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Thread started 04/24/07 4:15pm

jillybean

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Somebody... sell me on Sonic Youth

I know I probably should, but I just don't get 'em.

Thanks.
"She made me glad to be a man"
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Reply #1 posted 04/24/07 4:37pm

Anx

this is just MY opinion, and i'm sure you'll get some totally different takes that will be just as (if not WAY MORE) valid, but...

start with GOO.

it's a fun, goofy, melodic, energetic pop album. it's a good intro. you get an idea of what their noisier side is all about, and at the same time you just get to listen to them having fun and making what they thought at the time was a "top 40" album.

if you like that, you'll probably like DIRTY. it's still poppier than most of their stuff, but this one's a little angrier and more political. still very melodic, very much something you can jump on your bed and throw tantrums to.

beyond these two albums, it gets a little weird.

you can go forward and check out their later albums, which i think get more and more complex and arty with each release (at least for a while, with albums like A THOUSAND LEAVES and some of their indie-release SYR projects), though they came back around with their last couple of albums, SONIC NURSE and RATHER RIPPED, which bring them back to making more traditional pop/rock songs, but in a slightly more mature vein than GOO or DIRTY.

OR, you can go backwards and check out stuff like DAYDREAM NATION (many SY fans favorite album), EVOL, SISTER and the like. these are a lot more noisy, uncompromising, and at times really super difficult to get into. but there are gems tucked in every one of their albums, and when you unlock those gems, they infect the sound of everything else and you start to appreciate and enjoy pretty much everything else.

and i don't want to underplay DAYDREAM NATION. it's not my favorite SY album, but it's a good one. in my opinion it's the "1999" to SY's "purple rain"...and of course, a lot of prince fans prefer the earlier to the latter, with good reason. shrug

also, you should check out THE WHITEY ALBUM by sonic youth's fake sister band CICCONE YOUTH. it's very silly, and has some seriously goofy madonna covers. plus you get to hear kim gordon doing the most smacked-out karaoke ever, to the tune of "addicted to love". good stuff. lol

hope that helped just a little. redface
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Reply #2 posted 04/24/07 4:51pm

Anx

oh, and i didn't mean to be all pop-heavy in my approach and recommendations...if you wanna go a more obtuse route, i'd start with A THOUSAND LEAVES, which i think is actually quite a beautiful album, and whether it's true or not, has kim gordon's name written all over it.

and for heaven's sake, SEE THEM LIVE. nothing beats hearing their beautiful noise when they're making it right in front of you. and for my money, thurston moore is every bit as engaging a live guitarist as prince. he loses himself in his playing and you really do feel it from the audience. bow
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Reply #3 posted 04/24/07 5:42pm

Ace

Kim Gordon was really fuckable, back in the day. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 04/24/07 5:43pm

Ace

...Oh! And it's good shit for knockin' (dirty) boots. boff
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Reply #5 posted 04/24/07 6:16pm

Brendan

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Anx said:

this is just MY opinion, and i'm sure you'll get some totally different takes that will be just as (if not WAY MORE) valid, but...

start with GOO.

it's a fun, goofy, melodic, energetic pop album. it's a good intro. you get an idea of what their noisier side is all about, and at the same time you just get to listen to them having fun and making what they thought at the time was a "top 40" album.

if you like that, you'll probably like DIRTY. it's still poppier than most of their stuff, but this one's a little angrier and more political. still very melodic, very much something you can jump on your bed and throw tantrums to.

beyond these two albums, it gets a little weird.

you can go forward and check out their later albums, which i think get more and more complex and arty with each release (at least for a while, with albums like A THOUSAND LEAVES and some of their indie-release SYR projects), though they came back around with their last couple of albums, SONIC NURSE and RATHER RIPPED, which bring them back to making more traditional pop/rock songs, but in a slightly more mature vein than GOO or DIRTY.

OR, you can go backwards and check out stuff like DAYDREAM NATION (many SY fans favorite album), EVOL, SISTER and the like. these are a lot more noisy, uncompromising, and at times really super difficult to get into. but there are gems tucked in every one of their albums, and when you unlock those gems, they infect the sound of everything else and you start to appreciate and enjoy pretty much everything else.

and i don't want to underplay DAYDREAM NATION. it's not my favorite SY album, but it's a good one. in my opinion it's the "1999" to SY's "purple rain"...and of course, a lot of prince fans prefer the earlier to the latter, with good reason. shrug

also, you should check out THE WHITEY ALBUM by sonic youth's fake sister band CICCONE YOUTH. it's very silly, and has some seriously goofy madonna covers. plus you get to hear kim gordon doing the most smacked-out karaoke ever, to the tune of "addicted to love". good stuff. lol

hope that helped just a little. redface


Now that's what I call a complete answer!

Got damn.

I feel like I should leave something in the offering plate. wink
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Reply #6 posted 04/24/07 6:21pm

MendesCity

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A Thousand Leaves thumbs up!

My favorite, it's just stinkin' gorgeous noise.
[Edited 4/24/07 18:22pm]
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Reply #7 posted 04/24/07 6:42pm

Anx

Brendan said:



Now that's what I call a complete answer!

Got damn.

I feel like I should leave something in the offering plate. wink



redface





geek
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Reply #8 posted 04/24/07 6:48pm

eleven

If you listen to "Swimsuit Issue" or "Drunk Butterfly" and don't instantly build an alter to Kim Gordon, then I don't know what to tell ya. bow
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Reply #9 posted 04/24/07 6:57pm

Anx

eleven said:

If you listen to "Swimsuit Issue" or "Drunk Butterfly" and don't instantly build an alter to Kim Gordon, then I don't know what to tell ya. bow


she had me at that cruddy lo fi video for "my friend goo", where she's go go dancing in a silver cat suit with a turntable strapped around her waist. love
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Reply #10 posted 04/24/07 7:37pm

lazycrockett

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I stopped listening after Evol and Sister.
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #11 posted 04/24/07 7:40pm

Ace

Anx said:

she had me at that cruddy lo fi video for "my friend goo", where she's go go dancing in a silver cat suit with a turntable strapped around her waist. love

Never saw that. Is it online somewhere?

P.S. Did you know the clip for "Disappearer" was shot in T.O.?
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Reply #12 posted 04/24/07 7:44pm

Anx

Ace said:

Anx said:

she had me at that cruddy lo fi video for "my friend goo", where she's go go dancing in a silver cat suit with a turntable strapped around her waist. love

Never saw that. Is it online somewhere?

P.S. Did you know the clip for "Disappearer" was shot in T.O.?


it's on the video anthology DVD with all the other goo videos - they made a video for every song from the album.

what's T.O.? boxed
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Reply #13 posted 04/24/07 7:47pm

Ace

Anx said:

what's T.O.? boxed

Toronto. Kim also did some university here.
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Reply #14 posted 04/24/07 7:48pm

Anx

Ace said:

Anx said:

what's T.O.? boxed

Toronto. Kim also did some university here.


huh. did not know that. either factoid. i just learned tina weymouth grew up in iceland, now this. go know!
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Reply #15 posted 04/24/07 7:48pm

thekidsgirl

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Stumbling into this thread has made me interested in Sonic Youth! lol
I think I'll check 'em out too
If you will, so will I
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Reply #16 posted 04/24/07 7:50pm

Anx

thekidsgirl said:

Stumbling into this thread has made me interested in Sonic Youth! lol
I think I'll check 'em out too


go with the GOO! nod
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Reply #17 posted 04/24/07 7:50pm

lilgish

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jillybean said:

I just don't get 'em.

join the club.
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Reply #18 posted 04/24/07 7:53pm

Ace

Anx said:

Ace said:


Toronto. Kim also did some university here.


huh. did not know that. either factoid. i just learned tina weymouth grew up in iceland, now this. go know!

lol

she initially attended York University in Toronto. While at York, Gordon studied with George Manupelli, the underground filmmaker/artist who founded the Ann Arbor Film Festival in 1963, and she formed her first band with classmates as an art project for one of his courses.[12] Gordon had dated musicians throughout her adolescence, and had flown up to San Francisco to see such groups as Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, and Moby Grape at the Fillmore with friends she had met in Hong Kong, but she says it took her a long time to figure out that she wanted to be able to play the music.[13] The unnamed York group was a noise band composed of Gordon, percussionist William Winant, and two Chilean guitarists, and after a few campus gigs they performed at the Ann Arbor Film Festival, where the plug was pulled on them mid-set.[14]
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Reply #19 posted 04/24/07 7:54pm

Anx

Ace said:[quote]

Anx said:


lol

she initially attended York University in Toronto. While at York, Gordon studied with George Manupelli, the underground filmmaker/artist who founded the Ann Arbor Film Festival in 1963, and she formed her first band with classmates as an art project for one of his courses.[12] Gordon had dated musicians throughout her adolescence, and had flown up to San Francisco to see such groups as Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, and Moby Grape at the Fillmore with friends she had met in Hong Kong, but she says it took her a long time to figure out that she wanted to be able to play the music.[13] The unnamed York group was a noise band composed of Gordon, percussionist William Winant, and two Chilean guitarists, and after a few campus gigs they performed at the Ann Arbor Film Festival, where the plug was pulled on them mid-set.[14]


i knew she was old, but DAMN eek
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Reply #20 posted 04/24/07 8:07pm

thekidsgirl

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Anx said:

thekidsgirl said:

Stumbling into this thread has made me interested in Sonic Youth! lol
I think I'll check 'em out too


go with the GOO! nod


I was leaning more towards Dirty based on your initial review. I like the 'poppier, but more angry' thing cool
If you will, so will I
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Reply #21 posted 04/24/07 8:13pm

HamsterHuey

I got hipped to them by Abierman, who then dragged me to a concert of theirs last year; one of the best concerts of that year.
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Reply #22 posted 04/24/07 9:18pm

CinisterCee

The Diamond Cee
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Reply #23 posted 04/25/07 3:36am

Anx

CinisterCee said:

The Diamond Cee


i'd love to hear the version beck does of that song on kazoo. lol
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