We all know how MJ was surrounded by people with nothing but their own interests, and even to this day still does.

He should have used his own mind and just married, instead of faffing about and listening to his management teams.

Its been 20 years and she still talks about him which shows she still wants him.
Shows you how devoted she is.

Maybe if MJ had married her then, he might not have got taken all the surgeries further. MJ during Bad looked fine, and he should have got married then to her.

If he had married Tatiana, he would have a beautiful wife, would have a normal family life and none of this bullshit drama that we have today.

And he wouldn't have had to go to Debbie rowe or some other anonymous donor.

What a pity!

Tatiana was and still is the bomb!
Nearing 40, still looks amazing!

Yes we all know its more than looks which matter, but Tatiana seemed to have more than that,

anyone seen the video of her crying after the Bad tour performance, she was overwhelmed by it and genuine.

Thats not a person with a bad personality.

MJ was lead the wrong way! Those damn bastards!




AGREED! I've seen Tatiana talk about MJ in interviews and I can tell that she was really in love with him.You can see it her eyes,she was genuine.She was really hurt when he let her go.She seems like a sweet,beautiful person.Imagine what their kids would have looked like!! They coulda had a beautiful family together.
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Reply #43 posted 04/25/07 6:22am

dirtyman2005

yeah, its all damn shame!

instead of getting together with a devoted beautiful woman like Tatiana he chose to let his manager Frank dump her,

what a disgrace!

MJ is truly dumb for this happening!

Debbie Rowe over Tatiana!??

oh lord!

it truly is shocking how this could have occured!

Guess I'll have to marry Tatiana then, and show her a real man!
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Reply #44 posted 04/25/07 6:24am

SoulAlive

dirtyman2005 said:

yeah, its all damn shame!

instead of getting together with a devoted beautiful woman like Tatiana he chose to let his manager Frank dump her,

what a disgrace!

MJ is truly dumb for this happening!

Debbie Rowe over Tatiana!??

oh lord!

it truly is shocking how this could have occured!

Guess I'll have to marry Tatiana then, and show her a real man!



lol Only an idiot would marry an ugly cow like Debbie Rowe instead of a classy,beautiful lady like Tatiana!!
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Reply #45 posted 04/25/07 6:27am

dirtyman2005

SoulAlive said:

dirtyman2005 said:

yeah, its all damn shame!

instead of getting together with a devoted beautiful woman like Tatiana he chose to let his manager Frank dump her,

what a disgrace!

MJ is truly dumb for this happening!

Debbie Rowe over Tatiana!??

oh lord!

it truly is shocking how this could have occured!

Guess I'll have to marry Tatiana then, and show her a real man!



lol Only an idiot would marry an ugly cow like Debbie Rowe instead of a classy,beautiful lady like Tatiana!!


Indeed, she loved him so much that she went on TV after the 93 allegations and tried to help him by saying they had a relationship.

You don't do that for someone unless you really care!

She really cared for him to do that!

What a dumbass MJ is !!

Instead he had to go fuck it all up!
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Reply #46 posted 04/25/07 6:31am

SoulAlive

it's a shame,isn't it disbelief
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Reply #47 posted 04/25/07 10:47pm

alphastreet

she IS sexy, I would have banged her myself though I'm strictly dickly
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Reply #48 posted 04/25/07 11:58pm

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dirtyman2005 said:

You can tell just from the interviews she still loves Michael and has a good personality.

it was the people surrounding MJ that prevented them from getting closer.

We all know how MJ was surrounded by people with nothing but their own interests, and even to this day still does.

He should have used his own mind and just married, instead of faffing about and listening to his management teams.

Its been 20 years and she still talks about him which shows she still wants him.
Shows you how devoted she is.

Maybe if MJ had married her then, he might not have got taken all the surgeries further. MJ during Bad looked fine, and he should have got married then to her.

If he had married Tatiana, he would have a beautiful wife, would have a normal family life and none of this bullshit drama that we have today.

And he wouldn't have had to go to Debbie rowe or some other anonymous donor.

What a pity!

Tatiana was and still is the bomb!
Nearing 40, still looks amazing!

Yes we all know its more than looks which matter, but Tatiana seemed to have more than that,

anyone seen the video of her on youtube crying after the Bad tour performance, she was overwhelmed by it and genuine.

Thats not a person with a bad personality! If anything, it shows an innocent and devoted person!

MJ was lead the wrong way! Those damn bastards!

You saw the way he talked in the Bashir documentary of how badly he wanted to have children.

He made a big mistake, he should have just married Tatiana and all would have been solved!

Why take Debbie Rowe over Tatiana??!!

Its mind boggling, it truly is !

And i wonder who is the mother of the third child "Blanket".

Who knows who she is ??

She might be worse than Debbie Rowe!
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Don´t forget that he choose Lisa Marie over her, not Debbie. I think after the divorce with LMP he felt hopeless that she was his last chance to have kids. And when Debbie offered to give him that, he went for it. She´s also very in love and devoted and he knew she loves him and would do anything to be with him. If offering him to have his babies was enough to get him into bed, she went for it. She knew he´d do anything to have kids. That´s what I get from Debbie interviews.
But yeah, Tatiana is sweet. They would have made a beautiful couple.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #49 posted 04/26/07 1:20am

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JasonStar said:

DarlingDiana said:



As much as I love MJ and you DarlingDiana, I'm sure you know
He fired her off the tour, soon after this kiss happened. confused


Actually, it was Michael's team of lawyers and business management that fired Tatiana (despite that the kissing idea was well supported by Katherine Jackson [Michael's mother BTW] in an attempt to kill the gay rumors).
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Reply #50 posted 04/26/07 1:23am

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krayzie said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjNgx8xe3Nw

Do you think she's still in love ?


BTW, I'm sure she go over it by the mid 90's. But if she's still single and looking this hot(!!!), she needs to hook up with Prince over at 3121. cool
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Reply #51 posted 04/26/07 1:26am

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lilgish said:

Man, Fuck Michael. Bitch ass, he didn't do shit with that dime piece. My man Prince woulda did his thing. Micheal is GAY, just a get man already.
[Edited 4/21/07 22:22pm]


nod You know, if Tatiana is still single, she might have a fair shot at being wife #3 for Prince. Even at an older age, she's still hot.
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Reply #52 posted 04/26/07 1:28am

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Cinnamon234 said:

There was no real relationship there-just some flirting that was all. They would have looked so cute together but anyway after the night Tatiana got kicked off the tour by MJ's manager Frank Dileo, that was the last she ever saw of Michael.


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Reply #53 posted 04/26/07 1:32am

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Krystal666 said:

bboy87 said:


Neither do I eek .....anyway, I did hear that she had something with Prince according to her book


My God, that man got with every model in the '80s no matter how famous or obscure they were didn't he? He left no stone unturned huh? Where did he find the time????? lol


Quickie?!?.....lurking
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Reply #54 posted 04/26/07 1:51am

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http://www.tatiana.web-in...862452.htm

The website to place an order for the autobiography.
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Reply #55 posted 04/26/07 3:51am

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She's still beautiful.
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Reply #56 posted 04/26/07 3:58am

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TonyVanDam said:

http://www.tatiana.web-international-inc.com/catalog/item/1405825/862452.htm

The website to place an order for the autobiography.


hmmm I'm curious about that book.Is there a place where I can read excerpts from it?
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Reply #57 posted 04/26/07 1:16pm

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SoulAlive said:

TonyVanDam said:

http://www.tatiana.web-international-inc.com/catalog/item/1405825/862452.htm

The website to place an order for the autobiography.


hmmm I'm curious about that book.Is there a place where I can read excerpts from it?

Yes, on Amazon.com.
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Reply #58 posted 04/26/07 3:52pm

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MikeMatronik said:

Prince is gayer

Um...have you seen Mike's Diana Ross impersonation? It doesn't get more gay than that! razz
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Reply #59 posted 04/26/07 3:59pm

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smoothoperator said:

SoulAlive said:




I agree!!! Mike was a fool to let her get away!


She might be smoking hot, but what if he didn't like her personality- wise? There's more to a person than looks, ya know...

I agree...she seems kind of desperate. That's not attractive.

And, besides, she has a long torso.
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