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Anx said: the genre in and of itself should not be banned (there IS actually a lot of good, intelligent hip-hop...it just doesn't get radio play), though i think some quality control is certainly in order. i think this is a step in the right direction, but if it's too heavy-handed, it's just gonna come off as good ol' censorship and that always makes the censored material that much more cool to kids, which kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
[Edited 4/20/07 10:37am] it seems too reactionary to me. yes it would have been better to use some kind of quality-control process. i'm more cynical about these kinds of bans anyway. sooner or later, all that stuff will be back on the air. just like you say, the kids are gonna want to hear it and sooner or later it'll find its way back on the air. the stations will say it's their way of reconnecting with the streets.  | |
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NDRU said: That's stupid. It's just as bad as when they tried to say rock & roll was the devil's music.
I've heard positive hip hop. I've heard Christian hip hop. The problem isn't the genre, it's the terrible superstars of the genre, and the horrible trends. Don't show booty videos, don't glamorize thugging & drugs, but don't ban entire genres of music. Exactly. If they want to punish Snoop Dogg, then most Snoop Dogg songs should be ban. But don't ban Dead Prez in the process. They're positive. Play their songs for a change. | |
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Milty said: Anx said:
the genre in and of itself should not be banned (there IS actually a lot of good, intelligent hip-hop...it just doesn't get radio play), though i think some quality control is certainly in order. i think this is a step in the right direction, but if it's too heavy-handed, it's just gonna come off as good ol' censorship and that always makes the censored material that much more cool to kids, which kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
it seems too reactionary to me. yes it would have been better to use some kind of quality-control process. i'm more cynical about these kinds of bans anyway. sooner or later, all that stuff will be back on the air. just like you say, the kids are gonna want to hear it and sooner or later it'll find its way back on the air. the stations will say it's their way of reconnecting with the streets. While I am pleased that this station is looking to change its playlist to remove the really offensive hip-hop, I think it's too much of a blanket move to remove all hip-hop from the station. They should be playing artists like Common, Kanye West, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Rhymefest, Lupe Fiasco, and The Roots, as well as good R&B artists. But what they should have done was announce that they would be reviewing their playlists for offensive artists and gradually phase out the offensive artists with good hip-hop so that listeners would not notice any difference (except that these artists kick ass). What worries me now is that listemers may perceive a drastic shift in the playlist and bolt from the station in droves, which would either cause them to bring back the crappy hip-hop just to save their ad dollars or force them to change their format to country or talk radio due to declining ratings.  | |
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 this is a step in the right direction! | |
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wow. And so it continues. It is amazing how disconnected some people are. What are they in business for? If it is to make money, they had better reevaluate their playlist. You get sponsors because you have listeners. I am hoping that they just mean to replace negative rap with positive rap. That would be just what we have been shouting for.
Like it or not, Rap is speaking for a lot of people. I have cousins that I ride with in Mississiippi. Their financial and social situation is dire. I am not saying that the station should broadcast garbage, but if they start playing strictly watered down R&B, they will soon be out of a job. since Run & Them were saying "Here we go" | |
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vainandy said: It might as well be the case. Those old buzzards back then didn't have any rhythm and didn't want any on the radio. Shit hop artists have even less rhythm than those old buzzards had back then and are making today's old buzzards rich that probably listen to classical music themselves. The whole rhythmless group deserve each other. . . [Edited 4/20/07 18:05pm] I just wonder if it wasn't so much the rhythm as which people created that rhythm that scared old white men to see their kids dancing to.My Legacy
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pfunkpilot said: wow. And so it continues. It is amazing how disconnected some people are. What are they in business for? If it is to make money, they had better reevaluate their playlist. You get sponsors because you have listeners. I am hoping that they just mean to replace negative rap with positive rap. That would be just what we have been shouting for.
Like it or not, Rap is speaking for a lot of people. I have cousins that I ride with in Mississiippi. Their financial and social situation is dire. I am not saying that the station should broadcast garbage, but if they start playing strictly watered down R&B, they will soon be out of a job. But if their financial situation is dire, then how could they be a market worth catering to, if they can't support the radio station's advertisers? | |
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728huey said: Milty said:
Anx said:
it seems too reactionary to me. yes it would have been better to use some kind of quality-control process. i'm more cynical about these kinds of bans anyway. sooner or later, all that stuff will be back on the air. just like you say, the kids are gonna want to hear it and sooner or later it'll find its way back on the air. the stations will say it's their way of reconnecting with the streets. While I am pleased that this station is looking to change its playlist to remove the really offensive hip-hop, I think it's too much of a blanket move to remove all hip-hop from the station. They should be playing artists like Common, Kanye West, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Rhymefest, Lupe Fiasco, and The Roots, as well as good R&B artists. But what they should have done was announce that they would be reviewing their playlists for offensive artists and gradually phase out the offensive artists with good hip-hop so that listeners would not notice any difference (except that these artists kick ass). What worries me now is that listemers may perceive a drastic shift in the playlist and bolt from the station in droves, which would either cause them to bring back the crappy hip-hop just to save their ad dollars or force them to change their format to country or talk radio due to declining ratings. exactly my point, sorta kinda. i suspect they'll do what i suggested or they will bring back the crappy hip hop along the llines that you have stated. who kows....maybe they will adgere to their new policy. we'll see. maybe it could be a new shift in radio that other stations will adopt. i suppose that would be a good thing. | |
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But if their financial situation is dire, then how could they be a market worth catering to, if they can't support the radio station's advertisers?[/quote] Good point Cee. By selling liquor and payday loans. People that are uneducated about finances are being taken for a ride these days at historical levels. Regardless of who you cater to in MS, the reality is that the per capita income is low. Obviously, there is money to made by advertisers, since there is commercial radio there. I just don't think the answer is to ban rap, but to offer more positive rap & other music. After a hard day, Lost Without You just isn't relating to a lot of people. since Run & Them were saying "Here we go" | |
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wonder505 said: bboy87 said: Could you imagine a radio station that played Talib Kweli, Common, Mos Def, Nas, K-Os, Lupe Fiaso, Gym Class Heroes, The Roots and other artists along with GOOD R&B ALL THE TIME?! That would Heaven
that would be heavan. I'm sorry but even the R&B stations of today play the same ole tired shit over and over. If I hear another Freddie Jackson song played I'm gonna implode. The other day I almost crashed my car because for once the radio took a side step and played Love Is the Message (not the original version but the club hit version with the Spanish countdown break in it) followed by an extended version of the Bottle. Then it dawned on me, in the history of R&B and hip hop, there are sooooo many kick as jams, both old and new, but they play the same shit over and over and over. yes indeed! and add some old school rap. nipsy | |
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